Mr. Bush, we found your WMDs... you don't need to be called a liar anymore.

[Ronin13]

New reports show that, and I've been saying this for years, the WMDs that Iraq allegedly had, are in Syria.
Here are some excerpts from the article:

As the regime of Bashar Assad disintegrates, the security of his chemical arsenal is in jeopardy. The No. 2 general in Saddam Hussein's air force says they were the WMDs we didn't find in Iraq.

The irony here is that the chemical weapons stockpile of Syrian thug Assad may in large part be the legacy of weapons moved from Hussein's Iraq into Syria before Operation Iraqi Freedom.
If so, this may be the reason not much was found in the way of WMD by victorious U.S. forces in 2003.


In 2006, former Iraqi general Georges Sada, second in command of the Iraqi Air Force who served under Saddam Hussein before he defected, wrote a comprehensive book, "Saddam's Secrets."
It details how the Iraqi Revolutionary Guard moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria in advance of the U.S.-led action to eliminate Hussein's WMD threat.


As Sada told the New York Sun, two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, and special Republican Guard units loaded the planes with chemical weapons materials.
There were also truck convoys into Syria. Sada's comments came more than a month after Israel's top general during Operation Iraqi Freedom, Moshe Yaalon, told the Sun that Saddam "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria."


Both Israeli and U.S. intelligence observed large truck convoys leaving Iraq and entering Syria in the weeks and months before Operation Iraqi Freedom, John Shaw, former deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told a private conference of former weapons inspectors and intelligence experts held in Arlington, Va., in 2006.


According to Shaw, ex-Russian intelligence chief Yevgeni Primakov, a KGB general with long-standing ties to Saddam, went to Iraq in December 2002 and stayed until just before the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.
Anticipating the invasion, his job was to supervise the removal of such weapons and erase as much evidence of Russian involvement as possible.


The Russian-assisted "cleanup" operation was entrusted to a combination of GRU and Spetsnaz troops and Russian military and civilian personnel in Iraq "under the command of two experienced ex-Soviet generals, Colonel-General Vladislav Achalov and Colonel-General Igor Maltsev, both retired and posing as civilian commercial consultants."


Washington Times reporter Bill Gertz reported on Oct. 30, 2004, that Achalov and Maltsev had been photographed receiving medals from Iraqi Defense Minister Sultan Hashim Ahmad in a Baghdad building bombed by U.S. cruise missiles during the first U.S. air raids in early March 2003. Apparently they did their job well.


An article in the fall 2005 Middle East Quarterly reports that in an appearance on Israel's Channel 2 on Dec. 23, 2002, Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon, stated: "Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria." According to the article, about three weeks later, Israel's foreign minister repeated the accusation.


Syria has long had its own chemical weapons program, but the extent it may have been aided by weapons and materials transferred by Iraq before the war has only been the source of conjecture.


We may soon find out what happened to much of Saddam's WMD.
Full Story: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/071912-618875-syria-chemical-weapons-came-from-iraq-.htm?p=full
So those "Bush lied" folks, are they ready to eat their words? Further legitimizing going to war in the first place (even though the presence of WMDs was only one of 23 justifications in the UN Resolution).

[Cylinder Head]

History will be much kinder to Bush than it will be to Obama.

[Zundfolge]

History will be much kinder to Bush than it will be to Obama.

Unless Obama and his ilk keep winning ... in which case history will be a lie.

[sellersm]

The winners always get to write history...


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[Aloha_Shooter]

This may also be a reason Obama hasn't been all that enthusiastic about supporting the rebel overthrow of Assad.

[Ronin13]

This may also be a reason Obama hasn't been all that enthusiastic about supporting the rebel overthrow of Assad.
Move a lot of dirt around and you're bound to find a skeleton...

[asmo]

Umm.. We knew about this in 2006. Why do you think it will be news now?

[Ronin13]

Umm.. We knew about this in 2006. Why do you think it will be news now?
Assad using chemical weapons that belonged to Saddam... current events. Of course with Benghazi coming out, and the media getting caught in their lies, one can hope this may go mainstream as well and people's perception of Bush shift slightly.

[Aloha_Shooter]

Umm.. We knew about this in 2006. Why do you think it will be news now?

The news part will be forcing the MSM to admit it and publish info about it. They've been lying for over a decade now so getting them to admit anything resembling the truth about Benghazi or Iraqi WMDs will be entertaining.

[sellersm]

The news part will be forcing the MSM to admit it and publish info about it. They've been lying for over a decade now so getting them to admit anything resembling the truth about Benghazi or Iraqi WMDs will be futile.

FIFY.

[RblDiver]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is indeed the case, but didn't Saddam say that he was basically bluffing in an attempt to keep Iran from taking him over? It's been so long that I forget all the details.

[Circuits]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is indeed the case, but didn't Saddam say that he was basically bluffing in an attempt to keep Iran from taking him over? It's been so long that I forget all the details.

Saddam said a lot of things - you believed him?

[Aloha_Shooter]

No, I don't believe Saddam said that. I think that was one of the leading theories to explain why they weren't found. Another theory from the day was that Saddam genuinely thought he had WMDs but his weapons development folks were lying to him to keep from being shot for failing.

[Kraven251]

Unless Obama and his ilk keep winning ... in which case history will be a lie.

some of it already is

[losttrail]

This story could be a boil on Peter Boyles arse. Should be interesting to see how Boyles' spins this if it turns out to be true.

[Ronin13]

This story could be a boil on Peter Boyles arse. Should be interesting to see how Boyles' spins this if it turns out to be true.
I don't listen to Boyle, so perhaps the Cliff's Notes version to fill me in?

[ruthabagah]

I have some doubt on this one for the following reasons:

Iraqi and Syrian usually hates each other
Syria had no diplomatic relation with Iraq from 1979 to 2006
Syria contributed to Desert Storm against Iraq
Israel is constantly monitoring Syria. I can't see how the WMD would have been transferred undetected

As i said on the first line: It could make sense, but It seems unlikely.

[roberth]

This story could be a boil on Peter Boyles arse. Should be interesting to see how Boyles' spins this if it turns out to be true.


I don't listen to Boyle, so perhaps the Cliff's Notes version to fill me in?

Peter believes there were no WMD in Iraq at the time of the invasion, that all depends on what the definition of WMD is. I think WMD includes warheads, weaponized material, delivery systems and their components, I'm sure I missed something.

[BigBear]

I don't listen to Boyle, so perhaps the Cliff's Notes version to fill me in?

Pompous ass who thinks he has all the answers. Talks over people and won't let people finish their thought. Constantly abuses people on air and yells at them not to use tactics that he uses against them. Constantly argues about belief vs knowledge but seems to constantly mix the two in definition. Yes, he has some interesting insights, guests, etc... but I can only take so much of him in the morning.

[Gman]

WMDs include such methods as chemical weapons. We know Saddam had WMDs because he used them on the Kurds. The time-wasted going through the old song and dance with the UN gave Saddam time to move the weapons out of Iraq.

Israel knows what Syria has...which is why they've been preventing the weapons from being moved to Hesbollah.

I find it amusing to hear Syria talking smack to Israel. Go ahead. Make their day. Let's watch Israel beat their previous record for destroying the Syrian air force.

[SAnd]

I remember seeing a tiny little three of four sentence story buried in the back of the Rocky Mountain News about a week after the Iraq invasion started. It was a report that the Russians said they had people in Irag helping move weapons out of Iraq to other countries right up to the day of the invasion. I was able to find the original release from a Russian news service. The Russian news service report seemed strange because it reported that they were moving weapons out of Iraq to countries that I though weren't that friendly to Irag. This story kinda backs that up.

[Ronin13]

I have some doubt on this one for the following reasons:

Iraqi and Syrian usually hates each other
Syria had no diplomatic relation with Iraq from 1979 to 2006
Syria contributed to Desert Storm against Iraq
Israel is constantly monitoring Syria. I can't see how the WMD would have been transferred undetected

As i said on the first line: It could make sense, but It seems unlikely.
Outside looking in... I think it was a little different in reality. Syria accepted millions of Iraqi refugees in 2003. They also opposed the invasion and subsequent occupation of Iraq. Syria is also a major hub for foreign anti-coalition fighters to gain access into Iraq to fight us. Not to mention, I don't think Bashir Assad would say no to his not so friendly neighbor asking if he could park his chemical weapons laden trucks in his country- neither could have thought that Saddam would get out this alive.

[sabot_round]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is indeed the case, but didn't Saddam say that he was basically bluffing in an attempt to keep Iran from taking him over? It's been so long that I forget all the details.

I've been saying it all along and I will say it again. With all of the Clinton's threats about going into Iraq and looking for those chem wpns, Saddam found a way to filter them out to Syria IOT hide them. After another 6 years we went to Iraq and didn't find shit, except for the vehicles in which to deliver them with. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!

[275RLTW]

I have some doubt on this one for the following reasons:

Iraqi and Syrian usually hates each other
Syria had no diplomatic relation with Iraq from 1979 to 2006
Syria contributed to Desert Storm against Iraq
Israel is constantly monitoring Syria. I can't see how the WMD would have been transferred undetected

As i said on the first line: It could make sense, but It seems unlikely.

This was all known in 2003, seen by US forces, and reported. Chem weapons were moved daily. All missions against these were called off after the 1st time we found chem munitions. Someone up the chain way above my paygrade called us off.

[Skully]

"History is a set of lies agreed upon." Napoleon Bonaparte

[tmckay2]

this story was written a year ago. for various reasons people don't really care and hard evidence is never presented. i am sure there are many reasons why.

[TS12000]

Does it surprise you? That's like your neighbor asking if you want to look after his Rolls Royce while he's fighting Chuck Norris, of course Assad took that shit with open arms.

[Singlestack]

I remember seeing a tiny little three of four sentence story buried in the back of the Rocky Mountain News about a week after the Iraq invasion started. It was a report that the Russians said they had people in Irag helping move weapons out of Iraq to other countries right up to the day of the invasion. I was able to find the original release from a Russian news service. The Russian news service report seemed strange because it reported that they were moving weapons out of Iraq to countries that I though weren't that friendly to Irag. This story kinda backs that up.

There were also minor stories buried in the back pages at the time of some Iraqi fighter jets being moved to Syria so they didn't get destroyed by the US. Iraq and Syria had an "interesting" relationship back then, which I have never really understood or heard explained. Seems in that corner of the world you can be enemies about some things and friends about others.

[bryjcom]

Well, it still looks like we invaded the wrong country... Maybe we'll get it right next time.....

I hope nobody tells all those boys with the torn limbs and torn souls.

[TFOGGER]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend-arab proverb

[roberth]

Well, it still looks like we invaded the wrong country... Maybe we'll get it right next time.....

I hope nobody tells all those boys with the torn limbs and torn souls.

Shouldn't have been any country but if they had to go they should have taken Saudi Arabia.

[Ronin13]

I've been saying it all along and I will say it again. With all of the Clinton's threats about going into Iraq and looking for those chem wpns, Saddam found a way to filter them out to Syria IOT hide them. After another 6 years we went to Iraq and didn't find shit, except for the vehicles in which to deliver them with. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!!
The special operations in charge of finding the WMDs located underground storage facilities that housed chemical weapons, casks were located inside, empty, but not enough condemning evidence- even though everyone knew it wasn't for housing rice and grain.

Shouldn't have been any country but if they had to go they should have taken Saudi Arabia.
Yes, let's go to war with the one country in the middle east that we've been on good terms with for longer than Israel has been in existence, the one country that sells us the most oil for not insane prices (for the most part). Remember 1991? The Saudis asked US to come protect them and their oil. WE discovered oil there in the 1930's and have, for the most part, been on good terms with their government- for the most part, the royal family has a close friendship with the Bush family and has with almost every single president since WWII. It's the people, a lot of the military leadership, and most of the religious leaders (especially the Wahabbis) that hate us.

Now, the real issue was that we shouldn't have done anything with Iraq until we sorted out Afghanistan, and possibly bitch slapped the Pakis.

[cstone]

If the progressive media decides they can no longer bury this aspect of the story, the spin will be this: Bush Administration Ignored movement of Iraqi WMDs to Syria.

Silly rabbit; it's always Bush's Fault.

[mtnhack]

So somebody elaborate for me here; someone fairly high up in our intelligence communitiy knew they were moving chemical weapons out of the country, but ignored it? Why?
Just so Bush could look the ass when invading for WMD that were not there?

And we knew they were moving this shit out back then because we saw them doing it, and we didn't A) catch them in the act so that we could have the proverbial blank check to do what we wanted with the offenders, and B) look like world wide heroes for stopping further BS by Saddam.

I don't get this conspiracy theory at all.

[cstone]

How do you mean "Stop them from moving it?" Even if you knew it was chem vs bio, I can't imagine that dropping ordinance on it would be a good thing.

We know about many countries that have WMDs. That doesn't mean we can do anything about it.

Sometimes you can't take the shot even when you want to.

Be safe.

[Ronin13]

So somebody elaborate for me here; someone fairly high up in our intelligence communitiy knew they were moving chemical weapons out of the country, but ignored it? Why?
Just so Bush could look the ass when invading for WMD that were not there?

And we knew they were moving this shit out back then because we saw them doing it, and we didn't A) catch them in the act so that we could have the proverbial blank check to do what we wanted with the offenders, and B) look like world wide heroes for stopping further BS by Saddam.

I don't get this conspiracy theory at all.
I've never heard that- I only heard that they moved them out of the country- to Syria, a place we didn't invade from so hard to spot. I have yet to hear any substantial claims that we knew it was going on at the time.

[275RLTW]

I've never heard that- I only heard that they moved them out of the country- to Syria, a place we didn't invade from so hard to spot. I have yet to hear any substantial claims that we knew it was going on at the time.

Werknew they were being moved. As I stated earlier, we were called off after finding the 1st load of chem munitions.

[Marlin]

Pompous ass who thinks he has all the answers. Talks over people and won't let people finish their thought. Constantly abuses people on air and yells at them not to use tactics that he uses against them. Constantly argues about belief vs knowledge but seems to constantly mix the two in definition. Yes, he has some interesting insights, guests, etc... but I can only take so much of him in the morning.

Pete is starting to make Alex Jones seem rational

[roberth]

Pete is starting to make Alex Jones seem rational

Peter is disregarding history when it comes to Iraq. I'm not sure what Pete's point is RE WMD. There were WMD in Iraq and the House and Senate voted to go in. I don't understand why President Bush has to carry the entire blame for the Iraq debacle.

[sabot_round]

The special operations in charge of finding the WMDs located underground storage facilities that housed chemical weapons, casks were located inside, empty, but not enough condemning evidence- even though everyone knew it wasn't for housing rice and grain.

I know, I was there during the invasion.

[losttrail]

Shouldn't have been any country but if they had to go they should have taken Saudi Arabia.

+1

[ScooterCO]

I know, I was there during the invasion.

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