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Sixgun
11-10-2008, 21:28
I have a deal on a mp15t..223. Does anyone have on and like it. Are the Smiths good rifles?
Hoser
11-10-2008, 22:28
I have heard a lot of good things about them.
Gman
11-10-2008, 22:37
It's a good gun.
micah360
11-11-2008, 09:22
One thing to check on those is to make sure that your PMags seat in the magwell. I had one that was out of spec and PMags didn't seat all the way in. I had to dremel some material off of the mag(s) to fit right. So take a PMag along when you check the rifle out.

But... I guess I'm assuming that you'll be using PMags... if not don't worry about it. [AR15]
DocMedic
11-11-2008, 09:49
I'll tell you this much, they don't like to be ran dry lol :P. Pmag thing could be an issue, but you can solve this either by using a dremel and rounding some plastic off the sides of the pmag (cheap way) or you can buy a new lower (not Cheap way) Other then that I got about 1000 rounds through mine with maybe 3-4 hic-ups due to running to dry on lube.
Sixgun
11-11-2008, 10:50
How would you rate them to a RRA?
Thanks for the help.
DocMedic
11-11-2008, 12:33
I have a deal on a mp15t..223. Does anyone have on and like it. Are the Smiths good rifles?


How would you rate them to a RRA?
Thanks for the help.

Well I don't know, its hard for me to compare a complete kitted rifle to another completed kit rifle. the MP15T comes with Troy Rail system, and Troy Flip up back and front sights which alot of people highly praise, and very warrented as they are real nice and snap to place with just a finger. The barrel is a true float barrel as far as i'm aware of since what I can see that the barrel only touches the Upper. its also a little heavier due to the Troy rail system, which isn't that big of a deal.

Personally you probably can build the same rifle for cheaper the MSRB but I bought it because I heard good reviews through Magazines and such, and the thing is built sturdy everything is correctly stacked. My only gripe is that I have one of the first production MP15T so the lower doesn't like Magpuls which I have 6 of. but nothing you can't fix with a dremel.
Sixgun
11-11-2008, 13:20
New S&W have mag problem fixed? Gun hasn't left factory yet. I'm getting it for cost. Dad best friend, my other daddy[Tooth] is direct dealer in Pa. I just have always liked RRA over anything else. With the current price hike on the RRA's, Smiths are still in my price range at cost. [Bang]
Hoser
11-11-2008, 14:01
Rock River makes some really good AR-15. As good or maybe better than a Smith.

Smith doesent have the track record that others do.

Keep in mind that Camp Perry was won with a Smith based AR-15. Story here. http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/bernosky-wins-camp-perry-high-power-championship/
DocMedic
11-11-2008, 15:12
New S&W have mag problem fixed? Gun hasn't left factory yet. I'm getting it for cost. Dad best friend, my other daddy[Tooth] is direct dealer in Pa. I just have always liked RRA over anything else. With the current price hike on the RRA's, Smiths are still in my price range at cost. [Bang]

Yep, S&W newer models went with another companies lower then what they used in the first production models. And I heard cases where you could reship your rifle back to S&W and they would replace it for you free, but I don't have the urdge to do all that work just so I can use Pmags, when i can just grind a little plastic to make it work.
Gman
11-11-2008, 20:12
S&W has a great service organization. If you're having an issue, I'd call them and see what they say. I've had pistols repaired at no charge to me, including shipping. They sent me a FedEx return tag. I even bent the slide stop spring on my SW99 .45. I sent it back, included my CC information so they could charge me for my screw up. They fixed it free of charge.

I believe the early guns were built by CMT/Stag. The current guns are being produced in-house.
VolksDragon
11-14-2008, 01:24
FYI, Stag makes the S&W rifles. Nothing wrong with that...
car-15
11-16-2008, 09:08
below is a link to a chart that compares some of the major mfg's. and iirc s&w's ar's have been in house since they took over t/c.
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642
mightymouse
11-16-2008, 10:00
Keep in mind that Camp Perry was won with a Smith based AR-15. Story here. http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/bernosky-wins-camp-perry-high-power-championship/

'Ain't nothin stock about stock car racing son' - Harry Hogge in "Days of Thunder"

The only thing 'AR' on that rifle is that it happens to be made of aluminum.