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  • Fuck the DEA. Drugs shouldn't be of any interest to the feds.

    14 16.67%
  • States' rights rule, DEA should stay out of legalized states.

    48 57.14%
  • States rights aside, it's still federally illegal. DEA is welcome here too

    17 20.24%
  • Fuck the dopers, the drug war is where it's at.

    5 5.95%
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    A FUN TITLE asmo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklabel View Post
    I concur.
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    http://www.examiner.com/article/obam...ash-and-colo-1

    I think the raids and seizures have been their intent all along. They will continue to limit our freedoms and remove rights where ever they can, and allowing pot legalization to move forward doesn't fit into that plan. Notice in this article how they talk out both sides of their mouth.
    I will not abide this abomination. (1224)

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    The interesting uninteded consiquence of liberals supporting MJ is that it sets the ground for conservative nulification of federal laws that are over reaching. This will be intersting to see what happens. I am all for states rights. The Fed needs to be smaller and more limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strm_trpr View Post
    The Fed needs to be smaller and more limited.
    Indeed, the way that it was designed in the Constitution.
    Liberals never met a slippery slope they didn't grease.
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    Depends, where were the shops set up? were they within 1000 feet of a school?

    Under Federal law the affected areas can include illegal federal drug sales on, or within one thousand feet of, real property comprising a public or private elementary, vocational, or secondary school or a public or private college, junior college, or university, or a playground, or housing facility owned by a public housing authority, or within 100 feet of a public or private youth center, public swimming pool, or video arcade facility.

    If yes, then the Fed was within their right, if not then they need to leave these places alone.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. --TJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    States rights aside, it's still federally illegal. DEA is welcome here too

    Until the states re-assert their 10th amendment rights federal law will take precedence over state law.
    This is exactly why I voted the way I did. I cannot get over the pushover state administrations we've had the past several years.... Montana and Arizona aside. While the states are failing to assert their own level of sovereignty, the liberal left is pushing their agenda further and further by dumbing down the population more by the day. While I firmly believe that states rights should and must trump federal ones, the fact that the states in general, aren't standing their ground on them makes me hope for an "example" that rekindles the need for states to hold steady on what their population has decided upon...regardless of which political slant. Maybe this will be it? I just want to see some damned spines in this country and don't see many anywhere.
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    Default DEA Raids Washington MJ dispensaries

    You guys don't remember obummers drug czar saying he'd go after them. Guess one person in his admin can be held to their word


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    I support legalization, but believe it has to be done at the federal level FIRST, then the individual states can decide if they want it legal there or not (yes, it should be the other way around, but the Federal laws are already in place and need to be overturned first).


    That said, the recreational pot people tend to be liberal Democrats so while I don't like the Federal government messing with the people, part of me still gets a kick out of watching people that are otherwise leftist, utopian statists get the guns of the Federal leviathan they created turned on themselves.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monky View Post
    You guys don't remember obummers drug czar saying he'd go after them. Guess one person in his admin can be held to their word


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    Yes I do. #12


    And Zundfolge, I don't think this level of enforcement or legislating should fall on the feds shoulders, which is why I say the DEA needs out of this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnhack View Post
    And Zundfolge, I don't think this level of enforcement or legislating should fall on the feds shoulders, which is why I say the DEA needs out of this issue.
    Oh, I agree. My point is that we now live in a post-constitutional America. We're no longer a "nation of laws" we're a "nation of men" and it is primarily because of the efforts of those on the left. Some of these same leftists are the people that own the pot shops so if we have to live in this lawless totalitarian state they helped create at least they get a little comeuppance.

    A little schadenfreude as we all slide into the abyss is the closest thing to "hope" I can muster these days.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

    "Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
    -Friedrich Nietzsche

    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
    -Penn Jillette

    A World Without Guns <- Great Read!

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