The Disunited States Of America

[FastMan]

Sitting here sipping my muscat, late in the evening, and fantasizing. Care to join me?

Perhaps it's time to split the Country into to independent nations: The United Red States of America, and the United Blue States of America. The country is going down the tube, and the Democrats and Republicans have very different ideas on how to fix it. Let's let them each have free reign at giving their ideas a go.

Here's how it will work. Each State gets to vote on which Nation it would like to be a member of. Here's a map of how it generally might break down, by virtue of the 2008 presidential results:



Note, after Obama's dismal first four years, a couple blues may decide to go Red.

Some of the details:

- After the split, all red states send all Democrat/liberal politicians packing. Blue states do the same with their Republicans/conservatives.

- Once the vote is done, it's done. No second chances down the road. If you vote to be blue, you're a member of the Blue Nation forever more.

- Split the current national debt between the red and blue nations, by a percentage equivalent to the population of each.

- Red nation gets the bulk of the Military. Blue nation doesn't want it anyway.

- People shall not be trapped by the preference of the majority of the people in the state they happen to reside in. They can move. Blue minded folk can move to a blue nation state, and red minded folk to a red state.

- Each nation is free to create it's own individual constitution and bill of rights.

- Wall Street is free to load up it's equipment and people, and move out of New York. But the kids occupying it must stay.

- Blue Nation gets to keep Obama care.

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There, I've given you a start on some of the details. Go ahead and fill in some of your own ideas on them.

Go ahead, too, and start structuring how you'd want the nation you'd choose to join to look. What would you want to change in your nation about what is happening in the country now?

How would you structure the constitution of YOUR nation?

If Colorado remained blue, what would you do?

What do you see in your crystal ball, 20 years after the split?

[Irving]

What if we broke it down into 50 separate areas that could govern themselves...

[Teufelhund]

I'm only sipping Stella Artois tonight, but I'll play.

First, where do the Libertarians go? I think I'd rather go with the red States than the blue, given only two options (do with that what you will, you cheeky Republican bastards), but I wonder how long before we have to divide again because I don't agree with you wanting to shoot Californians for trying to cross into Arizona.

Next, I propose that nominees for election to appointed offices of the new national government of the red states (Oooooo that sounds a little McCarthy-esque right there) battle it out in a tournament-style debate, where each county submits its nominee (by democratic election) to debate the nominees from other counties from the State, then the State winners debate on the National stage, etc. until there is one elected official left standing (metaphorically, of course).

Lastly, can we give them everything East and North of Mississippi so we can have Colorado?

I like all your other ideas. We actually had a good thread going on this topic a couple months ago, but it has been archived to the annals of pages which are out of sight, for they are not the first page.

[Teufelhund]

Damn, I like Irving's idea even better. Touche, good sir.

[00tec]

I kinda like this map

[xring]

What if we broke it down into 50 separate areas that could govern themselves...

Yea why do we have to join the democrips or the rebloodlicans?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52PtEMFbu3Q

[HoneyBadger]

What if we broke it down into 50 separate areas that could govern themselves...

It's funny cuz... Oh wait. It's not funny. It breaks my heart.

This would probably work out okay:

I kinda like this map

[xring]

I kinda like this map

Damn I hate the darkness in the winter in Alaska but oh well

[ronaldrwl]

I kinda like this map

What country is the "Azatlan DMZ"?

[00tec]

What country is the "Azatlan DMZ"?

Demilitarised zone. In other words, keep your cartels south of that line, because if you are in that zone and armed, you may find out what a Predator is capable of.