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It may not be working but we've got to keep trying. Rolling over and quitting now is not an option in my mind.Originally Posted by whitbaby
If you really thought it would not pass the house, you have not been paying attention. The Senate is a tougher sell.
Saying we "lost" is what they want. It is like when the stock market goes down and you say you lost 5%. No, you did not, because you did not take the money out yet. We have not lost unless it gets signed into law, and even then there are paths. Problem is too many people tossing rocks and not enough people actually involved. I am not bashing ANY COAR15 members. You all have been great. But, how many people are gun owners who have still done NOTHING? The answer is more than 99%!
I sent email and faxes to all of the Dems on the committees today, and have yet to see a reply from any one of them. Over a dozen people "liked" my post on Hick's facebook page. i noticed that 100% of the posts that I saw there concerning this issue are urging him to veto this shit...
Light a fire for a man, and he'll be warm for a day, light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life...
Discussion is an exchange of intelligence. Argument is an exchange of
ignorance. Ever found a liberal that you can have a discussion with?
Dear Senator,
Please oppose all bills which aim to restrict 2nd Amendment rights in our state of Colorado including:
HB13-1229: requiring background checks for all gun transactions; Judiciary & Appropriations
HB13-1226: banning concealed weapons on campuses; Education & Appropriations
HB13-1228: instituting a fee for gun buyers to cover the cost of the CBI to perform background checks; Finance & Appropriations
HB13-1224: limiting magazines to 15 rounds; Judiciary
My family, friends, and community are closely watching your actions and will vote accordingly in the next elections.
Sincerely,
bogie
U.S. Citizen
Colorado Resident
I've gotten two responses so far...
I am and will be a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment. I took an oath to uphold the constitution, and I take seriously and will stand by this I hope to hear more from you in the future. All gun bills still have to come before the Senate. Also, I am not towing a line with a party, As a veteran I actually believe what I say in this e-mail
Larry Crowder
State SenatorThank you for taking the time to write. We are swamped with emails right now, but yours is important to me and I try to read all of them, especially the shorter ones.
I will vote against any bill that infringes on the Second Amendment, including 1224, 1226, 1228 and 1229, and will support any bill that expands rights for law abiding gun owners.
I am very worried about the negative impacts of these bills to individual liberty, safety and jobs in Colorado. I cannot believe that we are even this close to passing them.
I want you to remember who has been pushing these bills that infringe upon our Second Amendment. No Republican will vote for any of these bills. These bills are supported only by Democrats; even the few Democrats who voted against them in the House voted to enable Democrat Leadership to ram these bills through.
Never forget that. Make sure that you hold them accountable in the next election cycle.
Senator Greg Brophy
I received replies from Republicans from my emails today. All total, from sending emails and faxes everyday, I think I've heard from 5 democrats total. I think sending them to everyone (dems and reps) helps to solidify the 'no' position and may even give them a confidence boost. It doesn't hurt and if they go into it knowing their constituents are for it then their arguments will be even stronger. So IMO it can only help.
Last edited by T.rexford; 02-19-2013 at 20:05.
The Denver Post ran an article today stating that Sen. Lois Tochtrop, D-Thornton and Sen. Cheri Jahn, D-Wheat Ridge are two democrats known for their support of gun rights and are uncommited to the bills. Full article: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...in-but-limited.
Keep up you emails, faxes, phone calls and mailings. Let Sen. Tochtrop and Jahn know where we stand.
When is the senate vote?
At this point, the 4 bills are assigned to committees and they are still working on the Senate bills. So it will likeley be 2 to 3 weeks before they schedule committee hearings. There are more bills written and some in writing realted to this issue, so there is some uncertainty what effect that may have. The Senators I spoke with today have told me they are getting slammed with emails, call and letters. A few of the Ds have engaged in meaningful dialog with people I know and myself. They have been open and repsectful on the phone, more so than in writing...take that for what it is worth. The Ds I have spoken with have expressed some concern over one or two bills, but plan to vote in favor of one or more.
I have heard from a few sources that the commitee votes may be on Friday.
With Jahn and Tochtrop swayable, we need to concentrate on them in a CIVIL and RATIONAL manner; but we also need to sway one more... At least. We need to try to overshoot here.
Have we heard of ANY swayable dems besides Tochtrop and Jahn?
This is our last chance.
Last edited by aryntha; 02-19-2013 at 22:03.
How many Dems do we need to vote no for this not to pass?
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