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DHC
05-06-2013, 10:17
First of all, I could not decide where this belonged so stuck it here in GD. Mods, feel free to move (or not) as you deem appropriate.

Next, I've been doing a bunch of searching around for various sorts of steel targets. Some for use at long ranges - 500 yards and more. And some for closer ranges such as a pistol dueling tree.

The first place I looked was here at the site and I found a site sponsor in AA Targets (https://www.ar-15.co/forums/179-AA-Targets). I have not used their products but they are recommended by Hoser and will likely see some of my business in the near future. Their competition target stand for $150 looks like a really nice option for long range shooting. I'd imagine you get both audible and visual confirmation of a hit - and for me with my eyes and ears, I need both.

I found a couple of one-man shops on the North end of town that had in stock, or built some products for me, and I wanted to mention them for anyone interested. The guy at 1760precision.com makes up a simple 10" circle target in 3/8" AR500 steel for $90.
http://www.1760precision.com/s/cc_images/cache_473411304.jpg

The entire assembly is quite light, except for the steel circles, and can be packed in without much trouble. There are some holes in the bases to accept spikes to add to target stability. We've found that an off target high velocity bullet just 'pencils' through the wood stands leaving the target intact. A slow-moving .45 ACP bullet, OTOH, will pretty much take the target out of play with a solid hit on the wood so we always bring spare wood stands.

Since the height of the target is adjustable depending on the height of the wood stand, it is easy to cut a few pieces at 48" and a few at 36" (or whatever lengths you prefer) and then have the targets at different heights to change things up just a bit.

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Since my teen sons like to 'compete,' I thought some kind of action target might be fun and might help him (and me too) develop some improved shooting skills. I found a local guy making several steel target options including a dueling tree with AR500 steel plates. His company/website is Arc Innovations at http://ai-metalworks.com/products.html.
http://vh2.nethosting.com/~metalwo/cart/bmz_cache/0/07301b23f609e1d9b77e0493efa3c6ad.image.308x550.jpg

We have had this out a couple of times now and learned a bit about how to use it correctly. First of all, the vertical stand is designed to be 'leaning' toward the shooter(s) at a 20 degree angle while sitting on a flat base. This ends up being important for a couple of reasons, one is deflection of the 'splay' (bullet fragments) into the ground right by the target, and the other is for effective reset of the target plates. If the vertical stand is not on a relatively flat base and is leaning a bit away from the shooter, we have had .22LR rounds that would move the plates just enough so that they lined up with the vertical stand - effectively 'hiding' behind the vertical bar. Now, it may be that .22LR just lack the OOMPH to be able to smack them back and forth, but depending on the distance to the target, they should work OK.

We also found that it is important to place a weight on the front part of the base legs. Currently using a Home Depot bucket with a bag of sand in it and it works well - until someone misses really low and hits the bucket/sand and it all spills out (still working out the kinks in the plan). Anyway, once the base is level and stable, this is a real kick for handguns. Whether just one person running up and down the plates, or two people 'competing' to see who wins the duel, this was worth the $350 pricetag.

Those are the options I've been using. I'd be interested in learning more about what others use and recommend or recommend against.

Great-Kazoo
05-06-2013, 10:26
Industry partner

http://www.ar-15.co/forums/179-AA-Targets

drift_g35
05-06-2013, 11:34
I wasnt sure I wanted to spend a ton of money on some plates so I went to a local scrap yard and found some scrap pieces of AR500. I took them out this week and they worked great. And for only $60 + a few $ to build stands they worked out great. I will probably order some stuff from AA soon.
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8114/8702186152_6198d020c6_b.jpg

Marine24
05-06-2013, 16:56
+1 on AA Targets. Received my order from Justin a few weeks ago and very pleased. The rebar competition stand works great for the steel targets, plus gives you the option of hanging paper targets in cardboard frames as well. There was a slight delay in the order and Austin was kind enough to throw in another steel plate. He obviously has a much higher opinion on my skill than I actually have but something to strive for. Definitely be buying from him again.

Another option is JC Steel targets. Particularly interested in the T posts holders they offer. I have a bunch of them sitting around after my landscaping projects around the house. Interesting concept for a fixed range but not so sure when I've got to pull those things out of the ground when on public land.

blacklabel
05-06-2013, 17:45
What are you using to hang those drift? I'd like to find something simple and light weight to keep 10" circles at a about chest height.

roberth
05-06-2013, 17:51
I like these guys --> http://www.brasskets.com/index.html Brasskets is in Thornton, they make targets using 1/2" AR500 too.

TriggerHappy
05-06-2013, 19:24
Check out action target. The 40% IPSC are fairly in-expensive and they have great customer service. They fold up for storage and travel.

spongejosh
05-06-2013, 20:27
The cheapest and lightest stands I've seen are plant holders (Shepard's hooks). I get the cheap flimsy ones and they help absorb the impact from rifles. Hiking out a couple hundred yards with a hook and a plate and you quickly realize the weight of the plate is the only thing you notice.

http://photos.imageevent.com/cas6969/misc/Plates.jpg

DHC
05-06-2013, 21:03
The cheapest and lightest stands I've seen are plant holders (Shepard's hooks). I get the cheap flimsy ones and they help absorb the impact from rifles. Hiking out a couple hundred yards with a hook and a plate and you quickly realize the weight of the plate is the only thing you notice.

http://photos.imageevent.com/cas6969/misc/Plates.jpg

Damn, that is a good idea! This is one of those times when I kick myself thinking; Why didn't I think of that?!?

drift_g35
05-06-2013, 21:06
What are you using to hang those drift? I'd like to find something simple and light weight to keep 10" circles at a about chest height.

I welded brackets on the back. I was a little worried about ruining the heat treatment, but I welded slowly and didnt get it too hot. It worked out really well this weekend.

T-Giv
05-06-2013, 21:06
Can't beat shooting steels! Just don't get shot in the hand....[facepalm]

cofi
05-07-2013, 01:10
Can't beat shooting steels! Just don't get shot in the hand....[facepalm]

or in the dick.....or in the neck.....my last range bit everyone :)

yz9890
02-22-2014, 05:26
I wanted to angle them forward slightly so I hung them from the back. The triangle is just mounted with a screw and a spring to keep tension on it.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/22/e8arupyh.jpg

PSS
02-22-2014, 08:06
Worn out belting from a gravel conveyor works perfect to hang plates. I cut strips as longs as I need and bolt it to the plates. The rubber belting lasts as long as the plate does and is stiff so the plate doesn't flop around so much.

hatidua
02-22-2014, 13:56
Certainly not as fancy as some, but relatively cost effective:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/hatidua/steel2_zpsefb5493f.jpg

(AR500 targets from eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/One-8-Inch-Hanging-Gong-3-8in-Thick-AR500-Pistol-Rifle-Steel-Target-/121203351473?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c38485fb1)

tmckay2
02-22-2014, 14:21
As a noob, I am wondering what to get for some fairly close range carbine and pistol training. Is it safe from say 20 yards away to have hanging plates so I can practice moving between different targets or not? I've seen people do it but it seems to me a deflection to the head could make the day go south.

theGinsue
02-22-2014, 15:00
As a noob, I am wondering what to get for some fairly close range carbine and pistol training. Is it safe from say 20 yards away to have hanging plates so I can practice moving between different targets or not? I've seen people do it but it seems to me a deflection to the head could make the day go south.
My personal opinion, based off of a bad experience some folks here had, is NO, 20 yards is NOT safe. I'd go 50+.

cofi
02-22-2014, 19:06
As a noob, I am wondering what to get for some fairly close range carbine and pistol training. Is it safe from say 20 yards away to have hanging plates so I can practice moving between different targets or not? I've seen people do it but it seems to me a deflection to the head could make the day go south.


Spall is no joke at that range it's fast enough that you will lose an eye or some teeth it will cut you up best to stick with paper or foamie targets under 50

hatidua
02-22-2014, 19:16
As a noob, I am wondering what to get for some fairly close range carbine and pistol training. Is it safe from say 20 yards away to have hanging plates so I can practice moving between different targets or not? I've seen people do it but it seems to me a deflection to the head could make the day go south.

I don't think lumping all steel targets together is an accurate way to assess the risk. I've shot a variety of steel targets and suspect that bullets react quite differently when hitting the different types. The deeply pitted steel gongs on the silhouette range at CRC would be spooky up close, whereas perfectly flat swinging steel targets that absorb substantial energy by swinging away or falling over when hit are completely different animals. The steel targets that have strong springs on them when mounted on 4x4"s (think those at RW Swainson's 'farm') might fall somewhere in between.