IS IT LOADED?? Follow up to :::Do you have a fire arm with in arms reach?

[Great-Kazoo]

Since there was some DEBATE in another thread because [some thought] you should not have a loaded gun in the home. I would ask.
IF you have a gun within reach, on your hip, ANYWHERE there is RAPID ACQUISITION.
IS IT LOADED / CHAMBERED??

LETS NOT GET IN TO a 4 paragraph diatribe why you do or DO NOT have one LOADED a simple YES or NO ..
OR I'LL ASK THE MODS TO LOCK IT.
Lets see how long this goes before a reply goes beyond 3-4 word sentences. No bashing anyone's replies etc.


YES.......

[Bailey Guns]

Handguns = Yes.
Rifle = No. (Loaded mag in the well)

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Yes.

[Special Ed]

Yes

[zulu01]

Yes.

[buckshotbarlow]

all long guns have mags in, nothing in the pipe in the various rooms.
bedside gun has loaded mag, nothing in the pipe
ccw x2 ready for a romparu
long story short...yes

[brokenscout]

Yes

[Kraven251]

Of Course.

[Sparky]

No

[kwando]

Si

[glock21]

No

[roberth]

Yes.

[ChuckNorris]

Yes

[HoneyBadger]

Loaded, not chambered. I've incorporated racking the slide into my draw so its one fluid motion.

[muddywings]

yes

[Sawin]

I'm a product of the 80's so my answer is "duh". (yes)

The nightstand and ccw rig is never unloaded unless I'm cleaning it or rapidly reloading. Long guns however, are not loaded unless I'm at the range. A handful of mags are, and they live in the safe with the long guns...

[Dave]

If it's on my person for CCW then it's loaded. Bedside pistol has a mag in but no round chambered and the shotgun has rounds in the pistol safe on the nightstand. Guns in the safe have loaded mags next to them or on the shelf right above the rifles. Still have a 16 year old, so I'm not wanting to risk the whole minor having access to a loaded weapon deal that can land me in jail or getting sued. I trust the wife's kids since I take them to the range, took them to hunter's safety and have promised a severe ass kicking if they touch a gun without an adult around. It's their friends that I know come from liberal households and if they saw a gun would either go tell their parents that evil guns are in the house and it's unsafe or they'd pick one up and blow their own head off somehow.

[Great-Kazoo]

If it's on my person for CCW then it's loaded. Bedside pistol has a mag in but no round chambered and the shotgun has rounds in the pistol safe on the nightstand. Guns in the safe have loaded mags next to them or on the shelf right above the rifles. Still have a 16 year old, so I'm not wanting to risk the whole minor having access to a loaded weapon deal that can land me in jail or getting sued. I trust the wife's kids since I take them to the range, took them to hunter's safety and have promised a severe ass kicking if they touch a gun without an adult around. It's their friends that I know come from liberal households and if they saw a gun would either go tell their parents that evil guns are in the house and it's unsafe or they'd pick one up and blow their own head off somehow.

16 replies........Thanks.

LETS NOT GET IN TO a 4 paragraph diatribe why you do or DO NOT have one LOADED a simple YES or NO ..

[cstone]

Yes.

[HoneyBadger]

16 replies........Thanks.

LETS NOT GET IN TO a 4 paragraph diatribe why you do or DO NOT have one LOADED a simple YES or NO ..


Should have made it a poll

[davsel]

I'm a product of the 80's so my answer is "duh". (yes)


^^^ +1

[earplug]

yes

[KestrelBike]

Yup

[bigshane]

YES, at hand... loaded & chambered.

(IN hand a few hours ago when some douchey late Cinco de Mayan drove by at 4am demonstrating his manly trigger-finger)

[Boadie30]

Yes on hip

[bnred9]

Yes

[buffalobo]

Same as other thread.

Yes.

Sent from my DROID Pro using Tapatalk 2

[Monky]

Yes


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

[Tinelement]

Yes

[TFOGGER]

Affirmative.

[BigBear]

Loaded, not chambered, except CCW.

[Holger Danske]

Yes

[mtnhack]

Yes,
2 pistolas chambered, 1 with speedloader handy and the rest with mags nearby.
Shotty chambered
Rifles, mags in

[lowbeyond]

yep.

[Chad4000]

yes

[Rooskibar03]

Handgun-yes.
Shotgun-yes.
Rifle-a pull of the charging handle and its GTG.

[blacklabel]

Yep.

[Bailey Guns]

SAFETY INFO ONLY...not meant to start an argument. For those of you who think you can chamber a round when needed:

Not Chambered = Unloaded

You should really consider a plan to load your gun one-handed in a life-threatening emergency and incorporate that into your training in the event your weak hand is preoccupied/disabled.

[Dave_L]

I don't take my carry weapon off until bedtime. It is loaded at all times.

[Ronin13]

EDC- Always.
Shotgun next to desk- No, but has 5 shells in the carrier and 5 more in the desk drawer next to it. [Beer]

[rondog]

Handguns = Yes.
Rifle = No. (Loaded mag in the well)

This. 1911=con 1, M1 Carbine=con 3.

[BlasterBob]

Loaded - of course.
Chambered - nope.

[Sawin]

Loaded - of course.
Chambered - nope.

That's an oxymoron. ;P If it's not chambered, it's not loaded.

[Digi]

Anything strategically placed around the house and EDC always loaded and chambered.
Anything in storage usually loaded but not chambered.

[HoneyBadger]

That's an oxymoron. ;P If it's not chambered, it's not loaded.
Just to irk Jim...


loaded = rounds in the magazine, but no rounds chambered.

[Sawin]

Just to irk Jim...


loaded = rounds in the magazine, but no rounds chambered.

Jim's gonna get cranky. haha.

[ford_muscle1]

Yes.

[Great-Kazoo]

Jim's gonna get crankyER. haha.

[BlasterBob]

Just to irk Jim...


loaded = rounds in the magazine, but no rounds chambered.

Yep!! Like if there is only one (1) round in the cylinder of a six shot revolver and that round will NOT be in line with the barrel the next time the trigger is pulled/squeezed, I believe that firearm is still considered "LOADED". Right?? Same difference.

[Bailey Guns]

^^ Not if you're in UT! (Going for max crankiness)

[newracer]

2 pistols in bedside safe are loaded, one is my daily carry pistol
another pistol in larger safe is loaded
rifle in the same safe has a loaded magazine but not one in the chamber

[Great-Kazoo]

^^ Not if you're in UT! (Going for max crankiness)

Correct.

Loaded is ammo in firearm. Chambered is HOT, finger off trigger.

[kawiracer14]

Sometimes

[Skywalker]

yes, yes and yes!

[tmleadr03]

You know Jim, I just never even considered that there would be a question about having a loaded firearm to protect oneself with. If you don't have a round in the chamber what you have in essence is a unwieldy rock to throw at an attacker. Just having rounds in a magazine does not make a firearm loaded. It just makes it heavier. I personally always have a round in the chamber. I can draw one hand and shoot. I don't need to try to rack a round using my pants to try to build enough friction on the slide to get it to go all the way back. God forbid I had to do that in shorts! OW!

I see that someone mentioned that you practice drawing and racking all in one fluid motion, is that one handed? What are you a ninja? Please take a video of that and post it, I would love to see. Keep in mind that if you have to draw your firearm you are going to be in a high stress situation, adrenaline dump and everthing. Fine motor skills are going to be difficult at best. So the less fine motor movements you have to make the better you are.

Total side note, how many hear practice on a regular basis firing with their off hand only? If I pull a gun, chances are there are bullets flying back at me and I may get hit but still be able to fire. I practice one handed all the time. (Thats what she said) Left and right. I really need to put a few more thousand rounds through the pistol left handed though. Kinda sloppy and slow on that side. Makes me Jim when I miss a target, even left handed.

I do realize that many of us have young ones in the house, it would be better to get one of those biometric safes and keep a loaded firearm in that, then an unloaded one on our person. And I am meaning one in the chamber of course. I have been meaning to get one for the house myself. Really need to get on that. Figure I can lock it to the bed and have it right there should I need it.









So... Jim, was that what you didn't want to see? Crankier yet? LOL[ROFL2]

[wctriumph]

YES

[Great-Kazoo]

You know Jim, I just never even considered that there would be a question about having a loaded firearm to protect oneself with. If you don't have a round in the chamber what you have in essence is a unwieldy rock to throw at an attacker. Just having rounds in a magazine does not make a firearm loaded. It just makes it heavier. I personally always have a round in the chamber. I can draw one hand and shoot. I don't need to try to rack a round using my pants to try to build enough friction on the slide to get it to go all the way back. God forbid I had to do that in shorts! OW!

I see that someone mentioned that you practice drawing and racking all in one fluid motion, is that one handed? What are you a ninja? Please take a video of that and post it, I would love to see. Keep in mind that if you have to draw your firearm you are going to be in a high stress situation, adrenaline dump and everthing. Fine motor skills are going to be difficult at best. So the less fine motor movements you have to make the better you are.

Total side note, how many hear practice on a regular basis firing with their off hand only? If I pull a gun, chances are there are bullets flying back at me and I may get hit but still be able to fire. I practice one handed all the time. (Thats what she said) Left and right. I really need to put a few more thousand rounds through the pistol left handed though. Kinda sloppy and slow on that side. Makes me Jim when I miss a target, even left handed.

I do realize that many of us have young ones in the house, it would be better to get one of those biometric safes and keep a loaded firearm in that, then an unloaded one on our person. And I am meaning one in the chamber of course. I have been meaning to get one for the house myself. Really need to get on that. Figure I can lock it to the bed and have it right there should I need it.









So... Jim, was that what you didn't want to see? Crankier yet? LOL[ROFL2]

getting there. ;)

Strong / weak racking slide with either hand are all topics for Training etc. I try 1 handed target engagements as well as racking the slide with 1 hand. Not an easy task w/out stress.
I just want to know, ARE your HD guns HOT? The consensus is leaning towards Yes.

I don't care what anyone's reasons are for Not having one ready to go. just a simple Y or N

[Ronin13]

So... Jim, was that what you didn't want to see? Crankier yet? LOL[ROFL2]


getting there. ;)

Crap... I'm gonna go hide now.

[CroiDhubh]

Pistol: Yes (one is in reach always, the others aren't for all intents and purposes)
Shotgun: No (Should, though...)
Rifle: No


Since there was some DEBATE in another thread because [some thought] you should not have a loaded gun in the home.

That's the fucking stupidest thing I have heard so far today...

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I also practice one handed and off handed. This includes drawing off hand, charging the gun, malfunction corrections, and loading a magazine. Thought this was common procedure, but I'm learning it isn't.

Then again, I didn't realize most people didn't even shoot a box of fifty a month, when I try to go a minimum of twice a month and shoot no less than one hundred rounds for each pistol I take...

[Great-Kazoo]

Pistol: Yes (one is in reach always, the others aren't for all intents and purposes)
Shotgun: No (Should, though...)
Rifle: No



That's the fucking stupidest thing I have heard so far today... Start another or search for that thread.

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I also practice one handed and off handed. This includes drawing off hand, charging the gun, malfunction corrections, and loading a magazine. Thought this was common procedure, but I'm learning it isn't.

Then again, I didn't realize most people didn't even shoot a box of fifty a month, when I try to go a minimum of twice a month and shoot no less than one hundred rounds for each pistol I take...

[CroiDhubh]

I'm gonna have to now...but why would I start a new thread about it?

Not to mention my comment had to do with the "[some thought] you should not have a loaded gun in the home." part. You guys sure seem to focus on one part of a post a lot.

[Gunyaga]

Yes

[Snowman78]

Yes

[tmleadr03]

I'm gonna have to now...but why would I start a new thread about it?

Not to mention my comment had to do with the "[some thought] you should not have a loaded gun in the home." part. You guys sure seem to focus on one part of a post a lot.

Jim is old, bitter, and cranky. The rest of us are just assholes.

[Bailey Guns]

Jim is old, bitter, and cranky. The rest of us are just assholes.

Some of us are all of the above.

[Great-Kazoo]

Jim is old, bitter, and cranky. The rest of us are just assholes.

Bitter? I've been told i have a decent flavor that rolls delightfully, over the palate, depending on what my diet and vitamin supplements are.

[Bailey Guns]

Aww, man....

[cofi]

yes :)

[fitz19d]

No children, so multiple loaded around the place. Shield chambered and safe'd. (Only safety I've not minded.)

[Ronin13]

Bitter? I've been told i have a decent flavor that rolls delightfully, over the palate, depending on what my diet and vitamin supplements are.
Eww, gross... Jim, what you and the Mrs do in the bedroom is of no concern to us, and frankly, we don't want or need to know that. [Shock]

[Sawin]

Bitter? I've been told i have a decent flavor that rolls delightfully, over the palate, depending on what my diet and vitamin supplements are.

ok this thread is dead now. ha

[TFOGGER]

I see that someone mentioned that you practice drawing and racking all in one fluid motion, is that one handed? What are you a ninja? Please take a video of that and post it, I would love to see.



Not me, but this has been posted before...


http://youtu.be/fKyGUYjCruY

[ailachami]

bedside is loaded but not chambered. I was thinking about getting a biometric safe next to the bed and have it in there loaded and chambered. but how fast can you get a gun out of the safe vs racking a loaded gun?

[Great-Kazoo]

bedside is loaded but not chambered. I was thinking about getting a biometric safe next to the bed and have it in there loaded and chambered. but how fast can you get a gun out of the safe vs racking a loaded gun?

time yourself.
Lets not forget the all important thing. ID of target, AFTER YOU WAKE UP

[Great-Kazoo]

Eww, gross... Jim, what you and the Mrs do in the bedroom is of no concern to us, and frankly, we don't want or need to know that. [Shock]

MRS? Bedroom????????????? That inflatable "Talking" doll link you sent me [ you did send it, yes?] is amazing. Hey! that's one of the programmable sayings. BONUS or is it BONE-HER[ROFL3]

[T-Giv]

Long after the thread has died it appears but since I'm already in here....always a yes.

[Bailey Guns]

Why are some of you guys continuing to say your gun is "loaded" when the chamber is empty?

[Boadie30]

Safety rules: 1) Treat every weapon as if it were loaded??? [LOL]

[Bailey Guns]

RE: the above video.

No way even my good shoulder could handle that...much less the bad one. I'll have to stick to the old reliable method. Give that dude props, though. Pretty slick. I wonder how that works with some smaller guns with stiffer springs and less mass in the slide...PPK/S or something similar.

[rondog]

Like to see him do it with 1911's. Or other pistols as was mentioned. And he's probably the only guy in the world that can do that. Like he said, more of a gimmick than a technique.

[Sawin]

RE: the above video.

No way even my good shoulder could handle that...much less the bad one. I'll have to stick to the old reliable method. Give that dude props, though. Pretty slick. I wonder how that works with some smaller guns with stiffer springs and less mass in the slide...PPK/S or something similar.

It doesn't. The smaller the mass in the slide the harder he'd have to sling it like that.... there's zero chance that will work with a micro pistol.

[BlasterBob]

Why are some of you guys continuing to say your gun is "loaded" when the chamber is empty?

Because jim said so and it's his thread! He's right and I do agree with himTHIS time.

[Dingo]

Everything with a trigger in my house has a full mag and chamber.

[Snowman78]

It doesn't. The smaller the mass in the slide the harder he'd have to sling it like that.... there's zero chance that will work with a micro pistol.

I just tryied it with my LC9 and could not do it.

[bw88350]

1 rifle=yes pistols=yes shotgun=no (28" 12ga)

[cjmore]

Handguns = Yes.
Rifle = No. (Loaded mag in the well)

[car-15]

yep, locked and loaded[panic]

[mackbamf]

C-3

[lowspeed_highdrag]

Everything but bolt actions are condition 1.

[jhood001]

I just tryied it with my LC9 and could not do it.

I tried for about 5 minutes with a G19 and all I accomplished was giving myself a sore back.

[Marine24]

Yes.

[tmleadr03]

I tried for about 5 minutes with a G19 and all I accomplished was giving myself a sore back.

It made my elbow hurt to try and I got nothing.

[BlasterBob]

Yep!! Like if there is only one (1) round in the cylinder of a six shot revolver and that round will NOT be in line with the barrel the next time the trigger is pulled/squeezed, I believe that firearm is still considered "LOADED". Right?? Same difference.

Another REPOST - because I thought surely someone would agree with the above. With only one cartridge in the revolver it may have to be cocked or have trigger pulled/squeezed a couple times (maybe even 5 times) before the cartridge is in line with the barrel for firing. So wouldn't the LEOs still consider this firearm as being LOADED?[beatdeadhorse]

[TFOGGER]

RE: the above video.

No way even my good shoulder could handle that...much less the bad one. I'll have to stick to the old reliable method. Give that dude props, though. Pretty slick. I wonder how that works with some smaller guns with stiffer springs and less mass in the slide...PPK/S or something similar.


Like to see him do it with 1911's. Or other pistols as was mentioned. And he's probably the only guy in the world that can do that. Like he said, more of a gimmick than a technique.


It doesn't. The smaller the mass in the slide the harder he'd have to sling it like that.... there's zero chance that will work with a micro pistol.

I've seen guys do that in competition. It does seem like a gimmick for young men.

[lllRorlll]

An ashamed no.
cant bring myself to, know I should.
lacking some level of confidence/competence..

[Bailey Guns]

An ashamed no.
cant bring myself to, know I should.
lacking some level of confidence/competence..

Nothing wrong with that knowing you need to work on some skills. I'd say good on you for recognizing your need for additional training and competence.

[jplove71]

Handguns = Yes.
Rifle = No. (Loaded mag in the well)
Ditto.

[Bailey Guns]

Another REPOST - because I thought surely someone would agree with the above. With only one cartridge in the revolver it may have to be cocked or have trigger pulled/squeezed a couple times (maybe even 5 times) before the cartridge is in line with the barrel for firing. So wouldn't the LEOs still consider this firearm as being LOADED?[beatdeadhorse]

If I recall correctly there is no statutory definition of "loaded" under Title 18 of the CRS. Title 33 requires the chamber of any long gun to be unloaded if it's in a motor vehicle and basically says "loaded" means a round in the chamber of rifle or shotgun.

[Mtn.man]

That is the way it was explained to me as well.

[DSB OUTDOORS]

Damn Skippy. I mean YES!

[Dingo]

If I recall correctly there is no statutory definition of "loaded" under Title 18 of the CRS. Title 33 requires the chamber of any long gun to be unloaded if it's in a motor vehicle and basically says "loaded" means a round in the chamber of rifle or shotgun.

Yeah, but since when have we accepted the gubmint's definition of terms applicable to our lifestyle? They define us as potential terrorists for distrusting them, owning numerous firearms, or believing in God.

[HoneyBadger]

I tried for about 5 minutes with a G19 and all I accomplished was giving myself a sore back.
Yeah, I think I just injured my shoulder trying it with my G19...

[hollohas]

yes

[palepainter]

Mine was loaded....when it fell off the boat on my last fishing trip.

[wagzs]

no doubt

[hollohas]

Mine was loaded....when it fell off the boat on my last fishing trip.

OMG. Those poor fish are going to get shot!

[Stone83]

Cocked & Locked....

[brutal]

YES

[Cylinder Head]

Loaded- Yes
Chambered- No

[Walker2970]

locked, cocked, and ready to rock DRILL SARGENT

[GilpinGuy]

All guns = yes

Shit, even the black powder 50 is loaded from last year.

[Trout Hunter]

Gun in every room in the house....all with one in the pipe.... Wife likes em that way too.

[GilpinGuy]

Gun in every room in the house....all with one in the pipe.... Wife likes em that way too.

[ROFL2]

[Adawg38]

Ja!

[ANADRILL]

yep benneli m4 in the corner mp5k on night stand. .

[Citizen_Soldier]

Shotgun and handguns yes.

[USAFGopherMike]

all long guns have mags in, nothing in the pipe in the various rooms.
bedside gun has loaded mag, nothing in the pipe
long story short...yes

Same,... and the wife knows how to use em.

[USAFGopherMike]

[ROFL2]

Win!

[rockhound]

um...... i dont own any guns [ROFL2]

[sniper7]

most yes

[Jesus-With-A-.45]

HELL NO! I don't keep loaded guns anywhere near me..........haven't you heard?

They kill people all by themselves, just last week my Colt 1911 threatened to shot me if I didn't put it in the safe nest to the sexy Sig P239 (he likes euro chicks)

[islandermyk]

Loaded, yes... and suppressed [Coffee]

[Great-Kazoo]

Loaded, yes... and suppressed [Coffee]

That's a different poll. Dop you keep your firearms suppressed at home . Now go and start another thread, HeepE

[islandermyk]

That's a different poll. Dop you keep your firearms suppressed at home . Now go and start another thread, HeepE
[ROFL3]

figured it be all right in here since it's loaded too [Coffee]

[Circuits]

I don't keep any gun unloaded outside the safes. My shotgun, however, is unchambered so I can do the ch-chunk as a warning without spitting out the chambered round.

Rifles and handguns are kept chambered, cocked and locked, or just chambered and ready for glocks. Revolvers fully loaded, hammer down.

[jmg8550]

Pistol, rifle and shotgun all loaded.

[Great-Kazoo]

Pistol, rifle and shotgun all loaded.

I thought you moved? [ROFL3]

[blacklabel]

My shotgun, however, is unchambered so I can do the ch-chunk as a warning without spitting out the chambered round.

http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ah-jeez-not-this-again.jpg

[jmg8550]

I thought you moved? [ROFL3]

May 18th.

[boulder888]

Nope, too many friends of kids over visiting.

[DavieD55]

[ROFL3]

figured it be all right in here since it's loaded too [Coffee]


LOL

[lowspeed_highdrag]

Some of the replies in here shock me:

-Shotgun with empty chamber so he can "ch chuck" it
-Empty chambers for safety

Why even own a gun if you wont keep it loaded?

[Great-Kazoo]

Some of the replies in here shock me:

-Shotgun with empty chamber so he can "ch chuck" it
-Empty chambers for safety

Why even own a gun if you wont keep it loaded?


That's another thread. This is or was Y or N

[Bailey Guns]

This is or was Y or N

You're such an optimist...

:)

[bgouker]

Yes, with one in the chamber, and an extra loaded mag with it.

[Omicron]

Closing per OP request.