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brokenscout
04-23-2013, 17:28
http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/23/technology/smart-guns/index.html


'Smart guns' could be next step in gun control

A proposal to expand background checks failed in Washington, but several entrepreneurs say they have a different answer to curbing gun violence.

They're using technology to create guns that only fire in the right hands. These so-called smart guns can recognize a watch, a ring or even just a grip.

For more than a decade, researchers at the New Jersey Institute of Technology have been working on a grip-recognizing gun similar to the one James Bond uses in "Skyfall."

Sensors on the grip -- similar to the touchpad on a laptop -- measure the pressure applied and the size and shape of the hand holding the gun.

"If a child tries to grab the gun, their hand geometry is actually going to be smaller," said NJIT Associate Professor Michael Recce. "So they're not going to touch the sensors, and they're not going to be able to fire the gun."

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, about 232,000 guns are stolen every year. Recce says these criminals would not be able to use a grip-recognizing gun.

Another company, Armatix, uses radio frequency technology in its weapons, which unlock with a watch and a PIN. If someone who isn't wearing the watch grabs the gun, it immediately deactivates.
"Anybody who picks up the handgun, whether it's a child or it's actively stolen, they can't activate the watch," said Belinda Padilla, president and CEO of Armatix USA.

Armatix already sells these personalized guns in Europe and Asia.

Triggersmart, founded by Irish entrepreneur Robert McNamara, also uses radio frequency technology to enable -- and disable -- guns. The chip that activates the gun can be placed in a ring, bracelet or potentially even embedded in the owner's hand.

Personalized weapons makers say their products are effective and inexpensive. But even so, none are available in the United States, due to lack of demand from gun makers and owners.

With guns in the national spotlight, that could soon change. These entrepreneurs have discussed their technology with the attorney general, and Obama touted smart guns in his 23-point plan to reduce gun violence in the wake of the Newtown shooting.

Several other gun control measures -- including background checks and an assault weapon ban -- recently failed, but smart guns are still on the table. Rep. John Tierney, a Massachusetts Democrat, plans to introduce a House bill in the next few weeks requiring that all guns include personalization technology within two years.

The smart-gun makers say their products could have prevented the tragedy in Newtown, but critics are doubtful.

"The firearms were accessible to Adam Lanza. They should not have been," said Lawrence Keane, senior vice president and general counsel of the National Shooting Sports Foundation. "If [Mrs. Lanza] had one that had this sort of authorized user recognition onboard the firearm, presumably he would've had access to that."

Keane isn't completely against personalized weapons, but he says the technology isn't reliable enough yet and could even make guns more dangerous.

"It can actually encourage people to leave loaded firearms accessible, relying upon the technology which can fail at the most inopportune time," he said.

The NRA has previously expressed concerns about personalized weapons as well. They did not respond to requests for comment for this story.

Personalized gunmakers agree that this technology won't stop all gun violence, but they say it could be an important step.

"Personalized handguns and personalized technology will save lives of many people and children," said Padilla.

Dingo
04-23-2013, 17:34
Ummm.... FUCK THAT. I don't need my car braking for me, my house talking to me, my computer spying on me, or my guns deciding when they will fire.

Dingo
04-23-2013, 17:35
I can just see the BSOD, and accompanying "OEM exception at 2q3875938746598374597345978w4t89:q453475v101010101 ... please re-boot your handgun device and apply necessary updates."

Meanwhile, the zombies advance...

[MOD Note: BSOD = Windows "Blue Screen of Death"]

Bailey Guns
04-23-2013, 17:47
These have been tried before and have failed miserably. No thanks. For a lot of reasons.

CroiDhubh
04-23-2013, 17:52
Weren't the last ones prone to being interrupted by things as simple as a garage door opener?

clublights
04-23-2013, 18:10
if you notice in the video the "armatrix" gun fails to fire multiple times.

at about 54 seconds and 57 seconds you see them pull the trigger.. hear the click .. no round fired the shooters tried to cover by pulling the trigger again quickly .

Rooskibar03
04-23-2013, 18:11
Your Glock has just suffered a Blue Screen of Death. Please contact your nearest M$ service representative for assistance. [ROFL1]

StagLefty
04-23-2013, 18:40
Misfire due to needing a Java update ??

spqrzilla
04-23-2013, 18:50
The few laws that have been passed or proposed to mandate such technology all exempt law enforcement ... which is the only real application that even might make some sense regarding the misuse of a gun taken from the officer.

Fail.

mtik00
04-23-2013, 19:43
I write code all day long. I'm very familiar with software bugs. It'll be a cold day in hell before I resort to that kind of technology on my firearm (this, coming from technophile).

anaphylaxis
04-23-2013, 20:00
Fantastic. EMP burst knocks out my computers, car and guns. No thanks.

Though that would sure be a great way to control a population... </tinfoil>

TS12000
04-23-2013, 20:01
Shit considering my little facial recognition logon only works once in a blue moon I think I'll pass

cofi
04-23-2013, 20:02
i dont even like safeties on my pistols.....perfectly happy with how my glock works now

palepainter
04-23-2013, 21:00
So....when your guns are stolen, the theives need to cut off your hands too. [blah-blah]

pepito
04-23-2013, 21:56
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baglock1
04-23-2013, 22:07
Fantastic. EMP burst knocks out my computers, car and guns. No thanks.

Though that would sure be a great way to control a population... </tinfoil>

No need for an EMP. I'm quite sure the gov't would allocate an RF band for these that they could easily jam in the event of civil unrest.

Irving
04-23-2013, 22:16
Shall not be infringed?

Dingo
04-24-2013, 08:14
No need for an EMP. I'm quite sure the gov't would allocate an RF band for these that they could easily jam in the event of civil unrest.

Exactly my thoughts on the matter. Doesn't have a damn thing to do with "keeping guns out of the criminals hands", and EVERYTHING to do with keeping citizens' guns under gov't control. As with all gun legislation...

DanofSteel
04-24-2013, 08:32
Exactly.

brokenscout
04-24-2013, 08:42
I wouldn't mind like an Iphone gun:) igun would catch on

sellersm
04-24-2013, 09:10
Like this? http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/04/23/i1911-handgun-from-apple/



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brokenscout
04-24-2013, 09:16
lol
Like this? http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/04/23/i1911-handgun-from-apple/



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Singlestack
04-24-2013, 09:31
The statists always look for more ways to regulate the population. Unfortunately, technology cuts both ways and can be used to limit freedoms. Reminds me of the US patent Apple was granted last summer for a smart phone with features that can be selectively enabled or disabled by a third party within a given distance of a location. The example given was disabling the audible ringer within a movie theater - all fine and good. However, the same technology could be used to, for hypothetical example, disable the audio or video recording capability within a certain distance of an officer or police car. Or completely disable a phone under external command, say during martial law.

Ronin13
04-24-2013, 09:41
I can just see the BSOD, and accompanying "OEM exception at 2q3875938746598374597345978w4t89:q453475v101010101 ... please re-boot your handgun device and apply necessary updates."

Meanwhile, the zombies advance...

[MOD Note: BSOD = Windows "Blue Screen of Death"]
[ROFL1]
You don't even need to go that far- what if you're out of town on business or out on the town with the guys and the significant other is home alone, criminal breaks in, oops, you're wearing your encoded watch, gun is in the bedside safe and he/she cannot use it because there is only one coded watch paired with the gun? Oh crap! Now it's just a big paper weight. [facepalm]Remember guys, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Besides, statistically speaking, guns are still not even in the top 10 killers in America.

Aloha_Shooter
04-24-2013, 09:48
Just what I need, another Mi$fire from Steve Ballmer. I can just see Anonymous cracking into the encoded gun network and screwing around with the security codes and biometric authorizations.

RblDiver
04-24-2013, 10:18
"And while you wait for your gun to fire, a few words from our sponsors."

Also....in that picture above, oddly the first thing I noticed was that clearly some artist has no idea about temperature. 98 kelvin would be roughly -283 degrees Fahrenheit.