Any one else taking Prednisone regularly?

[DangerLee_Industries]

I'm doing cycles every few weeks to help recover from a severe spinal injury over a year ago. I'm having a hard time getting more than 3ish hours a sleep and it's usually between 5-8 in the a.m. Is anybody else fighting or has fought something similar and have you had any luck with anything to knock you out?

[jhood001]

I'm not sure if it will counter-act the prednisone, but Melatonin supplements knock me out. It is cheap and easy to find at Walgreens. Hell, even Costco has it. I would ask your pharmacist if it is cool to try it though first.

[DangerLee_Industries]

I was just reading about that as well. I'm tired of all the prescription meds so hopefully this is easy on me and will work. I'm calling my pharmacist in the a.m.... Thanks for the heads up...

[rondog]

Any chance you may have sleep apnea? I've got it bad, and a CPAP machine changed my life. Used to be, I couldn't sleep for shit. Now, you could walk up on me and conk me on the head, and I'd never hear you coming.

If you snore real bad or make gasping, choking noises, or sound like you stop breathing, mention it to your doc and ask for a sleep study. Ask your wife if she's noticed anything. Just a thought.

But I've had two spine surgeries, so if it's a pain thing, I know where you're coming from.

[Clint45]

I'm not sure if it will counter-act the prednisone, but Melatonin supplements knock me out. It is cheap and easy to find at Walgreens. Hell, even Costco has it. I would ask your pharmacist if it is cool to try it though first.

Melatonin is SAFE and natural . . . comes in gelcaps and "Dream Water" reverse energy shots. Much better than OTC sleeping pills. Whatever you do, stay the hell away from prescription sleeping pills like Ambien or Halcyion . . . I've heard too many horror stories about crazy side effects.

[DangerLee_Industries]

Any chance you may have sleep apnea? I've got it bad, and a CPAP machine changed my life. Used to be, I couldn't sleep for shit. Now, you could walk up on me and conk me on the head, and I'd never hear you coming.If you snore real bad or make gasping, choking noises, or sound like you stop breathing, mention it to your doc and ask for a sleep study. Ask your wife if she's noticed anything. Just a thought.But I've had two spine surgeries, so if it's a pain thing, I know where you're coming from.Yeah it's definitely nerve pain that's the root cause. I'm fortunate and don't snore/apnea at all but I know that's tough since my buddy has been fighting that same issue his whole life. I can usually get almost 5 hours of sleep which works for now except when I'm on the roids. They definitely help to reduce the internal inflammation to where it doesn't feel like my spine will explode if I bend over. But damn I'm just jittery as shit for the 9 days I have to be on them and can't sleep at all. The last thing I want to do is a prescribed sleep aid as I'm very sensitive to meds. I hope the melatonin works that would be awesome.I feel for you needing that CPAP machine since I know that's long term. I'm lucky and only have another 3-4 years of this crap hopefully....

[Fentonite]

Insomnia is a pretty common side effect, as is anxiety. Some people get full-blown psychosis (rare). You might ask your doc to try a Medrol Dose Pack, instead of prednisone. Still a corticsteroid (methylprednisolone), but some folks tolerate it better. It comes in a blister pack that tapers over 6 days. You can take the entire day's dose in the morning instead of throughout the day, and you might sleep better. Just a thought. Worked better for me before my back surgery.

Have they considered local steroid injections instead of systemic steroids? Less side effects. Continued corticosteroid use can really monkey with your body, in lots of ways. Be careful. Good luck.

[Great-Kazoo]

Make sure you stay out of the sun. You become sun sensitive with that shit. While melatonin works [ for some] it did nothing but cause serious ulcer irritation. Have you talked with your doctor about these issues?

[Bailey Guns]

I don't have any issues nearly as serious as the OP in terms of pain. But I do have chronic issues with not being able to sleep. I'll occasionally take two benadryl before bed and it helps a lot. As far as I can tell there aren't many side effects.

[muddywings]

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[Dingo]

I can give you a quick run-down on sleep aids from both the stand point of a medical professional with a background in pharmacology, and a nearly incurable insomniac of over 15 years.

Prescription drugs: I've tried ALL of them at some point or another. The ONLY one that doesn't carry a list of potentially serious side effects, won't ruin your waking life, doesn't carry a risk of delirium and sleep-walking, and is still effective for long term use is trazodone. The only negative side effect is that it decreases your libido if you're on a high dose of it, but that effect disappears after 24 hours from stopping it. I would stay FAR away from the "Z-class" drugs like Ambien or Sonata. Tried them, and had nothing but nightmares. There are plenty of horror stories about people waking up in their car driving somewhere, or wandering around outside on those. And I've personally seen a lot of weird behaviours out of people using it in the hospital. Plus, they're only effective for the treatment of short-term insomnia. The benzodiazapene class (Restoril, Valium, Xanax, Ativan) etc are frequently used for sleep aids, but are habit-forming after a week or two. Trazodone can be taken "as needed" without having to be on it every day, it's been around since the late 60's, and has no apparent long-term side effects - it's the only prescription drug I could recommend.

Over the counter: Benadryl is perfectly safe, but becomes ineffective quickly (like after a few nights in a row). Combined with melatonin, it's not bad. Melatonin is something your body naturally produces which allows you to descend into the lower levels of sleep that insomniacs have difficulty reaching. The more restful/healing levels. Your body doesn't produce enough of it if you're stressd (Prednisone mimics the direct effect of stress on your body in every way - it's deliberately suppressing your immune system, and tends to stimulate a stress response on your central nervous system.) or if you have a less than dark/quiet room to sleep in. Blue light exposure (like TV/computer screens, night lights etc) before or during sleep will decrease melatonin production as well. Unless you're really sensitive, melatonin supplements won't do much on their own. In conjunction with something that knocks you out, like Benadryl, they make for a restful night's sleep.

Alcohol, marijuana, opiates - all have an effect of putting people to sleep, but they disrupt your natural sleep architecture to where the sleep you're getting isn't restful. It's akin to somebody with sleep apnea - they may sleep soundly all night, but the sleep is essentially useless to their body.

If I were to recommend a sleep aid to somebody, I would suggest 25mg of Benadryl and 3-6mg of melatonin together. Along with a quiet, dark room. Even Benadryl will disrupt the normal sleep cycles to some degree, but in low doses and in conjunction with the melatonin, it at least allows some normal sleep.

I feel for ya - I've been an insomniac since I was a teenager, and haven't slept unmedicated for a very long time.

[DD977GM2]

Try taking motion sickness pills for sleeping, like Dramamine. I take prednisone for periodds of time due to ulcerative colitis that I unfortu ntaly have.
The prednisone does make me an insomniac and I have found taking the dramamine is a cheap and effective way to get rest. It also as far as I can tell
is non habit forming as I dont use it when I taper off prednisone.

[DangerLee_Industries]

Insomnia is a pretty common side effect, as is anxiety. Some people get full-blown psychosis (rare). You might ask your doc to try a Medrol Dose Pack, instead of prednisone. Still a corticsteroid (methylprednisolone), but some folks tolerate it better. It comes in a blister pack that tapers over 6 days. You can take the entire day's dose in the morning instead of throughout the day, and you might sleep better. Just a thought. Worked better for me before my back surgery. Have they considered local steroid injections instead of systemic steroids? Less side effects. Continued corticosteroid use can really monkey with your body, in lots of ways. Be careful. Good luck.Unfortunately injections are out for me. That would be the best route but a needle in the back is what caused my current situation..... They didn't have this effect on my body for the last 6 months not sure why the last 2 cycles have. I suppose my body may be saying enough is enough. I only have 4 days left this time around then go back to see my doctor again to see what else we can try.Thanks for all the good info everyone!!!!! [Beer]Hack