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TheGrey
05-04-2013, 11:09
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/05/04/Kansas-Law-Felony-To-Enforce-Federal-Gun-Control

The Hill reports (http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/court-battles/297737-holder-v-brownback-doj-and-kansas-on-collision-course-over-gun-law?utm_source=feedly) that Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback just signed into law a statute that "bars the federal government from regulating guns and ammunition manufactured and stored within Kansas state lines."Moreover, the new law makes it a felony for federal authorities to attempt to enforce federal gun control laws, treaties, or rules related to firearms within Kansas state lines. Federal agents would not be arrested but will be prosecuted on "a complaint-and-summons basis."
Naturally, U.S. Attorney general Eric Holder is furious. Already he has sent a letter to Brownback promising, “The United States will take all appropriate action, including litigation if necessary, to prevent the State of Kansas from interfering with the activities of federal officials enforcing the law.”
Holder cites the Constitution's Supremacy Clause, which gives supremacy to federal laws over state laws.
Kansas, however, is citing the Interstate Commerce Clause, "contending that Washington has no right regulate guns that were made in Kansas and never cross state lines."
The play Kansas is making is to keep its gun business within the state, which they believe nullifies the federal government's legal right to regulate. Guns and ammunition would be manufactured, stored, and sold only in Kansas.
Kansas Attorney General Kris Kobach, a former constitutional law professor, helped to write the law and says that the bill is not symbolic; it was written carefully and with the purpose of surviving a court challenge.
Using cherry-picked suspect polls, Democrats and their media have now entered month six of a relentless, self-defeating campaign. So bitter and humiliated are they over the Senate loss of Toomey-Manchin, they have forgotten that the gun debate is always a plus for Republicans and a loser for Democrats.
For proof of how badly the political right wants to keep the gun control issue alive, look no further than the law the state of Kansas just passed to intentionally provoke this fight. Furthermore, look at the flurry similar bills currently being proposed in 28 states.

bgouker
05-04-2013, 11:13
That is why we are relocating to Kansas as soon as possible.

BushMasterBoy
05-04-2013, 11:18
The fed will bully Kansas by withholding fed funds. It is all about the money. If you are rich (Bill Gates) or well placed (Obama), you have bodyguards. If you are average person, good luck defending yourself from criminals. The federal government has run off its rails, as the recent attack in Boston will show. They need to stop trying to legislate solutions and instead implement solutions. Ok...who ate all my suppositories?

Kraven251
05-04-2013, 12:49
Thank you Kansas. ...now hopefully 28 other states follow suit, that should send enough of a message.

CroiDhubh
05-04-2013, 12:54
Eric Holder is already hounding on them saying them doing this is unconstitutional. Holder obviously has never read the Constitution...

nynco
05-04-2013, 13:11
If the state of Kanasas produces the ammo and firearms then the fed gov should shut up. Just like the pot issue.

SideShow Bob
05-04-2013, 13:13
And some members rag on me for being from the flatlands to the east.........[Coffee]

cstone
05-04-2013, 13:42
Did the AG send the same letter to Colorado regarding marijuana possession and use?

Firehaus
05-04-2013, 16:16
How will this effect NFA items made in Kansas, sold in Kansas?

CroiDhubh
05-04-2013, 17:24
It's about new federal laws, not existing ones

sabot_round
05-04-2013, 19:10
Eric Holder is already hounding on them saying them doing this is unconstitutional. Holder obviously has never read the Constitution... You think?? Holder doesn't care about the Constitution, he only cares about kissing his messiah's ass!!

buckshotbarlow
05-04-2013, 19:15
Pure political porn to my ears...

ben4372
05-04-2013, 20:50
Sounds a lot like the Montana law. I thought that one actually addressed NFA stuff. I think it would be legal as long as it was in state and not intended for export. I didn't think Kansas was so aggressively pro gun.

Hound
05-04-2013, 21:41
Maybe we can get something like that here in 2014....maybe?

centrarchidae
05-04-2013, 23:23
I don't have it in front of me, but there's at least one SCOTUS case (which cites the Constitution's Supremacy Clause as authority) which holds Federal agents immune to prosecution or suit in state courts or under state law, when they're working within the scope of their Federal authority.

I think that's what Holder was talking about.

centrarchidae
05-04-2013, 23:24
I don't have it in front of me, but there's at least one SCOTUS case (which cites the Constitution's Supremacy Clause as authority) which holds Federal agents immune to prosecution or suit in state courts or under state law, when they're working within the scope of their Federal authority.

I think that's what Holder was talking about.

I wouldn't guess that spqrzilla or Sharpienads probably knows the case I'm talking about, cold.

Bentsight
05-06-2013, 10:22
Some additional info and our AG calling him out

http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/05/kansas-to-eric-holder-were-not-backing-down/

Ronin13
05-06-2013, 12:04
Did the AG send the same letter to Colorado regarding marijuana possession and use?
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