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coastie.av8tor
05-04-2013, 13:46
I need some help please. I'm active duty military and am a Florida Resident. How do I purchase a gun in today's crazy political climate? Everything I read from the ATF, the NRA, and the Colorado gov sites states that I have to be a Colorado Resident or a resident of an adjacent state. Also, from what I read in the trading post, I have to be a resident to execute a FTF sale. Big 5 wouldn't sell me a shotgun on sale because I'm a Florida resident. The only gun transaction I've completed is a purchase from Pennsylvania that I had Blucor Shooting Center handle, and that went fine except that it overlapped into the $10 background check passing, so I had to pony up $10 extra, but no biggie, I got my rifle.
If someone has a link, or anything, I'd really appreciate it. I've got until January before I get transferred, and I've got my eyes on some new toys!
Are you on active duty with orders that post you in Co? I am pretty sure that you can use those to establish residency.
CroiDhubh
05-04-2013, 14:06
Long guns you can do with just your state ID, handguns will require a copy of your orders.
SideShow Bob
05-04-2013, 14:07
Copy of your orders showing permanent duty station in CO. And military ID, and you shouldn't have any problems, with the exception of the uniformed jerks at the Big 5 stores....
Aloha_Shooter
05-04-2013, 14:25
What SideShow Bob said. I was a Florida "resident" for tax and voting purposes when I was A/D but allowed to purchase guns as a Colorado resident (and make sure you say Colorado on the 4473) by showing my PCS orders and a current Mil ID.
baglock1
05-04-2013, 18:27
In the case of a FTF sale, unless they're uber paranoid, your ID (sometimes your orders) and this should suffice:
Q: What constitutes residency in a State?
The State of residence is the State in which an individual is present; the individual also must have an intention of making a home in that State. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. An alien who is legally in the United States is considered to be a resident of a State only if the alien is residing in that State and has resided in that State continuously for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale of the firearm. See also Item 5, “Sales to Aliens in the United States,” in the General Information section of this publication.
[18 U.S.C. 921(b), 922(a) (3), and 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.11]
From here:
http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons
sabot_round
05-04-2013, 18:43
In the case of a FTF sale, unless they're uber paranoid, your ID (sometimes your orders) and this should suffice:
From here:
http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons
As Baglock1 and SideShow Bob stated, all you need is a copy of your PCS orders assigning you to FT/AB "jackass" and your .mil ID card, and you'll be good to go. Some dealers might ask you for a DL too but no big deal. As long as you are a member of the .mil pursuant to mil orders you are good to go.
If you have some sort of bill with your address on it, that would be a good thing to take in addition to what the others stated.
sabot_round
05-04-2013, 19:00
If you have some sort of bill with your address on it, that would be a good thing to take in addition to what the others stated.
He doesn't need that shit!!
He doesn't need that shit!!
Yes but a liberal will pass a law that requires it....
sabot_round
05-04-2013, 19:35
Yes but a liberal will pass a law that requires it....
Lets not give them any ideas please!!
baglock1
05-04-2013, 20:52
In summary...
At the LGS, take your ID and a copy of your PCS orders. On the 4473, list CO as your state of residence, regardless of what it says on your DL. The LGS do it all the time. They know the drill (if they don't, leave... quickly).
For a FTF, tell the guy exactly what the situation is prior to meeting. I can understand if a guy will balk if he sees my Florida DL, even if it has a Colorado address on it (and yes, mine does) so I always bring it up prior to anyone wasting gas on the trip. Direct them to the BATF website if necessary. 9/10, they look at my .mil ID and they're satisfied. The other guys look at my FL DL and see the CO address and they're happy. The key is early communication. FTF deals can be a little nerve wracking when dealing with someone you don't know. Surprises don't help anything.
coastie.av8tor
05-04-2013, 21:28
Copy of your orders showing permanent duty station in CO. And military ID, and you shouldn't have any problems, with the exception of the uniformed jerks at the Big 5 stores....
Yeah, Big 5 won't sell to me. They have a sweet sale going on through tomorrow for a cheap shottie. I guess they don't get my money.
coastie.av8tor
05-04-2013, 21:29
Thanks for the tips everyone, from in store to FTF purchases. It's so much easier acquiring info here then it is from the 'legal' websites. You all rock! Cheers! [Coffee]
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