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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    That was the big discussion after Columbine.
    sorry I wasnt on all weekend... but yeah, I remember that being a BIG topic of discussion after Columbine..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad4000 View Post
    sorry I wasnt on all weekend... but yeah, I remember that being a BIG topic of discussion after Columbine..
    I have some friends that attended Columbine in those days- they said what people did to Dylan and Eric was really horrible, driving by throwing bottles (glass) at them, spraying them with soda, and all kinds of bullying. One girl said to me afterward something like "While it's wrong the way they reacted, no one can really be surprised Dylan and Eric lashed out, the way they were treated. Not saying anyone deserved to die, but those bullies did deserve to be punished." When those entrusted to preserve order and rule of law fail, oftentimes some have to take that responsibility into their own hands. NOTE: I am NOT saying go out and kill these people like in Columbine, but I was the victim of bullying in HS and every avenue I tried to take to get it to stop led to a dead end. I was left with almost no options... So I waited for the asshole bully to graduate. It begs the question, when people stop doing the right thing, what do the good, fair and decent people do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    I have some friends that attended Columbine in those days- they said what people did to Dylan and Eric was really horrible, driving by throwing bottles (glass) at them, spraying them with soda, and all kinds of bullying. One girl said to me afterward something like "While it's wrong the way they reacted, no one can really be surprised Dylan and Eric lashed out, the way they were treated. Not saying anyone deserved to die, but those bullies did deserve to be punished." When those entrusted to preserve order and rule of law fail, oftentimes some have to take that responsibility into their own hands. NOTE: I am NOT saying go out and kill these people like in Columbine, but I was the victim of bullying in HS and every avenue I tried to take to get it to stop led to a dead end. I was left with almost no options... So I waited for the asshole bully to graduate. It begs the question, when people stop doing the right thing, what do the good, fair and decent people do?
    totally agree.. it's a terrifying question..

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    Innocent kids who draw guns on paper, or "play Army" or "cowboys and Indians" on the playground, or chew a Pop-Tart into "the shape of a gun", or wear an NRA t-shirt, etc., or bring an empty .22 case to school, or a target to show off.....they get crucified every day by "zero tolerance" policies in schools all around the country.

    But bullies? - the schools and society look the other way. And if they're athletes, they may even get celebrated for their awesome toughness.

    Nah, no double standards here folks - move along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    Innocent kids who draw guns on paper, or "play Army" or "cowboys and Indians" on the playground, or chew a Pop-Tart into "the shape of a gun", or wear an NRA t-shirt, etc., or bring an empty .22 case to school, or a target to show off.....they get crucified every day by "zero tolerance" policies in schools all around the country.

    But bullies? - the schools and society look the other way. And if they're athletes, they may even get celebrated for their awesome toughness.

    Nah, no double standards here folks - move along.
    seriously f-ed up.. I was telling a buddy about this story, and he was saying that when he was in HS that the baseball team used to have somebody tuck their junk back, and put the freshmans faces in it... said one of the upper classman tried to have him do it, and he hit the kid in the face with a metal cleat lol... but he said a whole bunch of his buddies were forced to put their faces in some dudes junk...... like wtf???????? maybe I lived a shelter life.... I dunno..... hazing yes, bullying, etc... but not this shit

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    Didn't read all the posts...
    Did wrestling and soccer from a young age through college.
    Never experienced a hazing incident and certainly no Sandusky BS
    Sad times for kids, and pathetic reactions by parents, based on the media story.

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    ^^ my brother wrestled, never anything like this... this fuckin world man..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad4000 View Post
    ^^ my brother wrestled, never anything like this... this fuckin world man..
    I wrestled and played football- the worst hazing we ever got (coach endorsed) was end of practice, made to run through the varsity drills and get laid out. That's it.
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    I graduated HS in 1974, so that was a different era. In HS, the boys were only allowed to swim naked in the school pool. No trunks, no shorts, only butt-ass naked. I don't know that I'd consider it "hazing", but I damn sure considered it strange then, and still do. The reasoning was that "fibers and strings from trunks or shorts will clog the pool filters", which was pure horseshit IMO. What, little curly hairs don't clog filters? And the girls used the same pool (not at the same time) but THEY got to use swimsuits.

    I think our friggin' gym coach just liked naked boys. Wet, glistening, naked boys. He damn sure liked to line up the horseplayers along the edge of the pool and swat their wet bare asses with his paddle and knock 'em back in the water. I saw that shit once and figured good behavior in the pool was mandatory. No swats on my fat ass, thank you.

    I've always wondered if the naked swimming thing was normal, I sure as hell didn't think so. But my brothers were all a lot older than me and they said it was that way for them too.
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    ^^ fuckin weird. I would like to think theres no chance of that happening these days, but considering the article.. who knows...

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