Need help with refinishing AKs in Denver

[VDW]

I just got my milled Yugo M64 kits back from the re-welder and need to refinish them. Can anyone tell me what kind of finish was original (blued, parked, etc...). Also, is there anyone in town who can refinish these for a reasonable price?

Thanks.

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[Great-Kazoo]

It's a firearm. You need to deal with a smith who has an FFL, BPtactical / Bert. Unless you refinish it yourself.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Bert, the cat man, can do it for great price

[islandermyk]

Just be sure you dump it in handsanitizer when you get it back from Bert... God only knows what he did with my "Lil B*tch" (Krinkov) when it was in his possession [ROFL1]

... but yea, as what they have said.... Bert is your man! [Beer]

[VDW]

It's a firearm. You need to deal with a smith who has an FFL, BPtactical / Bert. Unless you refinish it yourself.

The rewelds were done by a Class 07 (I think that's the right number) manufacturer, and the receivers are now US made parts, so I don't need to worry about that.

[palepainter]

Actually, Jim is referring to the person who takes possession of the gun to do the refinishing. They need to have an FFL to take possession of the rifle to do the finishing.

[VDW]

I received some schooling...
[pick-me]

I now understand. Thanks for the head's up!

[ben4372]

I built one like that, not quite a rough, but close. I cold blued the white metal parts then distressed it, looks like a bring home trophy. Most cost effective would likely be a Duracoat shake and shoot kit.

[Hunter12]

I'm not sure what the original finish might had been. But, they are really fun to shoot. I love my AK. Just something about them darn things that makes you want to keep shooting them again and again and again.....

[CHA-LEE]

I use Denver Metal Finishing. I have used them countless times to do hard chrome on pistols. They have many different finishes available and have done an awesome job on all of the stuff I have brought them. It usually takes them about 3 - 5 business days to get it done and they have very reasonable prices. I have listed their website below. One thing to keep in mind is that you need to disassemble the firearm and only bring the parts that need coated to them, preferably clean parts as well. As far as I know they don't offer firearm disassembly/reassembly services. They can sand blast parts before coating them to give the finish a more dull look. If you want a super polished mirror finish, its up to you to get the parts polished up and then they can coat it.

www.denvermetalfinishing.com (http://www.denvermetalfinishing.com)

[BPTactical]

^^^last I heard they did not have a FFL.

[CHA-LEE]

Why would they need an FFL to have someone walk in and drop off THEIR firearm to have coated? You are not Transferring your firearm to them. Its your firearm when you drop it off to be coated and still your firearm when you go pick it up.

[palepainter]

From what I understand, it is because they are taking possession of the firearm. I have had to turn quite a few people away for duracoating due to this.

[CHA-LEE]

Maybe there are different requirement when its a non-functional pile of firearm parts? Every time I have taken stripped frames, slides, and trigger group parts in there to get coated they have never said anything about needing an FFL transfer or anything like that. I can understand if someone brought a complete functional firearm to them and they disassembled it, coated it, then reassembled it. But like I said, they don't do that kind of work there. You bring them piece parts that need to be coated and they coat them.

[BPTactical]

If they are refinishing the serialized component(a serialized component IS the firearm according to BATFE) and they are: A- doing it for profit B- keeping it in excess of one business day they MUST have a valid FFL.
They can do all the triggers, sights, barrels etc they want but the minute they accept a frame/receiver or any other serialized component they are in violation if they are not a FFL holder.

[palepainter]

Another one of those sensible codes......

[BigNick73]

I thought the original finish on most AKs is a black oxide.

If you want to DIY it caswell plating has a black oxide kit. It's 2 part you dip the parts in the solution for 5 minutes, turns em black then coat with a sealant/oil deal. I've done several of mine with it and like the results and seems to hold up well.

Just make sure you degrease the thing really well before you dip it.

[palepainter]

Duracoat is what I use. I sandblast with a coal slag.. When you degrease after blast, you get a lot of fibers stuck to metal parts after the blasting cleans it the parts. I like to degrease before blasting. But you can get a decent finish with Preval sprayers.

[palepainter]

I would consider having a refinish party at my shop sometime. That way, everyone could do their own stuff. I could help with the solvent tank and blasters. I also have a decent booth. All legal requirements would be met, as I can cure the parts with UV and you can take the stuff home that afternoon.

[def90]

Maybe there are different requirement when its a non-functional pile of firearm parts? Every time I have taken stripped frames, slides, and trigger group parts in there to get coated they have never said anything about needing an FFL transfer or anything like that. I can understand if someone brought a complete functional firearm to them and they disassembled it, coated it, then reassembled it. But like I said, they don't do that kind of work there. You bring them piece parts that need to be coated and they coat them.

They have to have an FFL to be in possession of a frame or receiver. If you drop off every other part of the rifle other than the frame or receiver there is not an issue but who's going to refinish an entire gun and not do the frame/receiver?

[Great-Kazoo]

Maybe there are different requirement when its a non-functional pile of firearm parts? Every time I have taken stripped frames, slides, and trigger group parts in there to get coated they have never said anything about needing an FFL transfer or anything like that. I can understand if someone brought a complete functional firearm to them and they disassembled it, coated it, then reassembled it. But like I said, they don't do that kind of work there. You bring them piece parts that need to be coated and they coat them.

You're Not transferring the firearm to be refinished. This is not about "transferring a firearm" it is about refinishing one. If the gun stays over night See BP's reply below.


If they are refinishing the serialized component(a serialized component IS the firearm according to BATFE) and they are: A- doing it for profit B- keeping it in excess of one business day they MUST have a valid FFL.
They can do all the triggers, sights, barrels etc they want but the minute they accept a frame/receiver or any other serialized component they are in violation if they are not a FFL holder.