Jets fire Tebow

[rockhound]

http://tiny.iavian.net/x4b (http://tiny.iavian.net/x4b)
http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/9222870/new-york-jets-cut-tim-tebow-source


The Jets had given permission this offseason to Tebow's agent, Jimmy Sexton, to try to seek a trade, a source familiar with situation said. More than one team reached out to see whether Tebow was willing to switch positions from quarterback to tight end, but he was not.


posted 10/10/2011 by me:
personally i think he is built and has the athletic ability to be a great tight end receiver. good hands and decent speed.

[sniper7]

Who?

[Punkface]

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[rockhound]

That was fast photoshopping

[Singlestack]

Unfortunately I don't see an NFL team picking up TBO and designing an offense around him, like Mike McCoy did a couple years ago. Just far too risky in today's NFL. Guessing TBO will either go to CFL, or else come to the conclusion that he needs to change position if he wants to play in NFL. Otherwise, maybe broadcasting or something else?

[MrPrena]

Tebow made football more exciting for me at least.

[waxthis]

He will be in CFL by next week...

[spqrzilla]

Global Warming made the Jets terminate Tebow.

[funkymonkey1111]

i seem to remember this guy as one that took the broncos exactly as far into the playoffs as Manning did. (well, i guess Manning got to play two extra OTs).

[clublights]

i seem to remember this guy as one that took the broncos exactly as far into the playoffs as Manning did. (well, i guess Manning got to play two extra OTs).


EXACTLY!!!!!

[cstone]

i seem to remember this guy as one that took the broncos exactly as far into the playoffs as Manning did. (well, i guess Manning got to play two extra OTs).

For less money and was more interesting to watch. Kind of like a train wreck... great when it doesn't happen, but you know it's coming eventually.

[Delfuego]

Hysterical! Well played....


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[Geology Rocks]

the problem is that Tebows fame is bigger than teams can handle or want to deal with. He is a good player, but his fame is of a great player. Teams are willing to put up with Moss because he is a great receiver. Tebow never got the chance to show his talent. I think he would be unstoppable if he took a few years and just learned how to throw. haha..:)

[Hound]

i seem to remember this guy as one that took the broncos exactly as far into the playoffs as Manning did. (well, i guess Manning got to play two extra OTs).

We missed the boat on this one. He was a good QBack that could have been mentored by both Elway and Manning. When Manning breaks his neck and we have NO replacement we could have gone to TBO and gotten several rings. It would have been fun to watch. Clean cut kid, lots of potential, not a lot of drama, no attitude! He cuda been a cun-tinda!!

[rockhound]

We missed the boat on this one. He was a good QBack that could have been mentored by both Elway and Manning. When Manning breaks his neck and we have NO replacement we could have gone to TBO and gotten several rings. It would have been fun to watch. Clean cut kid, lots of potential, not a lot of drama, no attitude! He cuda been a cun-tinda!!

several rings, ha, he is not an NFL quarterback, thay have been shopping him around for months, read the article, every team that wanted him wants him does not want him as a QB, every coach in the game recognizes his lack of talent.

[def90]

So basically an average player that was jerked around by a less than average team. The Jets have no direction and will continue to suck until they get a new coach and GM.

[anaphylaxis]

I think Tebow would be awesome if he would play the position he is good at... His instance on trying to be a QB is going to has run him right out of the NFL alltogether

[CO Hugh]

A good guy, who did a great job with the broncos. Best of luck to him.

[rockhound]

Was offered a job to coach in the lingerie league. Hahahah

He was a good kid, just not a qb

[tmckay2]

I think Tebow would be awesome if he would play the position he is good at... His instance on trying to be a QB is going to has run him right out of the NFL alltogether

smart or not i don't think the guy cares. football isn't everything to him, he has been pretty clear on that.

[Dingo]

I think a huge portion of his problem is that he hasn't been allowed to mature and season in any of his positions. The next team to pick him up needs to find where his strengths lie, put him in a corresponding position to those talents, and let him develop. He may not be QB material yet (or ever), but he's got a lot of raw, untapped talent that is being stifled by being shuffled all over the place. I think teams are picking him up for the wrong reason - ie celebrity as opposed to being a good fit for the slot they stick him in.

[rockhound]

Teams have been pretty clear they want him as a TE, he wont switch positions, he said he would do whatever the teamneeded then when they said TE he said no

[palepainter]

I would be willing to bet that Tebow would still be here if he openly embraced being gay rather than a Christian. The guy never really stood a chance. I think they should have kept him around to learn from Manning.

[electronman1729]

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[funkymonkey1111]

he is not an NFL quarterback.

Never really understood why people said that. Is he the second coming of Joe Montana? Maybe not. But the guy got out there and won games. He won a playoff game. Did he do it by himself? No, but he had a huge hand in it--especially that drive against the Jets.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I don't know why people say he's not an NFL quarterback. He's produced at what matters -- winning games -- as a QB. Elway had a great arm and I understand his concern about Tebow's throwing abilities but what he and a lot of Denverites forget is that Elway often won his games in the fourth quarter (like Tebow) and Elway's scrambling is what won him a lot of those games.

[rockhound]

elway could scramble, in the end he could also throw the ball, that makes him a qb, this kid has been throwing the ball since little league and still has no arm.

[funkymonkey1111]

elway could scramble, in the end he could also throw the ball, that makes him a qb, this kid has been throwing the ball since little league and still has no arm.

I seem to remember a pass he made against the Steelers. Maybe I imagined it. No, wait--I was there and saw it in person.

[Chad4000]

^^ and at the time the steelers were what, the number 2 pass defense team that year?? and tebow beats them throwing. in the playoffs. he threw for over 300 that game....

[Jer]

I love that even now people are still whining about wanting Tebow instead of Manning. Mostly those who know NOTHING about football who seem to think that a single win is the same thing. Hilarious!

[Dave_L]

:sigh: Pitt's over confidence was what lost them that game for them. I like Tebow and wish him the best but we're much better off now then we were with Tebow. Do you REALLY think all these FA's would have come to Denver if Tebow were here instead of Manning? 8-8 vs 13-3. Same playoff result but that happens in the NFL. "Any given Sunday". Don't be a 16 year old girl with a crush on Tebow.

[buffalobo]

Statistically his first 16 games were near or better than those discussed as the greatest.


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[funkymonkey1111]

I love that even now people are still whining about wanting Tebow instead of Manning. Mostly those who know NOTHING about football who seem to think that a single win is the same thing. Hilarious!

I love how even now purported adults lack the basic reading comprehension or understanding to discern than nobody on this thread suggested that.

[Jer]

I love how even now purported adults lack the basic reading comprehension or understanding to discern than nobody on this thread suggested that.

'purpoted adult' ...pretty sure I'm an adult. But if that's something in question I'm sure I could provide a driver's license to someone to verify.

Nobody suggested that? Perhaps you need to seek the definition of 'suggested' because people have already done more than 'suggested' that in this thread.

I rooted for him to succeed when Denver drafted him but once he was no longer a Bronco I was done routing for him because I'm not a teenage girl infatuated with a boy. I'm glad he's gone as are TRUE Bronco fans. They know that Denver is WAY better off then they were this time a year ago. If 13-3 with the streak they went on to end the season (the last three quarters of the season or basically the ENTIRE season) isn't enough and the fact that Tebow was FIRED and nobody will hire him again when our current QB had the BEST QBR in the entire league for the last season by a landslide isn't enough to convince some that Denver made the right move then nothing ever will.

[Robb]

Looks like he just got picked up by the Patriots. I'm glad. Hopefully he gets some playing time. I'd love to see him do well.

[Chad4000]

^^ Totally agree..

[kawiracer14]

Looks like he just got picked up by the Patriots. I'm glad. Hopefully he gets some playing time. I'd love to see him do well.

He'll get playing time just like all other Pats backup QBs get playing time, pre-season and when Brady puts them up by 30+ points.

[Dave_L]

Lol...they didn't pick Tebow up to play QB. Bill will force him to move positions. He's going to be moved to TE to help fill in for the busted up Gronk.

[Sawin]

Lol...they didn't pick Tebow up to play QB. Bill will force him to move positions. He's going to be moved to TE to help fill in for the busted up Gronk.

I think so too, and I bet he will do well at TE.

[Jer]

Lol...they didn't pick Tebow up to play QB. Bill will force him to move positions. He's going to be moved to TE to help fill in for the busted up Gronk.

This. He's not good enough to be Brady's backup and the shitty part about this is all the Tebow bag swingers will be saying for ever now that had Bill put him at QB and given him a chance... he could have been amazing. He's not. Period. 32 teams and ALL of their player personnel that get paid billions of dollars can't all be wrong. He's a good dude, a wonderful athlete, possibly one of the greatest college players of all time (debatable) but the fact that he's NOT good enough of a passer or decision maker (while reading pro defenses & adjusting on the fly) to play at the pro level simply isn't debatable. Now, being as they are AFC rivals I pray to god that The Hoody tries the same crap that Rex Ryan did with mixing him into the game with a wildcat here and there because it's idiotic. Anyone who thinks that at any point in the game having Tebow on the field instead of Tom Fucking Brady gives you a better chance if winning is a moron of epic proportions. He will be a serviceable backup to another position with a low risk to acquire.

We get Welker and they get Tebow. I know who wins that one.

[rockhound]

i ahve been saying for three years he should be a TE

[ImNtUrBuddyGuy]

I don't get why there is so much a love and hate for and against this guy.

Part of me thinks this is just another proxy battle in the ongoing Culture Wars--with the religious and secularists using him as their hero/villain.

However, in my opinion he is a great leader, a good character guy, but a NFL QB--probably not.

[rockhound]

i think the love hate is that the people that love him think he is a good QB, [hahhah-no]

the people that hate him are just freaking tired of hearing how he just needs a chance [Puke]

[MrPrena]

Tebow meets [fist pumping] McDaniels again.


http://youtu.be/3vIOBUFRVkg?t=13s

[ChunkyMonkey]

Tebow and Pats...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/tebow-sign-patriots-article-1.1368642

[Dingo]

i think the love hate is that the people that love him think he is a good QB, [hahhah-no]

the people that hate him are just freaking tired of hearing how he just needs a chance [Puke]

LMAO...... this is so true.

[RblDiver]

I don't love him because I think he's a great QB (I think he has great potential). I love him because he's actually a good role model and a good person.

[Dingo]

I don't love him because I think he's a great QB (I think he has great potential). I love him because he's actually a good role model and a good person.

Agreed. But I'm beginning to have some doubts about the QB potential...

[Jer]

I don't love him because I think he's a great QB (I think he has great potential). I love him because he's actually a good role model and a good person.

Finally someone who is honest. Yes, he's a good person. Unfortunately that doesn't make him a professional football player. He's not only not a great QB but he's not even a good QB in a league desperate for QB's. You think he has potential and when Denver drafted him I felt the same. A few years in the league has proven otherwise unfortunately. I can't make him a good QB because he's a good dude any more than I can make a prima donna wideout shitty enough to be cut when he's actually got talent. It's a talent-based league and if you're not good you won't be playing regardless of how good of a role model you are. I would go so far as to say that his being a good role model has already given him WAY more opportunity to make himself a better QB than someone of reasonable character with similar skills. I'm sick of the Tebow Saga and will be happy when it's all over and all I have to do to not hear his name is avoid Chick-Fil-A motivation work shops.

[Ronin13]

Finally someone who is honest. Yes, he's a good person. Unfortunately that doesn't make him a professional football player. He's not only not a great QB but he's not even a good QB in a league desperate for QB's. You think he has potential and when Denver drafted him I felt the same. A few years in the league has proven otherwise unfortunately. I can't make him a good QB because he's a good dude any more than I can make a prima donna wideout shitty enough to be cut when he's actually got talent. It's a talent-based league and if you're not good you won't be playing regardless of how good of a role model you are. I would go so far as to say that his being a good role model has already given him WAY more opportunity to make himself a better QB than someone of reasonable character with similar skills. I'm sick of the Tebow Saga and will be happy when it's all over and all I have to do to not hear his name is avoid Chick-Fil-A motivation work shops.
I hate to say it, but "not even good QBs" don't make it to the playoffs... I don't think he's "great" but he's not terrible. If he were that bad why is he still in the NFL? I like him as a person, he's okay as a QB, and it might be interesting to see where this all leads, but like you say Jer, it doesn't need to be headline news all the time, he'll never be another Elway, or Montana, or even Brees.

[Jer]

I hate to say it, but "not even good QBs" don't make it to the playoffs... I don't think he's "great" but he's not terrible. If he were that bad why is he still in the NFL? I like him as a person, he's okay as a QB, and it might be interesting to see where this all leads, but like you say Jer, it doesn't need to be headline news all the time, he'll never be another Elway, or Montana, or even Brees.

He made the playoffs because he had a great team around him. Period. He can't throw the passes required to be successful at the professional level. He can't read defenses that move as fast as NFL defenses. His footwork is all wrong and gets him into trouble regularly. He quite literally possess NONE of the skills required to be an NFL QB. Listen to those who actually know the position and they all disagree with your 'not terrible' label. He's still in the NFL because he won't be a QB and to say he's still in the NFL is a stretch at that point... he hasn't even made the team yet and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he gets cut before the season even starts. I find it hard to believe that the Patriots don't have 45 players better than him that earned the right to be on the roster. To say he can play TE at the professional level having never played it is also a day dream. They already have 5 TE's so do I think he's good enough to beat them all? Hell no. They're going to work him out because Douche McDaniels is on staff... that's all that's going to happen.

[CO Hugh]

t http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/the-ultimate-clutch-player/


CULTURE WARS

THE ULTIMATE CLUTCH PLAYER

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Published: 05/19/2013 at 2:15 PMhttp://www.wnd.com/files/2011/12/Chuck-Norris_avatar.jpgby CHUCK NORRIS (http://www.wnd.com/author/cnorris/) Email (cnorris@wnd.com)| Archive (http://www.wnd.com/author/cnorris/)Chuck Norris is the star of more than 20 films and the long-running TV series "Walker, Texas Ranger." His latest book is entitled The Official Chuck Norris Fact Book." (http://superstore.wnd.com/books/The-Official-Chuck-Norris-Fact-Book-Autographed-Paperback) Learn more about his life and ministry at his official website,ChuckNorris.com (http://www.chucknorris.com/).


America has the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championships) and the UCP (Ultimate Clutch Players). One is mixed martial artists, and the other is quarterbacks of the NFL. They all are athletic warriors who are extremely determined to win.
My favorite in the UFC is Georges St. Pierre. My favorite UCP in the NFL is Tim Tebow.
I know what you are thinking: Tebow has only been in the NFL for three years. True, but Tim’s 2011 season with the Denver Broncos was one of the most remarkable in football history.
Tim Tebow for president! Get the bumper sticker at the WND Superstore. (http://superstore.wnd.com/specialty-items/Tebow-for-President-Magnetic-Easy-Off-Adhesive-Bumper-Sticker)
In 2010, the first round draft pick out of the University of Florida, signed a five-year contract with the Denver Broncos. His rookie season he played back up to then starter Kyle Orton. Orton remained the starter the following season, but after a 1-4 start, Tebow replaced him at halftime against the San Diego Chargers. After attempting to rally his team from a 16-point deficit against San Diego, Tim was named the starter for the upcoming game against the Miami Dolphins. It was in that game that we got to see Tebow work his fourth-quarter magic. Tim came back from a 15-0 disadvantage to the Dolphins and led the Broncos to an 18-15 overtime victory.
And what sportsman can ever forget how that amazing rookie quarterback then led the Broncos to six wins in their next seven games and into the playoffs, beating the highly favored Pittsburgh Steelers in a wild-card game? After finishing the game tied and going into overtime, the Broncos won the coin toss, and Tebow threw a perfect 80-yard pass on the first play to win the game 29-23. It was the Broncos’ first playoff victory in six years.
When the Broncos decided to go with another clutch player in Peyton Manning, Tim joined the New York Jets. He was brought to New York to be the backup quarterback to Mark Sanchez and run some wildcat packages.
Personally, I think the formula of rotating quarterbacks is ultimately a recipe for disaster. That system never works. There can only be one quarterback leading the team. As the old adage goes, anything with more than one head is a monster.
I have been following Tim since he became a quarterback for the Florida Gators, and I have never seen a more determined and inspiring athlete play the game of football. And I’m not alone in that sports assessment.
Akbar Gbajabiamila, analyst for NFL.com and NFL Network, explained last week in his article, “Tim Tebow’s history as a proven winner should not be ignored”: “Training camps are still a few months away, and already, every team in the NFL has made a major mistake: They’ve overlooked the winning record of Tim Tebow. … Pundits have tried to erase the success Tebow had in 2011 with the Denver Broncos, but make no mistake: it all happened. He did mount multiple fourth-quarter comebacks and notch four overtime victories; he did rush for 118 yards and throw for two touchdowns in one game; he did complete 66 percent of his passes and throw for two touchdowns in another. … In the locker room we had a word to describe that kind of personal highlight reel: ballin.’”
Forbes just released its 2013 list of Most Influential Athletes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanriper/2013/05/06/americas-most-influential-athletes-2/), and Tim Tebow leads the pack with the No. 1 ranking, followed by Manning at a distant fifth. The only other two NFL players on the list were Drew Brees(No. 6) andAaron Rodgers(No. 8).
I’ve heard the so-called critics say Tebow has poor technical skills, but the truth is that Tim is a natural-born leader, an amazingly gifted football player, an inspiration to his team and the possessor of intense determination and strategy to bring any team to victory – no matter what the odds. One can improve technique, but leadership is innate. That is why I believe Tebow could be a super star and legend in the NFL.
Take an unprecedented in-depth look at the most celebrated college football player of all time as he defies the odds and astounds critics, making the journey from two-time national champion and Heisman trophy winner to NFL rookie quarterback. (http://superstore.wnd.com/video/Tim-Tebow-Everything-In-Between-DVD)
Michael Strahan, Super Bowl champion, Fox football analyst, and now morning show host, recently commented on “The Late Show with David Letterman,” “You can’t measure heart. And you can’t measure how hard a guy’s going to work when a guy starts making money.”
Tebow has proven that he plays with all heart, and his hard work and determination is unprecedented.
Tebow is a player who rises to the occasion and delivers big in critical game moments. He reminds me of myself when I used to compete in martial arts. I would spar with my black belts in class, and sometimes they would outscore me. Yet in the tournaments, I would defeat them. My students used to ask me, “Why can we contend equally against you in class, but we can’t beat you in the tournaments?” My answer was always the same, “When it counts, I rise to the occasion.”
The same is true of the former Heisman Trophy winner: When pressure mounts and the game is on the line, Tim’s turbo turns on! It has been said, “If a quarterback came through with a clutch, final-minute victory, he pulled a ‘Tebow.’” And that is why he is the ultimate clutch player.
I believe we have just begun to see what Tim is capable of doing as one of the best among the NFL’S UCP. But a team must play him and let him lead, like the Broncos did. No warrior can prove his worth if kept from the battlefield.
So what team do I feel should give Tim the opportunity to excel as a quarterback and usher them to Super Bowl status?
My present pick would be the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Why? To put it simply, because Tim could help turn the mediocre team into a championship one. Tebow works miracles on the field, and his inclusion would embolden the spirit of the Jaguars among the team and fans.
Plus – and this has no reflection on the current quarterbacks – Tim is from Florida, where he bears a victor legacy and an extensive fan base, to boot, from his days with the Gators. Tim was raised in the Jacksonville area, where he became a high-school football star. Then his young, stellar career shot into the stratosphere when he led the University of Florida in Gainesville to some record-breaking wins. Tim won two national championships with the Gators and became the first sophomore ever to win the coveted Heisman Trophy.
So, Mr. Shad Khan – the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars, David Caldwell – their general manager and coach Gus Bradley, I would give the preceding some serious thought. Whatever you would pay Tebow would be recouped tenfold by the increase in attendance and fan base. With Tim as the quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars, they would add thousands (if not tens of thousands) of additional fans to the stadium, including me – even though I don’t live in Florida!
Only one thing that stands in the way, again as Akbar Gbajabiamila, analyst for NFL.com and NFL Network, wisely retorted: “Here’s the truth as I see it: Many coaches let pride or fear of media and fan scrutiny affect the decisions they make about star players.”
But I was reading another USA Today column last week, headlined, “Trailblazer Khan should set course for hirings.” It reported that Khan, as the first minority owner of an NFL franchise, often cites Martin Luther King Jr.’s work as a contributing factor to his success.
So let me respectfully challenge Mr. Khan to consider these words from Dr. King: “There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must take it because conscience tells him it is right.”
I know Khan, Caldwell and Bradley have talked, and they know that hiring Tebow would be right – right for them, right for the team, right for the fans and right for Florida.
Tim isn’t worried about his future. With his skillset, confidence, marketability and Christian faith, his future is rock solid and good as gold – on and off the field. As he himself has said, “I don’t know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future.”
All that is needed now is an owner, manager and coach of a football team who have the vision and faith to watch Tebow turn around their team. I guarantee that they will see positive results. I have been an athlete all of my life, being a six-time undefeated world middle weight champion in the martial arts, and I know a winner when I see one.
Tim Tebow is a winner – plain and simple!

[davsel]

When did they start giving away the Heisman Trophy to talent-less hacks? /sarc (for those who can't recognize it)

http://www.heisman.com/portraits/07.jpg
2007 - 73rd Award
Tim Tebow
Florida Quarterback

Tebow capped an unprecedented season by becoming the first sophomore in NCAA history to win the Heisman Trophy…The consummate dual-threat quarterback...A first-team All-American selection by the Associated Press. AP SEC Offensive Player of the Year...Selected as the CBS Sportsline.com National Offensive Player of the Year...Earned All-American offensive honors by the Football Writers Association of America and CBS Sportsline.com...Named to the Walter Camp Foundation 118th annual All-American Team...Garnered first-team All-American accolades by the Sporting News, SI.com, CollegeFootballNews.com and Phil Steele...ESPN.com All-American Team member...All-SEC First-team Coaches' and AP selection...Rivals.com first-team All-American, Rivals.com SEC Offensive Player of the Year and Rivals.com first-team All-SEC selection...First-team All-SEC honoree by CollegeFootballNews.com and Phil Steele...ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American first-team selection ...Three-time SEC Offensive Player of the Week following his efforts against South Carolina, Ole Miss and Troy...Walter Camp National Player of the Year finalist...A two-time Walter Camp Foundation National Offensive Player of the Week winner from his performances against Tennessee and South Carolina...An SI.com midseason All-American selection...Has accounted for 51 total touchdowns which ranks the most in a season in school history and in SEC single-season history, 29 passing and 22 rushing...

[ImNtUrBuddyGuy]

When did they start giving away the Heisman Trophy to talent-less hacks? /sarc (for those who can't recognize it)

http://www.heisman.com/portraits/07.jpg
2007 - 73rd Award
Tim Tebow
Florida Quarterback

Tebow capped an unprecedented season by becoming the first sophomore in NCAA history to win the Heisman Trophy…The consummate dual-threat quarterback...A first-team All-American selection by the Associated Press. AP SEC Offensive Player of the Year...Selected as the CBS Sportsline.com National Offensive Player of the Year...Earned All-American offensive honors by the Football Writers Association of America and CBS Sportsline.com...Named to the Walter Camp Foundation 118th annual All-American Team...Garnered first-team All-American accolades by the Sporting News, SI.com, CollegeFootballNews.com and Phil Steele...ESPN.com All-American Team member...All-SEC First-team Coaches' and AP selection...Rivals.com first-team All-American, Rivals.com SEC Offensive Player of the Year and Rivals.com first-team All-SEC selection...First-team All-SEC honoree by CollegeFootballNews.com and Phil Steele...ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American first-team selection ...Three-time SEC Offensive Player of the Week following his efforts against South Carolina, Ole Miss and Troy...Walter Camp National Player of the Year finalist...A two-time Walter Camp Foundation National Offensive Player of the Week winner from his performances against Tennessee and South Carolina...An SI.com midseason All-American selection...Has accounted for 51 total touchdowns which ranks the most in a season in school history and in SEC single-season history, 29 passing and 22 rushing...

There has been plenty of Heisman winning college football players who wound up as busts in the NFL, Tebow is not the first:

RB Ron Dayne, Wisc
QB Danny Wuerffel, another University of Florida allum (this is why UF doesn't have the best rep with producing QBs)
RB Rashan Salaam, CU Boulder
QB Jason White, OU
QB Eric Crouch, Nebraska (this guy reminds me a lot of Tebow as far as athletic QB's go)

[ImNtUrBuddyGuy]

I hate to say it, but "not even good QBs" don't make it to the playoffs... I don't think he's "great" but he's not terrible. If he were that bad why is he still in the NFL? I like him as a person, he's okay as a QB, and it might be interesting to see where this all leads, but like you say Jer, it doesn't need to be headline news all the time, he'll never be another Elway, or Montana, or even Brees.

There are plenty of QBs who have taken their teams to playoffs who weren't that good. Take a look at Rex Grossman for example (a Florida QB as well), he took his team to the Super Bowl in 2006 and the next year he was demoted from the starting QB position and now he is just your average journeyman QB.

[davsel]

I'm not your guy, friend!


Sorry, had to. It goes through my head every time I see you post. [Beer]

[Ronin13]

He made the playoffs because he had a great team around him. Period. He can't throw the passes required to be successful at the professional level. He can't read defenses that move as fast as NFL defenses. His footwork is all wrong and gets him into trouble regularly. He quite literally possess NONE of the skills required to be an NFL QB. Listen to those who actually know the position and they all disagree with your 'not terrible' label. He's still in the NFL because he won't be a QB and to say he's still in the NFL is a stretch at that point... he hasn't even made the team yet and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he gets cut before the season even starts. I find it hard to believe that the Patriots don't have 45 players better than him that earned the right to be on the roster. To say he can play TE at the professional level having never played it is also a day dream. They already have 5 TE's so do I think he's good enough to beat them all? Hell no. They're going to work him out because Douche McDaniels is on staff... that's all that's going to happen.
You do have a point, but he was not as big of a flop as oh say Jamarcus Russell (way to go on that one Oakland). He does have a natural ability to bring out the best in his team. Even with a great team how did the Broncos do so crappy with Orton but massively improved with Tebow? Simple, Tebow had passion and energy and tended to inspire guys to be their best. At least that's what I saw. Is he good enough to be in the NFL? Not my call to make, if NE puts him in and he can do something other than suck, then I guess we can't fully condemn him. But I agree, he isn't that good, but like I said, he isn't the worst to ever grace the league.

There has been plenty of Heisman winning college football players who wound up as busts in the NFL, Tebow is not the first:
RB Rashan Salaam, CU Boulder
This was perhaps the saddest thing ever. I remember watching him with great interest growing up and he being a Buff (my dad's favorite local college team- so naturally we grew up around it)... I was hoping he would have been better in the NFL, but you can take the guy out of Boulder, but you just can't take the Boulder out of the guy... Puff Puff Pass Rashaan. [LOL]

There are plenty of QBs who have taken their teams to playoffs who weren't that good. Take a look at Rex Grossman for example (a Florida QB as well), he took his team to the Super Bowl in 2006 and the next year he was demoted from the starting QB position and now he is just your average journeyman QB.
I still to this day say Tebow > Orton...

[MrPrena]

Another classic example is Troy Smith from Ohio State.
Even after reunion with Ted Ginn Jr, he still struggled....

[ImNtUrBuddyGuy]

Another classic example is Troy Smith from Ohio State.
Even after reunion with Ted Ginn Jr, he still struggled....

Hahaha, Troy Smith, he is the Tim Tebow of the Raiders!

My brother is a Raiders fan and he swears that Troy Smith would make a good QB if the Raiders only gave him a chance.

Ask any Raiders fan about Smith and they will talk your ear off about it.

[Jer]

You do have a point, but he was not as big of a flop as oh say Jamarcus Russell (way to go on that one Oakland). He does have a natural ability to bring out the best in his team. Even with a great team how did the Broncos do so crappy with Orton but massively improved with Tebow? Simple, Tebow had passion and energy and tended to inspire guys to be their best. At least that's what I saw. Is he good enough to be in the NFL? Not my call to make, if NE puts him in and he can do something other than suck, then I guess we can't fully condemn him. But I agree, he isn't that good, but like I said, he isn't the worst to ever grace the league.

This was perhaps the saddest thing ever. I remember watching him with great interest growing up and he being a Buff (my dad's favorite local college team- so naturally we grew up around it)... I was hoping he would have been better in the NFL, but you can take the guy out of Boulder, but you just can't take the Boulder out of the guy... Puff Puff Pass Rashaan. [LOL]

I still to this day say Tebow > Orton...

I never said he was the worst ever but I would come close to that statement by saying that he's the worst ever in the league to last as long as he has and still garner front-page-type discussion 5 years later when he's barely even in the league still. You bring up Jamarcus Russell and not only was he guaranteed (read: paid) much more money but he was cut sooner. We weren't all prisoner to Russell discussions that lasted hours every day on every news outlet during the entire thing either with people claiming he was the next coming of JC himself. If you ask me if I would rather take Tebow or Russell right now and I think that my answer is Jamarcus Russell. Looking at it from a neutral standpoint he's taller, passes better, has better footwork and is more prone to stay in the pocket more. He also (and this may be more important) doesn't bring the Tebow circus to town if you have him on your team. Tebow IMO has already peaked. Jamarcus Russell with a new found motivation still has some potential as he got lazy in Oakland. He's been working hard and losing weight and I would rather not take either one but if you put a gun to my head I would take Russell for a QB right now.

I hated Orton with a passion but he was still a better QB than Tebow every day of the week and twice on Sunday (game day). He lacked the emotion that Tebow had but that's not always a bad thing. Emotion didn't get the Broncos very far in the 2nd round against the Patriots... the most emotionless team in the NFL.

[rondog]

He still has more cash in the bank than any of us, yes?

[Jer]

He still has more cash in the bank than any of us, yes?

So does Snookie. Point?

[MrPrena]

Hahaha, Troy Smith, he is the Tim Tebow of the Raiders!

My brother is a Raiders fan and he swears that Troy Smith would make a good QB if the Raiders only gave him a chance.

Ask any Raiders fan about Smith and they will talk your ear off about it.


Yeah, Troy had his chance at 49ners even WITH his FAVORITE HS to NCAA favorite receiver TED GINN JR.
I still like the old OSU with Troy/Ted combo during those years. If he cannot even become successful in NFL with his near life time partner QB/WR combo, he is done.

[Ronin13]

So does Snookie. Point?
HAHAHA! I used that same logic the other day with some hippie (granted I was only expressing my opinion), I said the Grateful Dead suck, he said "Multiple albums and over 10,000 shows says otherwise." I simply responded- "Justin Beiber has sold out several shows, your point?" [Coffee]

Sorry for derail. But I will drop kick someone in the face who says we're not better off having tossed Tebow to the curb for Manning.

[rondog]

So does Snookie. Point?
Point is, we can laugh at him and make all the comments we want, but he'll still be shitting in taller cotton than the rest of us for a long, long time. And who gives a rats ass about Snookie? She'll be broke and waiting tables next year.

[Jer]

Point is, we can laugh at him and make all the comments we want, but he'll still be shitting in taller cotton than the rest of us for a long, long time. And who gives a rats ass about Snookie? She'll be broke and waiting tables next year.

If you measure your life based on net worth, sure.

[ImNtUrBuddyGuy]

Yeah, Troy had his chance at 49ners even WITH his FAVORITE HS to NCAA favorite receiver TED GINN JR.
I still like the old OSU with Troy/Ted combo during those years. If he cannot even become successful in NFL with his near life time partner QB/WR combo, he is done.

My mistake I meant Terrelle Pryor the other former Ohio State QB.

[Jer]

He made the playoffs because he had a great team around him. Period. He can't throw the passes required to be successful at the professional level. He can't read defenses that move as fast as NFL defenses. His footwork is all wrong and gets him into trouble regularly. He quite literally possess NONE of the skills required to be an NFL QB. Listen to those who actually know the position and they all disagree with your 'not terrible' label. He's still in the NFL because he won't be a QB and to say he's still in the NFL is a stretch at that point... he hasn't even made the team yet and I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he gets cut before the season even starts. I find it hard to believe that the Patriots don't have 45 players better than him that earned the right to be on the roster. To say he can play TE at the professional level having never played it is also a day dream. They already have 5 TE's so do I think he's good enough to beat them all? Hell no. They're going to work him out because Douche McDaniels is on staff... that's all that's going to happen.

Bwahahahahaha! Jer-stradamus strikes again!

So, what's the excuse this time? This is hilarious!!!

So long sucka!!

Now maybe I can get back to watching some football and not have to deal with all this days of our lives bullshit from someone who should've never even been in the league as a QB.

[Great-Kazoo]

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/114353-Tibow-cut-by-Patriots

[Jer]

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/114353-Tibow-cut-by-Patriots

I saw that after I posted here. Technically his thread is a Te-blow repost. lol

[Jer]

...besides, he didn't even spell the guy's name right.

[Stone83]

Elway will bring him back- 'bout halfway through the season.

Manning will go down, Oswilder will turn out to be worse,
and Te-BLOW will come back to make the fans happy...

just my opinion.......

[Jer]

Elway will bring him back- 'bout halfway through the season.

Manning will go down, Oswilder will turn out to be worse,
and Te-BLOW will come back to make the fans happy...

just my opinion.......

Your opinion isn't worth a hobo's turd then. Manning is healthier than he's been, maybe ever, and coming off of his best statistical season ever and he wasn't even as healthy as he is now. Osweiler has been looking better and better every time I see him play and given more time behind Manning to develop with this group he has around him he'll be more than adequate. It should be noted that before he was even drafted he was able to make the passes that Tebow STILL can't. Passes that are required as a minimum to be successful in this league. Lastly, the third string rookie QB they have on their roster now, Zac Dysert, is already a better passer than Tebow ever will be. That's why Denver kept him on their 53 man roster when most teams carry two QB's... because he looks that good already. Fret not for Denver's future because Elway and Fox have this QB thing figured out better than anyone else in the league.. save for maybe New England because their backup might be better than our backup. With no 3rd though they're in trouble (or having to see what's left over for a new backup) should Brady really injure his knee.

Your opinion huh? Care to put your money where your mouth is? I'll give you some unheard of odds.

[Tinelement]

Your opinion isn't worth a hobo's turd then. Manning is healthier than he's been, maybe ever, and coming off of his best statistical season ever and he wasn't even as healthy as he is now. Osweiler has been looking better and better every time I see him play and given more time behind Manning to develop with this group he has around him he'll be more than adequate. It should be noted that before he was even drafted he was able to make the passes that Tebow STILL can't. Passes that are required as a minimum to be successful in this league. Lastly, the third string rookie QB they have on their roster now, Zac Dysert, is already a better passer than Tebow ever will be. That's why Denver kept him on their 53 man roster when most teams carry two QB's... because he looks that good already. Fret not for Denver's future because Elway and Fox have this QB thing figured out better than anyone else in the league.. save for maybe New England because their backup might be better than our backup. With no 3rd though they're in trouble (or having to see what's left over for a new backup) should Brady really injure his knee.

Your opinion huh? Care to put your money where your mouth is? I'll give you some unheard of odds.

Aaron Rodgers.

GO PACK GO!!



Suck it!
[gohome]

[Jer]

Aaron Rodgers.

GO PACK GO!!



Suck it!
[gohome]

Who's their backup? Who's their 3rd string guy? That's my point. I wasn't just referring to a starter... I'm saying they have the QB position figured out better than maybe anybody in the league. I mean, they have three so right there they're ahead of most teams since they only have two. Their three are quite decent and I can think of a few teams that after three or four games into the season would beg for our 2nd and 3rd string options.

Aaron Rodgers is phenomenal man. I'm not a hater so I can appreciate talent when I see it regardless of what jersey it has on... that is unless it's a Raider's jersey of course. lol

[Stone83]

My post was a joke, jackass.....

And thank you for YOUR opinion......[fyou]

[Jer]

My post was a joke, jackass.....

And thank you for YOUR opinion......[fyou]

Well in that case.... Hilarious!! [thumbdown]