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Please GOD, help our Country.[Salute]
Pistol Packing Preacher
11-04-2008, 22:14
And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.
Fourthwind
11-04-2008, 22:34
Sad day for this great country. Might as well change our national anthem now. One nation under islam.....
Conservatives unite, lets get the Jefferson party rolling again.
Sad day for America. As part of the mourning for the country I just ordered a CW40.
Chaffee2
11-04-2008, 22:44
It's going to be a long ride. Hang on to your wallets, guns, culture and country. I really hope all these idiots who voted for bo get the brunt of the socialism that is about to come.
What the hell am I smoking? Those of us who work, saved, took part in the freedom of this what this country had to offer are the one's who are going to get hammered.
How in the hell could we have gone from a freedom loving nation to this? It is going to take some time to let all this sink in.
Congrats to all who voted for bo, you took a great nation to it knees. And not only are we going to pay the world is going to pay dearly. Next terrorist attack is coming by summer at the latest, we are going to get hit. Why? Because we are weak and we have no balls in the halls of government any longer. I bet the terrorists are quaking in their caves at the thought of facing a combined force of bo, polosi and reid, how scary is that?
Sorry for the rant.
John Moses Browning
11-04-2008, 22:48
You know, I think we actually needed this, as a remedy for the eight years of president Bush.
I'm going to LOVE watching the democratic party implode upon itself. I'm going to LOVE hearing about all of those mindless zombies who supported him crying, "Where's my free gasoline? I thought my mortgage debts would be absolved!" I'm going to LOVE watching ObamaX bloviate to millions of people proclaiming how his messianic intentions for this country just need more time to work.
Obama's presidency will be a Godsend of disheartening disappointment to his brain-dead, idealist followers. Once his policies are implemented, people will not just see how socialism is a bane of hopeless failure, but they will FEEL it, and UNDERSTAND it.
I think Obama's rule over this country will be our deliverance to a Palin '12 candidacy. All of those mentally retarded punks who put him in office will come to terms with the fact that Obama is nothing but a shit-stain blight of an empty suit.
Don't give up hope yet, if we dealt with eight years of Clinton, we can cling on to liberty during the course of four.
hey, this is not over yet!
Don't give up hope yet, if we dealt with eight years of Clinton, we can cling on to liberty during the course of four.
This is what I keep telling myself, yet I have this sick feeling in my stomach.
He better not go for another AWB. he better look back and see it did nothing. Hopefully he listens to those around him and realizes it won't be good for him to do. either way....fuck obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&eurl=http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=30680
Son of a Bitch! We are screwed!!!!
We are so screwed. With a Dem Congress and a Dem Senate, we are totally screwed. Start thinking of a good place to bury your guns.[Rant1]
robsterclaw
11-04-2008, 23:45
It does not surprise me at all that he won.
When you have the majority of teachers pushing a liberal agenda for years.
When you have all the major news outlets slanting everything towards the liberal agenda.
When you have all the entertainment young adults watch, and all these stars pushing the agenda.
When you have an ever increasing amount of people looking for a hand out or blaming someone else for their problems. It's no surprise these people will vote for the candidate who promises them the most "spoils" from their victory.
But what DOES surprise me, is the idiot fucking morons in this state voting for Udall. He lied about his record. If you believed what he was saying he was about you'd just about think he's conservative. Just doing a little research shows how deceitful he is. And morons of this state, trying to wash the taste of Bush out of their mouth voting for everything democrat put him in.
I will agree with the post above saying now people can see for themselves how badly the dems will screw up. People aren't smart enough anymore to understand things. Right now we have a dem controlled congress. And they only thing with lower scores then Bush is the dem controlled congress. And what the hell happened tonight? More Dems elected to congress and the senate.
People want to push everyone to vote. Get out the vote. How about you get these idiots educated on the issues and what's going on before you have them vote.
I have some co-workers that voted for Obama. I'm just counting the days until they start bitching about their taxes going up. "You asked for it, pay up, suckers!"
On a positive note, this country has survived some really bad Presidents in its past. ;)
Douglas county did its part. I can't worry about shhhtuff beyond my control.
The media has been in the bag for the Dems for years. Now that the Dems run the show, who is the MSM going to blame?
Looks like I'm going to be doing some gun shopping before the new year.
kidicarus13
11-05-2008, 03:06
I'm going to LOVE watching ObamaX bloviate to millions of people proclaiming how his messianic intentions for this country just need more time to work.
Nail on the head
Great-Kazoo
11-05-2008, 07:22
we also has 33K vote for a 3rd party canidate. roll those numbers into McCain and this state would have stayed red.
There will tough times ahead, but hopefully the current Justices on the Supreme Court can hang in there until the next election. I see another run at the 2nd Amendment and a heavy tax on firearms and ammunition. Also some really unreasonable laws coming down the hill on us. I'm going to do my part by heading to the Whittington Center and shoot my newly acquired pistol (thanks Joe!) and plan on buying some evil hi-cap magazines and another pistol. Go out and celebrate by doing the same, buy a gun (ammo and accessories) and go shoot!
Obama Drama
our firearms are going to slowly start disappearing. [Bang]
I will not bury,hide or get rid of my guns. I WILL USE THEM. I may die, tring to keep them. Hopefully we will unite. [Weight]Time to get in shape.
[Rant2]OK Boys there's extra tin foil for your hats over in the corner..
This is about as good a response to all of the woe is us crap I've seen so far.
Quoted from lightfighter.net - if you're not a member, get on it.
"Originally posted by Duke:
The Chair IS [officially] Against The Wall!
You are the last hope for America; you hold it in your hearts, your minds and your homes! An election was won and an election was lost, but America is not yet lost! Maybe you wear a flag on your shoulder, or on your badge, or you just fly one in your yard and tie yellow bows, and hoist your mug of coffee.
We're now the minority. We're now the underdog. We're now the persecuted, the oppressed.
"Fornicate quicumque es non nostrum". No one has conquered me. Nor have they you.
From Romans; "I have preserved unto me 7,000 who have not bowed their knees to Baal."
Are you one of those 7,000? Or will you roll over and throw up your hands? No foolish public act of criminality is needed -but your courage, fortitude and an even keel of mind is most needed.
On paper, the borders of 'real' America may have receded tonight. But they don't have to with you and I.
I pledge allegiance, to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands -one Nation, under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all.
Strength and honor. "
Boat Guy
11-05-2008, 09:59
OK, we've been had. Time to ruck up and keep moving.
No I don't think most of the idiots who voted for the coming regime will come to their senses and realize what they've done to all of us. If they're easily led to the kind of "thinking" that allowed them to do what they've just done they will accept all of the excuses and diversions the regime will serve to them. Perhaps a few may experience enough remorse to come around and they should be welcomed.
Udall will bend us over the bollard just like the rest of his party - and the other party far too often - have been doing for some time now. It's time to find common cause with those who still believe in what the USA was founded upon. It's time for the Republicans - and the NRA - to abandon pork-rolling types like Ted Stevens, even when they vote correctly on "our issue".
First off, To those of You who voted third party too "Make a statement"
how's it feeling?
Secondly, I do not feel that it is the end of the Country..I see the Bill of Rights taking a few hits.. My greatest fear though, is that on 1-21-09,
is that all the old lib justices on the SC will "resign" Giveing Barry the only shot at a "legacy" that He will have..
I honestly, believe that We are on the Brink of the Most corrupt, inept, and scandel ridden administration since Warren G. Harding..
The abuse of power that We are going to see starting in January, Will make clinton pale in comparison..
I am flying My flag at half-staff today. And it will it will fly at half-staff on 1-20-09.. Between tomorrow and then, and after, it will fly high and proud.. Because in spite of what the libs tell Me,, I am still proud to live in this Country, and in spite of the sudden left turn the State made, I will still be proud to be a native of this State..
To quote Winston Chruchill,, "This is not the end, or the beginning of the end. It is however, the end of the beginning" Think about it...
I feel like I didn't vote for a liberal.
I voted for the Bill of Rights.
I love this Country and hope TRUE Conservatives will now get a fire in their belly. We need to get out of the GOP and go with a Jeffersonian Anti-Federalist party.
CONSERVATIVES WAKE UP THE GOP IS BOUGHT & PAID FOR. Bush grabbed more power & more than doubled the size of Government.
First off, To those of You who voted third party too "Make a statement" how's it feeling?
Since I voted McCain, it feels like I wasted my vote.
However, I just checked some results from the Post and if the 34,000 third party voters were all to have voted Republican, we still would have been 107,000 votes short. Maybe the Posts numbers are off or my math sucks, but it looks to me like they have nothing to be ashamed of.
At this point, I know what You mean....
At this point, The best thing to do is find our "The One" and go from there..
And no it's not Ron Paul...
The one maybe, local government then up the ladder.
Boat Guy
11-05-2008, 16:24
I honestly, believe that We are on the Brink of the Most corrupt, inept, and scandel ridden administration since Warren G. Harding..
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Don't sell Obama-Biden short; they'll easily be more corrupt, inept and scandal-ridden than any administration in the history of the country. It might be tough to get at the "scandals" though with the entire fourth estate shilling for them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&eurl=http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=30680
They are already here. As of October 1st, 12,000 American troops were brought back from Iraq and stationed in the US. As of this time, I don't remember where. But, I got to read an email from a friend who is on a military email list of some type. It was talking about how they were being stationed in the US to protect us from terrorists and drug dealers. What I want to know is if we are going to be considered terrorists in the future for claiming our 2nd Amendment rights.
I'm astonished at how lazy people have become, how they look to a leader to be their savior and have such ignorant mindsets.
I'm getting stressed sitting here thinking about this.
They are already here. As of October 1st, 12,000 American troops were brought back from Iraq and stationed in the US. As of this time, I don't remember where.
They came back from Iraq and instead of going back to their original bases, homes and families, they have gone off to a super-duper-secret ninja-training base to learn how to fly black helicopters and steal your thoughts.
I'd like to blame all the conservatives that bashed McCain over the past year or so, Rush and Anne & etc, but I'm afraid the truth is that there were quite a few people that would have voted for anyone with a (D). It would have taken a Reagan to pull this one out. I don't know if they actually did it, but I know several life long Republicans that threatened to stay home or vote Boston Tea Party rather than McCain. With people like that undermining the campaign...
This should have been an election with a record turnout, but I don't think it was (I could be wrong). I'm sure every liberal made it to the polls, but I suspect far too many conservatives stayed home.
Then again, my second point counters my first. Either McCain never had a chance or apathetic conservatives gave it away... Even for a software engineer I make a pretty lousy political scientist.
This is the first time I've voted for a major party candidate since 1988 tho. And it kind of angers me that it was a total waste of effort. I just can't figure out who to be angry at. The hippies, I suppose.
Tin Foil .. GET YOUR TIN FOIL ..
Hat patterns.. Free Hat patterns..
GETTYLEIGH
11-05-2008, 18:48
Has anybody else got a visit from an LEO today? I been home all day, and an LEO came beating on the door saying someone capped off a shotgun round and took out a pigeon. I never heard the kaboom. Just feeling freaked that all of a sudden, we get a new head honcho, and I feel like I been gun checked. I live in a real quiet neighborhood in the eastern part of the springs. Anybody got a scanner or a way to find out if there was a 911 call? I had nothing to hide, and told the LEO so as I left him sniff my grandpa's 12 ga Crescent SXS. Hell, I bet it hasn't been shot for ten years, but it still gets a yearly cleaning. Thank the Lord it still had that just cleaned smell, because it's about half way till gun cleaning season again. Anyway, for all our sakes, I hope I just got the freshly elected democrat jitters. Somebody, please soothe my instincts, and tell me my mind is just wandering.
cleaner72
11-05-2008, 19:20
Has anybody else got a visit from an LEO today? I been home all day, and an LEO came beating on the door saying someone capped off a shotgun round and took out a pigeon. I never heard the kaboom. Just feeling freaked that all of a sudden, we get a new head honcho, and I feel like I been gun checked. I live in a real quiet neighborhood in the eastern part of the springs. Anybody got a scanner or a way to find out if there was a 911 call? I had nothing to hide, and told the LEO so as I left him sniff my grandpa's 12 ga Crescent SXS. Hell, I bet it hasn't been shot for ten years, but it still gets a yearly cleaning. Thank the Lord it still had that just cleaned smell, because it's about half way till gun cleaning season again. Anyway, for all our sakes, I hope I just got the freshly elected democrat jitters. Somebody, please soothe my instincts, and tell me my mind is just wandering.
Why in the hell would you allow them to even look at your shotgun? If he aint got a warrant he can go to hell. I understand you dont have anything to hide, but why allow law enforcement to search where they have no legal right to do so?
HunterCO
11-05-2008, 20:47
This is my take on the whole election in a way I am glad obama won. This country is in a financial crisis and I don't care who got elected they will not change much in 4 years.
If Mcain won he would have held it at bay but that would not have made the american people happy. People are impatient they want it now. obama let his mouth over load his ass plain and simple. If any president could ever end up with a lower approval rating than bush it is obama.
The democratic party is about to implode over the next few years they can not deliver anything they have promised. If Mcain would have won democrats would be pointing fingers and blaming him. The democrats will have nobody to blame when it all comes crashing down over the next few years.
BTW, many of those "rich" business owners you work for will have to lay some people off in the coming months and years. Many of those same business owner have a good idea what idiots supported the USSA, (how many obama supporters have bumper stickers or preached about it on a daily basis) and guess who gets laid off first with out any bad conscience on the part of the business owner... This isn't speculation by the way.
Truer words have never been spoken. That being said let obama run with it he is on a course of self destruction. All the supporters who think they are going to get something for free are about to get the biggest awakening of their pitiful life.
Nothing in life is free and america is about to find that out the hard way let the games begin. I predict the republicans will take back the house next election and possibly the senate. obama is going to get slaughtered 4 years from now since he can't keep one promise he has made.
One thing I have learned in my life is NEVER let your mouth over load your ass. It will come back to bite you every time.
They are already here. As of October 1st, 12,000 American troops were brought back from Iraq and stationed in the US. As of this time, I don't remember where. But, I got to read an email from a friend who is on a military email list of some type. It was talking about how they were being stationed in the US to protect us from terrorists and drug dealers. What I want to know is if we are going to be considered terrorists in the future for claiming our 2nd Amendment rights.
I'm astonished at how lazy people have become, how they look to a leader to be their savior and have such ignorant mindsets.
I'm getting stressed sitting here thinking about this.
Written by Frank Morales
Thursday, 26 October 2006
Photo: Indymedia.orgIn a stealth maneuver, President Bush has signed into law a provision which, according to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), will actually encourage the President to declare federal martial law (1). It does so by revising the Insurrection Act, a set of laws that limits the President's ability to deploy troops within the United States. The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385), helped to enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. With one cloaked swipe of his pen, Bush is seeking to undo those prohibitions.
Public Law 109-364, or the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122) (2), which was signed by the commander in chief on October 17th, 2006, in a private Oval Office ceremony, allows the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to "suppress public disorder."
President Bush seized this unprecedented power on the very same day that he signed the equally odious Military Commissions Act of 2006. In a sense, the two laws complement one another. One allows for torture and detention abroad, while the other seeks to enforce acquiescence at home, preparing to order the military onto the streets of America. Remember, the term for putting an area under military law enforcement control is precise; the term is "martial law."
Section 1076 of the massive Authorization Act, which grants the Pentagon another $500-plus-billion for its ill-advised adventures, is entitled, "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies." Section 333, "Major public emergencies; interference with State and Federal law" states that "the President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of ("refuse" or "fail" in) maintaining public order, "in order to suppress, in any State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy."
For the current President, "enforcement of the laws to restore public order" means to commandeer guardsmen from any state, over the objections of local governmental, military and local police entities; ship them off to another state; conscript them in a law enforcement mode; and set them loose against "disorderly" citizenry - protesters, possibly, or those who object to forced vaccinations and quarantines in the event of a bio-terror event.
The law also facilitates militarized police round-ups and detention of protesters, so called "illegal aliens," "potential terrorists" and other "undesirables" for detention in facilities already contracted for and under construction by Halliburton. That's right. Under the cover of a trumped-up "immigration emergency" and the frenzied militarization of the southern border, detention camps are being constructed right under our noses, camps designed for anyone who resists the foreign and domestic agenda of the Bush administration.
An article on "recent contract awards" in a recent issue of the slick, insider "Journal of Counterterrorism & Homeland Security International" reported that "global engineering and technical services powerhouse KBR [Kellog, Brown & Root] announced in January 2006 that its Government and Infrastructure division was awarded an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contract to support U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facilities in the event of an emergency." "With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five year term," the report notes, "the contract is to be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers," "for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) - in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs." The report points out that "KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton." (3) So, in addition to authorizing another $532.8 billion for the Pentagon, including a $70-billion "supplemental provision" which covers the cost of the ongoing, mad military maneuvers in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places, the new law, signed by the president in a private White House ceremony, further collapses the historic divide between the police and the military: a tell-tale sign of a rapidly consolidating police state in America, all accomplished amidst ongoing U.S. imperial pretensions of global domination, sold to an "emergency managed" and seemingly willfully gullible public as a "global war on terrorism."
Make no mistake about it: the de-facto repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) is an ominous assault on American democratic tradition and jurisprudence. The 1878 Act, which reads, "Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both," is the only U.S. criminal statute that outlaws military operations directed against the American people under the cover of 'law enforcement.' As such, it has been the best protection we've had against the power-hungry intentions of an unscrupulous and reckless executive, an executive intent on using force to enforce its will.
Unfortunately, this past week, the president dealt posse comitatus, along with American democracy, a near fatal blow. Consequently, it will take an aroused citizenry to undo the damage wrought by this horrendous act, part and parcel, as we have seen, of a long train of abuses and outrages perpetrated by this authoritarian administration.
Despite the unprecedented and shocking nature of this act, there has been no outcry in the American media, and little reaction from our elected officials in Congress. On September 19th, a lone Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) noted that 2007's Defense Authorization Act contained a "widely opposed provision to allow the President more control over the National Guard [adopting] changes to the Insurrection Act, which will make it easier for this or any future President to use the military to restore domestic order WITHOUT the consent of the nation's governors."
Senator Leahy went on to stress that, "we certainly do not need to make it easier for Presidents to declare martial law. Invoking the Insurrection Act and using the military for law enforcement activities goes against some of the central tenets of our democracy. One can easily envision governors and mayors in charge of an emergency having to constantly look over their shoulders while someone who has never visited their communities gives the orders."
A few weeks later, on the 29th of September, Leahy entered into the Congressional Record that he had "grave reservations about certain provisions of the fiscal Year 2007 Defense Authorization Bill Conference Report," the language of which, he said, "subverts solid, longstanding posse comitatus statutes that limit the military's involvement in law enforcement, thereby making it easier for the President to declare martial law." This had been "slipped in," Leahy said, "as a rider with little study," while "other congressional committees with jurisdiction over these matters had no chance to comment, let alone hold hearings on, these proposals."
In a telling bit of understatement, the Senator from Vermont noted that "the implications of changing the (Posse Comitatus) Act are enormous". "There is good reason," he said, "for the constructive friction in existing law when it comes to martial law declarations. Using the military for law enforcement goes against one of the founding tenets of our democracy. We fail our Constitution, neglecting the rights of the States, when we make it easier for the President to declare martial law and trample on local and state sovereignty."
Senator Leahy's final ruminations: "Since hearing word a couple of weeks ago that this outcome was likely, I have wondered how Congress could have gotten to this point. It seems the changes to the Insurrection Act have survived the Conference because the Pentagon and the White House want it."
The historic and ominous re-writing of the Insurrection Act, accomplished in the dead of night, which gives Bush the legal authority to declare martial law, is now an accomplished fact.
The Pentagon, as one might expect, plays an even more direct role in martial law operations. Title XIV of the new law, entitled, "Homeland Defense Technology Transfer Legislative Provisions," authorizes "the Secretary of Defense to create a Homeland Defense Technology Transfer Consortium to improve the effectiveness of the Department of Defense (DOD) processes for identifying and deploying relevant DOD technology to federal, State, and local first responders."
In other words, the law facilitates the "transfer" of the newest in so-called "crowd control" technology and other weaponry designed to suppress dissent from the Pentagon to local militarized police units. The new law builds on and further codifies earlier "technology transfer" agreements, specifically the 1995 DOD-Justice Department memorandum of agreement achieved back during the Clinton-Reno regime.(4)
It has become clear in recent months that a critical mass of the American people have seen through the lies of the Bush administration; with the president's polls at an historic low, growing resistance to the war Iraq, and the Democrats likely to take back the Congress in mid-term elections, the Bush administration is on the ropes. And so it is particularly worrying that President Bush has seen fit, at this juncture to, in effect, declare himself dictator.
Source:
(1) http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200609/091906a.html and http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200609/092906b.html See also, Congressional Research Service Report for Congress, "The Use of Federal Troops for Disaster Assistance: Legal Issues," by Jennifer K. Elsea, Legislative Attorney, August 14, 2006
(2) http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill+h109-5122
(3) Journal of Counterterrorism & Homeland Security International, "Recent Contract Awards", Summer 2006, Vol.12, No.2, pg.8; See also, Peter Dale Scott, "Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps," New American Media, January 31, 2006.
(4) "Technology Transfer from defense: Concealed Weapons Detection", National Institute of Justice Journal, No 229, August, 1995, pp.42-43.
This is my take on the whole election in a way I am glad obama won. This country is in a financial crisis and I don't care who got elected they will not change much in 4 years.
If Mcain won he would have held it at bay but that would not have made the american people happy. People are impatient they want it now. obama let his mouth over load his ass plain and simple. If any president could ever end up with a lower approval rating than bush it is obama.
The democratic party is about to implode over the next few years they can not deliver anything they have promised. If Mcain would have won democrats would be pointing fingers and blaming him. The democrats will have nobody to blame when it all comes crashing down over the next few years.
Truer words have never been spoken. That being said let obama run with it he is on a course of self destruction. All the supporters who think they are going to get something for free are about to get the biggest awakening of their pitiful life.
Nothing in life is free and america is about to find that out the hard way let the games begin. I predict the republicans will take back the house next election and possibly the senate. obama is going to get slaughtered 4 years from now since he can't keep one promise he has made.
One thing I have learned in my life is NEVER let your mouth over load your ass. It will come back to bite you every time.
I hope to god you are right in everything you said.
What foxtrot said is right on. Just recently a company I used to work for collapsed. They were mostly cali cased so mostly dems lost their jobs. still waiting on the bankruptcy lawsuit to finalize and hopefully I will get paid...[Rant1]
roman gnome
11-06-2008, 01:13
Originally Posted by HunterCO...
I tend to agree that the pendulum will swing back ,
but in the meantime this really scares me...
http://www.wdcpix.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/House/050608-Pelosi-316.jpg
just got this at work it fits perfectly
http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp195/crankgoboom/af29dd9.jpg
Anybody got a scanner or a way to find out if there was a 911 call? .
Try this on your computer. It works pretty good up here in Arvada. You can set it up for your area. Have fun
http://co.scanamerica.us/index.php
One thing I have learned in my life is NEVER let your mouth over load your ass. It will come back to bite you every time.
[Beer] I can't wait for day that everybody has a bumper sticker saying it's OBAMAS FAULT, NOT MY PRESIDENT, BABY KILLER LOL IT goes on and on [ROFL1]
I was thinking about it, and I really think in order to vote you need to have at least a high school diploma, or at a minimum a GED except for those over 40
What about those of us that turn 18 in High school?
My Birthday was such that I missed the cut off date so, 20 days after I started My Senior Year, I turn 18..
In case Your wondering, I voted for Reagan,,,,
68Charger
11-06-2008, 15:14
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
at least provides some insight... he fits the profile, which means he won't have a clue how to do the job, he's just after the power...
so perhaps he's just a figurehead puppet for powers of the Dems..
last time we were in a position like this (1992), there was sweeping GOP wins in the 1994 election... so there's 2 tactics they could go for:
1) go as far left as you can in 2 years, and assume you'll lose Senate & Congress control in 2010...
2) go moderate, hoping to retain control of both houses in 2010...
which one do you think they'll chose?
and it'd never pass, but I'd love to see a rider on his "middle class tax cut" that provides credits those that don't even pay taxes...
if you take the deduction (check the box) on your IRS form... then you are de-registered to vote in the next election...
become dependent on the gov't, and you lose rights to change it...
harkens back to the days of only getting a vote if you're a landowner...
All you need is to pass idiot test. 2+2=4, how do you spell Obama. Heck, if they can wright there own name and fill out there own application form to vote. I is leroy brown and wantz to votes for da home boy.[ROFL3] Maybe pass a pee test, never mind there would be no dem. voters.
All you need is to pass idiot test. 2+2=4, how do you spell Obama. Heck, if they can wright there own name and fill out there own application form to vote. I is leroy brown and wantz to votes for da home boy.[ROFL3] Maybe pass a pee test, never mind there would be no dem. voters.
wright=write there=their there=their
[Beer]
What about those of us that turn 18 in High school?
My Birthday was such that I missed the cut off date so, 20 days after I started My Senior Year, I turn 18..
In case Your wondering, I voted for Reagan,,,,
you were/are a good man...but think of all the homeboys who dropped out of school, don't go to school, care less about school that got bussed to the polls in rural/ghetto areas who voted for obama. what about some of the illegals, or green card people who would like to see a socialist .gov
There could easily be provisions...18, signed a draft card, still in school to complete GED/diploma, then you get to vote. very easy fix.
If you won't complete those requirements, you have to wait till 40 to start voting. by that time you will have lived in the country, seen what the effects are on you and should be relatively competent enough to vote with at least some sort of idea, even if it isn't what you and I would agree with.
I am all for people having their own opinion and freedom of speech and the opportunity to vote, but I want to see people who have at least some sort of education, or been in the country long enough to know the effects.
Among other things.....what pisses me off a lot is the fact people are celebrating like this was a football game. None of them know what Obama is all about, even if it helps them. They were merely voting for a black man, or for the fact it wasn't Bush, or the fact Obama led voters to believe McCain was another Bush.
Given the popular vote numbers, i'm led to believe this country still stands a chance. By no means do i want anything to happen to this country, ever, but IF it's going to happen, let it be under Obama. The dust hasn't even settled at ground zero yet and we elected this bastard.
robsterclaw
11-07-2008, 01:41
I think all of you are wrong. He will fix the country, bring happiness and love, and even rescind the 1986 ban.
Oh hell did you see that? I need to go catch that and save it. Yep a rainbow just shot out my ass.
I guess I won't vote. I is da dumb ass. [Bang][Bang][Bang]. I only gots 3 years of trade school.
68Charger
11-08-2008, 22:34
found this on accident...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_aIvfFq3BA&feature=related
and:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTp_atr2G9E&feature=related
he was shutdown by:Americans United for Separation of Church and State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_United_for_Separation_of_Church_and_Stat e), who filed a complaint with the Internal Revenue Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_Revenue_Service) objecting to alleged violations of laws granting tax-free status to churches on condition that they refrain from certain forms of political activity...
501(c)(3) organizations are allowed to take a stance on issues, but NOT on canidates, to retain their tax exempt status
what's really amusing, is this preacher is a classic "black racist" normally, but he hasn't been snowed by Obama-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_David_Manning
but he was fought by Obama's zombies...
instead of using this as evidence to remove race as an issue to his opinion, they tried to shut him down on flawed legal technicalities..
the founding fathers didn't indicate separation of church & state because they were afraid of the church's influence on the church, but the state's influence on the church and state's influence on choice of church..
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