8th grader arrested for NRA shirt

[Dave]

http://news.yahoo.com/8th-grader-arrested-suspended-nra-protect-t-shirt-174825948.html

[Bang]

Found this in the comments section. Seen it before, but figured it's worth a repost.

If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license,
but not for being in the country illegally — you might live in a
nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

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might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you have to show identification to board an airplane, cash a
check, buy liquor, or check out a library book, but not to vote
who runs the government — you might live in a nation founded
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If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding citizens from
owning gun magazines with more than ten rounds, but gives
twenty F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you
might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas,
but not a 24-ounce soda because 24-ounces of a sugary drink
might make you fat — you might live in a nation founded by
geniuses but run by idiots.

If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl confined to a
wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA, but a woman in
a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched
— you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions
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If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his
teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class
in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation
founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

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incentives for not working through 99 weeks of unemployment checks,
without any requirement to prove they sought, but couldn’t find, work
— you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

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but run by idiots.

If being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you more “safe”
according to the government — you might live in a nation founded by
geniuses but run by idiots.

[losttrail]

what if he would have worn a pro 1st amendment t-shirt with someone burning a flag?

that would probably be ok.

what if he wore a pro 4th amendment t-shirt?

how is something glorifying our bill or rights bad?

As long as it defames America, it would be acceptable. The problem arises when students attempt to show support of our Constitutional rights. The DoE does not want free thinkers or patriots. Just mindlessly follow along with the state dictates.

[BushMasterBoy]

Another prime example of the dumbing down of America. Producing a nation of dummies seems to be what the ruling class want.

[brobar]

If he was arrested BECAUSE OF THE SHIRT... then there is quite a story here.

If he was arrested because he put up a fight/argument after being confronted by the administration... it is still a story, but much less of a story. Just like polls... it is all in the wording.

I agree there is nothing wrong with the shirt. The time and place to fight it isn't in the middle of class. Go to the principal, log your complaint, get the paper trail started and then go home and involve your parents and lawyers, etc... Disrupting the classroom and making a scene (even if you are in the right) is really not the time/place to do it. Stand up and fight for your rights... but know when, where and how to appropriately and most effectively do so.

[Mtn.man]

http://www.wowktv.com/story/22020264/8th-grade-student-arrested-over-gun-t-shirt

[Chad4000]

If he was arrested BECAUSE OF THE SHIRT... then there is quite a story here.

If he was arrested because he put up a fight/argument after being confronted by the administration... it is still a story, but much less of a story. Just like polls... it is all in the wording.

I agree there is nothing wrong with the shirt. The time and place to fight it isn't in the middle of class. Go to the principal, log your complaint, get the paper trail started and then go home and involve your parents and lawyers, etc... Disrupting the classroom and making a scene (even if you are in the right) is really not the time/place to do it. Stand up and fight for your rights... but know when, where and how to appropriately and most effectively do so.

I think "right here right now" works when you are talking about constitutional rights... he was confronted... that could have happened in the principles office too...

[sellersm]

More of Agenda 21. And to the "right here, right now" issue: we've come a long way from the likes of Rosa Parks and others that stood up for their rights "at the moment"...

[Chad4000]

More of Agenda 21. And to the "right here, right now" issue: we've come a long way from the likes of Rosa Parks and others that stood up for their rights "at the moment"...


is that a good or bad thing?

[brobar]

I think "right here right now" works when you are talking about constitutional rights... he was confronted... that could have happened in the principles office too...

How much Constitutional rights are we talking about in the classroom? I mean, wasn't his Constitutional rights already stripped because he couldn't wear a t-shirt with a beer or Marlboro cigarettes on it? Wasn't his parents' Constitutional rights already stripped because they can't carry on school properties? There is a much bigger question besides just his NRA shirt. If we are fighting for Constitutional rights in the classroom... they could be fighting for 1st Amendment rights for ALL t-shirts (beer, cigarettes, naked women, etc...) they could also be fighting for 2nd Amendment rights so their parents can carry on school grounds, at the basketball game, etc...

It sounds like there has been so much opportunity to stand up and fight "right here right now" for their constitutional rights before the whole NRA shirt encounter. BUT... I guess it has to start somewhere. MAYBE this will be the start to allowing other shirts protected under the 1st amendment... shirts with hate speech, shirts with lude and provocative graphics, shirts with pro and anti-american themes. I mean if we are talking 1st Amendment rights in the classroom for kids... you really shouldn't be able to draw ANY line, right?

I hope, if this is pursued, it goes well beyond just the NRA shirt. If they approach it from a freedom of speech, 1st Amendment Right perspective... they should be able to completely get rid of the dress code all together. Which brings up... do public schools have the right to implement any dress code since said code could infringe upon 1st Amendment rights.

Now in a way... it is all moot because there was nothing in the dress code that applied to shirts with gun graphics on them. But I am looking at bigger picture since "rights" were brought into question. What "rights" did they have since there was already rules in place saying they couldn't wear some things that anywhere outside of the classroom would be protected by the 1st Amendment?

[sellersm]

I think many people are afraid to stand up for their constitutional rights for fear of the repercussions. In the world in which we live today, there won't be any "good" outcomes to taking a stand... There's a lot of 'armchair bickering' at folks that have taken stands on their rights.

I wasn't in the classroom, so I don't know what happened... I'm just making some general observations of what I appear to be seeing the past few years.

What I fear is that those who appear to be supportive, may in fact end up turning against those, who, when the time comes, take a stand for those inalienable rights bestowed upon us by our Creator. I truly hope that I'm wrong.

[Chad4000]

my problem is not with the greater issue here. its with the fact that he was approached over a shirt that wasnt banned by policy. he was put on the spot.

sorry If i misunderstood the comments eariler. it sounded like everyone was ok with taking the shirt off (which was fully allowed under the dress code) and fighting later.... to me, if there was a discussion to be had about the shirt, the schools officials could have brought him into the office, and blabla....

my point on the constitutional rights thing is that we arent talking about a shirt that has to do with something not specifically protected..

[rabb]

http://www.examiner.com/article/middle-school-student-ordered-to-cover-marine-corps-t-shirt-or-face-suspension

This seems to be becomming the norm in schools. Makes me sick.

[sellersm]

So if he complied, why the trip to the principal's office?

Agenda 21 people... If it were about the 'violent image on the shirt', the matter would've ended when he turned it inside out.

[Irving]

Seems like it takes two to create a disturbance in this situation.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Seems like it takes two to create a disturbance in this situation.

Nah, one weak-kneed overemotional liberal is all you need ...

[rondog]

I don't know if there's enough steel-toed boots in this country to kick everyone in the balls that desperately need/deserve it.