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    Default STOMP med bag contents v1.1

    I don't usually divulge specifics but I'm trying to help and turn over a new leaf and all that shit. I was reviewing my med bag tonight before class tomorrow so I'm sharing.

    Open to comments but if you're suggesting more gear it better be light and small or replace something in the bag. Clearly some of the items are specific to my family. Numbers in parenthesis indicate quantity


    Outside- 7.5” emt shears
    Inside front-
    (2) N95 flat pack masks
    Pro gone click it hand sanitizers in factory ziplock
    Zipper pull compass
    Resqme zipper pull
    Asherman chest seal
    Oral airway pack
    (2) h&h wound seals
    28F NPA with lube
    6mm cuffed et tube and 10cc syringe
    (4) quick clot 1st responder


    Outside front loops-
    Minisharpe
    Curved hemostats
    Bandage shears
    Long hemostats
    Short hemostats
    Aligator hemostats
    (3) pair gloves
    Strealmight stylus light in ziplock
    Life gear battery glow stick/flashlight/wistle
    (2) glow sticks
    Coreless roll of duct tape
    2” tape
    (2) 1” rolls of tape
    Small duct tape roll
    z pack combat gauze
    (2) rolled combat gauze
    (8) compressed gauze
    Energizer head lamp in ziplock
    Albuterol inhaler (prescribed to me)
    Tk-4
    Tk4-L
    (2) CAT
    EMS Field Guide BLS Version
    Write in the rain 3x5
    Klein 8” dikes
    Olaes 4” bandage
    Big cinch bandage
    (3) super combat cravat
    Adsafe cpr mask w/gloves in case


    Back personal pouch-
    Gloves
    (2) 3cc needles
    Fish Flox
    Betadine in dropper in ziplock
    Tweezerman very pointy tips
    Small screwdriver
    (2) rolls ½” tape
    #10 disposable scalpel
    #11 disposable scalpel
    14ga catheter needle
    (2) mre heaters
    Mre drink bag
    (3) superglue gel
    Baby powder 1 ½ oz
    Glasses repair screws
    Small half serrated pocket knife
    Disposable razor
    Peanut lighter
    (2) pair earplugs
    Mre spoon
    Baby soap 1oz in ziplock
    Spare batteries (2) aa (4) aaa (5) cr2032
    curved nail clippers


    IV pouch-
    (2) heavy black trash bags
    XL knee brace (this is mine, I occasionally have a trick knee issue)
    S ankle brace (this is hers, she has bad ankles and occasionally requires these)
    Actidose-aqua poison adsorbent in ziplock
    (2) 3” ace
    (2) 4” ace
    (2) contact solution/eyewash
    2” coflex


    Back lower-
    Water jel 2x6 dressing
    Water jel arm dressing
    Burn jel 4 oz in a ziplock
    (3) h&h compressed gauze
    Suction easy kit in factory ziplock
    BP cuff
    Stethoscope
    Bifocal safety glasses in case and cloth


    Back panel-
    Emergency blanket
    Sam splint generic
    Triangle bandage w 2 safety pins
    Large instant cold pack
    Adult C collar
    Child C collar
    Folding stretcher
    Boo boo kit


    Boo boo kit-
    (2) AB pad in gallon ziplock
    (2) tongue depressors
    (4) tampons
    (3) flosser pick things
    Emmory board
    Safety pins
    pack dental tools
    (5) cotton swabs
    (2) playtex wipes
    (9) hair ties
    (15) gas relief pills 125mg
    (16) caffeine pills 200mg
    (2) emergenC 1000mg
    (9) antiseptic wipes
    (5) single use antibiotic ointment
    (4) small hand warmers
    (9) alcohol prep pads
    Blistex
    (4) single use antibiotic with aloe
    (12) anti-diarrheal pills 2mg
    (4) prilosec otc 20.6mg
    (36) diphen 25mg (benydryl)
    (4) cold eze lozenges in small ziplock
    (6) soap towlettes
    (6) 3packs 1/4x3in
    (8) 2packs of 4x4 sponges in ziplock
    (10) Hydration mix
    (4) 3-0 silk sutures
    (4) 4-0 PGA sutures
    Small cold pack
    Moleskin
    Gloves
    (3) rolls tums
    Generic sam splint
    Floss
    Ear thermometer
    Aspirin
    Glucose tabs
    Bug spray pen .5oz
    Benadryl itch pen
    Antibiotic cream with pain relief .5 oz
    Adventure medical Dental medic kit in factory ziplock
    (4) wisps
    Small irrigation bulb
    Misc Band-Aids eye pads and mre TP in a dry bag (super ziplock)


    Pending additions:
    Water atleast a qt
    More duct tape
    More gloves
    Remove C collars
    More SAM splint
    IV's -Script item
    Epi -pen Script item
    O2 -script item.
    Bag balm
    Halo's when the H&H chest seals expire, ditch the asherman on expiration
    A better stethoscope when I can afford it
    Work gloves
    Mucinex
    zyrtec
    pulse ox

    A few insights
    Use quickclots and don't replace them unless with combat gauze
    Z pack combat gauze is vacuumed tight, rolls are puffy only buy z pack
    Z fold gauze could be worth the extra 25 cents
    If an item has only one use it's very important, most are chosen for multiple uses.
    Last edited by Wulf202; 10-28-2012 at 22:02. Reason: constantly updating and fixing typos

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    Fellow Medic nerd here, like what you have so far. Not a huge fan of the S.T.O.M.P. (any iteration) simply for its size, I rock an M9 bag now, sleeker and able to D-ring into a ruck sack for moving on foot.
    The things that should be considered for medical supplies is the overall intent of said item. Having worked as an EMT-I and deployed as a 68W, I know certain interventions are really only to buy time, that's the crux of emergency medicine.
    The biggest things that come to mind are tension pneumothorax interventious, such as 14ga needle and caths, or ashermans and H&H seals. If someone has a punctured lung, sealing the thoracic cavity is dandy, but you're not doing anything to fix the lung. The patient will need hi-flow O2 and positive-pressure ventillation, something you can't so with a backpack.
    I guess it can't hurt, just in case you feel like saving a life in a car-wreck, but if you're prepping for a "without rule of law" scenario, even tourniquets will be useless when people see how serious infections can ruin a weekend.
    These are just my opinions, anything you can do to combat fever or control bleeding are essential, get some good suture practice in now, it's pretty easy. Also, IVs are a must, ignore the expiration.
    Sorry, I'll stop rambling. Awesome kit, maybe I am just assuming it's for Z-day when it's not.

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    I don't know jack about med kits but that looks really good to me.

    What does a kit like that run? You guys could probably start a business building and selling nice kits like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docneuey View Post
    Fellow Medic nerd here, like what you have so far. Not a huge fan of the S.T.O.M.P. (any iteration) simply for its size, I rock an M9 bag now, sleeker and able to D-ring into a ruck sack for moving on foot.
    The things that should be considered for medical supplies is the overall intent of said item. Having worked as an EMT-I and deployed as a 68W, I know certain interventions are really only to buy time, that's the crux of emergency medicine.
    The biggest things that come to mind are tension pneumothorax interventious, such as 14ga needle and caths, or ashermans and H&H seals. If someone has a punctured lung, sealing the thoracic cavity is dandy, but you're not doing anything to fix the lung. The patient will need hi-flow O2 and positive-pressure ventillation, something you can't so with a backpack.
    I guess it can't hurt, just in case you feel like saving a life in a car-wreck, but if you're prepping for a "without rule of law" scenario, even tourniquets will be useless when people see how serious infections can ruin a weekend.
    These are just my opinions, anything you can do to combat fever or control bleeding are essential, get some good suture practice in now, it's pretty easy. Also, IVs are a must, ignore the expiration.
    Sorry, I'll stop rambling. Awesome kit, maybe I am just assuming it's for Z-day when it's not.
    General aw shit kit. The problem with o2/IV's is that I need a script. This is not intended as a portable hospital, I don't have the experience or training for that level. I have more options at home but when I do road trips or range time this comes with.

    I have smaller kits but this is the big one. Almost too big for most things, the stomp was cheap though.

    There is no way I can sufficiently prepare for medical needs on Z-day with my level of income.

    Trying to find a suture class so I can get good basics to start with.

    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    I don't know jack about med kits but that looks really good to me.

    What does a kit like that run? You guys could probably start a business building and selling nice kits like that.
    I pieced it together spending my gun budget every month, if I had to venture a guess I'd say $700 but that's probly low. CAT's are $25 ea, combat gauze around $50ea =`$200 right there. Some of it was gifts or I've had laying around for years. Still cheaper than a new rifle and it's more likely to save my ass than another gun.

    Cmilliard would be the person I'd talk to about getting a kit if you're interested

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    Very well thought out! Nice job. (PM sent)

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    -more TQs ( I carry at least 4 on my kit)
    -more chest seals
    -ziplocks (various sizes)
    -regular thermomoter (one that doesn't require batteries and can be used in infants/food/etc...)
    -sharpie markers
    -BVM
    -bottled water
    -cold compress
    -hand/foot warmers


    lose the ET tube & IV gear. If you cannot give O2 then you are not trained enough to intubate or stick someone; you'll do more damage than good not to mention the criminal suit to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    -more TQs ( I carry at least 4 on my kit)
    -more chest seals
    -ziplocks (various sizes)
    -regular thermomoter (one that doesn't require batteries and can be used in infants/food/etc...)
    -sharpie markers
    -BVM
    -bottled water
    -cold compress
    -hand/foot warmers


    lose the ET tube & IV gear. If you cannot give O2 then you are not trained enough to intubate or stick someone; you'll do more damage than good not to mention the criminal suit to follow.
    I have 4 tourniquets on the loop panel, a bp cuff farther back

    I have 3 chest seals in packaging that can also be used for a chest seal and duct tape, I can improvise probly 15 chest seals out of items in the kit, possibly more. I'll order a pair of HALO's next time I order med gear.

    There are more than a dozen ziplocks used as water proofing thru-out the kit, most are not mentioned. I've corrected this in the original list.

    Suggestions on a specific thermometer? I chose that one for general care, I have no infants. I'm avoiding anything glass due to the rough treatment this may receive.

    Have one sharpie in the kit in the loop panel and one in my left front pocket, intend to pick up a red or green mini one during x mas.

    BVM- please elaborate? They don't even teach to breath for the person anymore.

    Bottles break and leak, I'll be getting lifeboat pouches next time I place an order or park city water bladders when I can find them.

    there are 2 cold compresses already one large stored in the back panel outside of boo boo kit, one medium inside the boo boo kit.

    there are 4 hand/foot warmers in the boo boo kit and 2 mre meal heaters in the personals section.

    ET tube stays and the only IV gear is a 14ga cath needle for chest decompression which also stays. I've stated this before in another thread in response to the comments you have for these type of items, I believe it's better to have it and not need it. They are obviously a last resort. If you want further justification my shooting buddies include an EMT, an OR nurse, a CNA and lots of combat life savers. All have permission to use the items on me if I need it. You won't be able to change my mind on these items.

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    BVM as in valve mask I think.

    EDIT.. nevermind. Comprehension failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf202 View Post
    ET tube stays and the only IV gear is a 14ga cath needle for chest decompression which also stays. I've stated this before in another thread in response to the comments you have for these type of items, I believe it's better to have it and not need it. They are obviously a last resort. If you want further justification my shooting buddies include an EMT, an OR nurse, a CNA and lots of combat life savers. All have permission to use the items on me if I need it. You won't be able to change my mind on these items.
    Neither of them can or will use either of those items as they are both outside their scope of practice. Wasted space... You're carrying a lawsuit around with you everywhere that bag goes. As long as you are aware of the consequenses; it's your ass. I agree with doing anything to save a family member but people at the range are not your responsibility, especially as YOU are not a trained and licensed provider.

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    I would keep them in there, no harm in having them. I'm assuming that the kit isn't just for the shooting range, and could be part of this guys bug-out/in system.

    The same could be said about the inhaler. If you let someone else use it is that a huge liability? Yep. is it illegal? Yep. Have I ever done that? Yep. (knew the guy personally and knew he had asthma, not something I would do for average Joe, that's what ambulances are for) For that matter carrying a gun is like walking around with a lawsuit if used incorrectly, sometimes even when used correctly, but it could save someone's life. Risk vs. Reward and common sense play big parts here.

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