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buckshotbarlow
04-30-2013, 09:41
Ok, we had an awful day at the range the other day. Our club picked up some bullets from a individual who shoots at SHFC who has his class6 or class7, can't remember which one is for ammo manufacturing but anyway, talk about junk. We had 7 students using his ammo, and about 100 dud's out of 700rds. Primers were set so frig'n deep that only the competition guns with extended firing pins work (my cz shadow, and 2xg34, another instructors g34). My 4 g17's had fits, 24/7 pro, SW M&P's... So, 2 move on...

Berry's has this tip in stock and for sale:
http://www.berrysmfg.com/product-i14928-c120-g8-b0-p0-38_SUPER_356_135gr_RN___1000ct_.aspx

I'm wondering if any of you have ran this tip in reloads for a glock 9mm? According to hodgdon, I could hillbilly (start low, work up blah blah blah) a load up, to shoot using the following data:



130 GR. BERB RN

Hodgdon
Titegroup
.356"
1.150"
3.5
895
27,400 PSI




130 GR. BERB RN

Hodgdon
HS-6
.356"
1.150"
5.9
970
28,300 PSI




130 GR. BERB RN

IMR
700-X
.356"
1.150"
3.5
904
26,300 PSI




What I'm looking for is a load to reliably cycle and make a 6 hour range time 6 hours. NOT frig'n 9 hours because of failure to feed, double feeds etc etc on beginner students...Any help on this would be nice.

Great-Kazoo
04-30-2013, 10:10
4.0 Titegroup / 115 9mm berrys plated / 1.140 OAL Depending on the pistol 3.8 low side and 4.2 high for reliable cycling. Best is the 4.0 for Glock, Sig, H&K, Walther P99 S&W M&Pc

I have some of those and some 125 MG's loaded to the same spec if you'd like to road test a few. I've switched from 115's to 125's for all around use. The load data from Hogdon's is the same 115 or 125.
FWIW: it's an 06 for ammo mfg, which i have paperwork ready to mail to ATF.

buckshotbarlow
04-30-2013, 10:51
So these tips shouldn't have an issue? IE, 38 super tips in a 9mm?

.356 vs .355 in a G-lock?

Great-Kazoo
04-30-2013, 11:25
So these tips shouldn't have an issue? IE, 38 super tips in a 9mm?

.356 vs .355 in a G-lock?

My concern is availability as they show Discontinued. I use 9mm projos for 9mm loads. Also, you work up a nice load for all the 9's and then have no more access to that bullet. defeats the purpose of finding "that load"

buckshotbarlow
04-30-2013, 14:14
it's just that you can buy them from there right now...

Hoser
04-30-2013, 15:27
I have shot tens of thousands of .356 bullets in a .355 bore over the years.

It isnt an issue until you start loading +P+ ammo.

SA Friday
04-30-2013, 20:34
I have shot tens of thousands of .356 bullets in a .355 bore over the years.

It isnt an issue until you start loading +P+ ammo.

I would agree the size difference isn't an issue, but i had fits getting plated to fly out of my G34 and G17 straight. Poly rifling really wants the right hardness to grab on to. Last stuff I tried was .355 plated and sucked donkey balls. The .356 might be better, but I just don't play with plated in my Glocks anymore.

buckshotbarlow
04-30-2013, 20:47
kewl guys thanks...ordering up some tomorrow...super 1050 is primed and ready...