Met a business owner in manufacturing yesterday

[sniper7]

So did Obama start this EPA within the last 4 years? Rhetorical question and I'm not sticking up for Obama, just trying to shed some light on how the problem is bigger than who we elect for president every 4yrs.

No he didn't start the EPA or come up with the notion of regulation, but his policies have put on further regulations, devalued the dollar to make it buying power much worse, increased entitlement programs which only take away from the private sector even more.

Just as the problems didn't become instantaneous, the solution is not going to be either.

[JohnTRourke]

So did Obama start this EPA within the last 4 years? Rhetorical question and I'm not sticking up for Obama, just trying to shed some light on how the problem is bigger than who we elect for president every 4yrs.

exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the bureaucrats govern now.

[earplug]

The people trying to rebuild after the Waldo Canyon fire are suffering the typical problems that slow down and cause friction in today's business.
Uncertain regulations and policy. Uncertain future of the value on completed homes.
The HOA and City have not been quick to change or address problems.
The risk reward concept is not working.

[Jer]

No he didn't start the EPA or come up with the notion of regulation, but his policies have put on further regulations, devalued the dollar to make it buying power much worse, increased entitlement programs which only take away from the private sector even more.

Just as the problems didn't become instantaneous, the solution is not going to be either.

Of Romney does win he won't do a damn thing about entitlements. He talks a tough game about it but when his advisers get in his ear about how many voters that 47% is he will change his tune quickly. Face it, this path we're headed down is a one-way path and neither the D's or the R's give half a shit about getting off of the trail. The path to their own personal prosperity is SO much easier than actually trying to serve the people. When you get right down to it look at who the major contributors to the candidate's campaign fund are and you will see who will be running the country for the next 4yrs. It's that simple.

The people trying to rebuild after the Waldo Canyon fire are suffering the typical problems that slow down and cause friction in today's business.
Uncertain regulations and policy. Uncertain future of the value on completed homes.
The HOA and City have not been quick to change or address problems.
The risk reward concept is not working.

I'm sorry but I don't draw a correlation between this and this conversation.

[roberth]

Of Romney does win he won't do a damn thing about entitlements. He talks a tough game about it but when his advisers get in his ear about how many voters that 47% is he will change his tune quickly. Face it, this path we're headed down is a one-way path and neither the D's or the R's give half a shit about getting off of the trail. The path to their own personal prosperity is SO much easier than actually trying to serve the people. When you get right down to it look at who the major contributors to the candidate's campaign fund are and you will see who will be running the country for the next 4yrs. It's that simple.

I asked a question in a different thread about a plan to pay down the 16 trillion in debt we've accrued.

I asked another question in the same thread about paying for the federal governments financial promise to social security, medicare, and medicaid.

There is a "sort of" plan for the first, the second one is completely unfunded and there is no source for that kind of money. The baby boomers are entering that period of their lives when their medical costs really start to climb.

[ChunkyMonkey]

I asked a question in a different thread about a plan to pay down the 16 trillion in debt we've accrued.

I asked another question in the same thread about paying for the federal governments financial promise to social security, medicare, and medicaid.

There is a "sort of" plan for the first, the second one is completely unfunded and there is no source for that kind of money. The baby boomers are entering that period of their lives when their medical costs really start to climb.

... and our obligation is larger in proportion compare to post WWI Germany.

[roberth]

Yes it is ENORMOUS.

We think Greece is a mess with all their riots and crap, theirs is a picnic compared to "austerity" here.

[Jer]

I asked a question in a different thread about a plan to pay down the 16 trillion in debt we've accrued.

I asked another question in the same thread about paying for the federal governments financial promise to social security, medicare, and medicaid.

There is a "sort of" plan for the first, the second one is completely unfunded and there is no source for that kind of money. The baby boomers are entering that period of their lives when their medical costs really start to climb.

If you're talking about Paul 'the economic genius with a bachelor's degree in political science and economics' Ryan's plan it's smoke and mirrors and even given that much leeway it still makes NO fiscal sense. This is their best plan? There's a reason they don't ever want to get into specifics on it when pressed on the topic. We're fucked.

[Great-Kazoo]

I have no idea what qualifies as "over-regulated", but steel prices seem to be declining
http://www.steelonthenet.com/price_info.html

While it may appear that way on paper, it's a different story at the pump. I have seen little if any decline in metal prices when buying. Of course i am a 1 man buyer not a med size business where a $0.04 drop adds up quickly.

[roberth]

If you're talking about Paul 'the economic genius with a bachelor's degree in political science and economics' Ryan's plan it's smoke and mirrors and even given that much leeway it still makes NO fiscal sense. This is their best plan? There's a reason they don't ever want to get into specifics on it when pressed on the topic. We're fucked.

I think the first thing that has to happen is for business to become comfortable doing business. Right now business is running scared, they are scared about unforseen costs in obamacare, over-regulation, onerous taxation, and being punished for success. When businesses are scared they stop hiring and they start cutting costs and employees.

Another reason is when we start cutting government spending those people need jobs in the private sector and the private sector has to be ready to hire them. That will only happen if business is comfortable.

When I'm talking about business here I'm talking about all business, but mostly small businesses which IIRC employ 75% of the workers in this country.