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TFOGGER
05-13-2013, 21:37
http://kdvr.com/2013/05/13/police-staff-worker-accidentally-shoots-student-outside-rangeview-h-s/



AURORA, Colo. — A student underwent surgery Monday night after an accidental shooting in the staff parking lot outside Rangeview High School.
Police spokesman Ofc. Frank Fania says a staff worker at the school accidentally shot the student in the leg in the staff worker’s car. The student was getting a ride home.
The gun accidentally fired while the shooter was putting it away in the glove box of his vehicle.
Fania says the staff worker has a second job as an armed security officer, so it’s legal for him to have the gun. He is not a teacher at the school and his job as a security guard is not associated with Aurora Public Schools.
The worker drove the victim to Aurora Medical Center South for treatment. The victim is expected to recover.
Police do not plan to file any charges against the shooter, since it was legal for him to have the gun.
Fania says it will be up to the school district to decide whether he violated any school rules.


Since when is it legal to have a gun at a K-12 school simply because you have a guard license? [Eek3]

BigDee
05-13-2013, 21:47
Dipshit.

Jmetz
05-13-2013, 21:49
Wow.

02ducky
05-13-2013, 23:01
What an idiot, just the type of person that should have a firearm.

ChunkyMonkey
05-13-2013, 23:07
Extremely Speculative..but I bet he was showing off the damn gun.

hghclsswhitetrsh
05-13-2013, 23:22
Extremely Speculative..but I bet he was showing off the damn gun.

My thoughts as well.

Gman
05-13-2013, 23:48
Legal to have in his vehicle in the school parking lot, yes. Legal to be walking around with it on school grounds, no. There are some exceptions that can be made by the senior school staff.

Stupid is as stupid does.

robertcolorado2009
05-14-2013, 07:14
Just the type of things democraps would try and have tried to legislate against, stupidity. Which goes along with craziness, criminality etc. It just can't be made to never happen.

Ronin13
05-14-2013, 10:01
Since when is it legal to have a gun at a K-12 school simply because you have a guard license? [Eek3]
Actually it's legal to have it in your vehicle if you have a CCW and you have business at the school. I've had mine in my car going to our local HS to talk to the SRO who is a friend of mine. It's perfectly legal as long as it's left in your locked vehicle out of sight.

Legal to have in his vehicle in the school parking lot, yes. Legal to be walking around with it on school grounds, no. There are some exceptions that can be made by the senior school staff.

Stupid is as stupid does.
This.

CroiDhubh
05-14-2013, 12:11
[facepalm]
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Gunner
05-14-2013, 12:14
So since I have my CCW I can accidently shoot someone in the leg and no charges will be filed since its legal for me to have the gun?

sniper7
05-14-2013, 12:23
So since I have my CCW I can accidently shoot someone in the leg and no charges will be filed since its legal for me to have the gun?

Yeah! Let's see if we have any volunteers!

TFOGGER
05-14-2013, 13:49
Actually it's legal to have it in your vehicle if you have a CCW and you have business at the school. I've had mine in my car going to our local HS to talk to the SRO who is a friend of mine. It's perfectly legal as long as it's left in your locked vehicle out of sight.

This.

I read the original article to say that he was transferring his carry piece to his glove box when the ND happened. The article goes on to say that he was allowed to have his gun on school grounds because he moonlights as a security guard, which is NOT what the law says.


18-12-105.5. Unlawfully carrying a weapon - unlawful possession of weapons - school, college, or university grounds



(1) A person commits a class 6 felony if such person knowingly and unlawfully and without legal authority carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a deadly weapon as defined in section 18-1-901 (3) (e) (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=a60ce7dd5391eecdf7019faa98360be3&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105.5%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=2&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2018-1-901&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAl&_md5=a2bc108149b4b4038e651098f4db166a) in or on the real estate and all improvements erected thereon of any public or private elementary, middle, junior high, high, or vocational school or any public or private college, university, or seminary, except for the purpose of presenting an authorized public demonstration or exhibition pursuant to instruction in conjunction with an organized school or class, for the purpose of carrying out the necessary duties and functions of an employee of an educational institution that require the use of a deadly weapon, or for the purpose of participation in an authorized extracurricular activity or on an athletic team.

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(3) It shall not be an offense under this section if:

(a) The weapon is unloaded and remains inside a motor vehicle while upon the real estate of any public or private college, university, or seminary; or

(b) The person is in that person's own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under that person's control at the time of the act of carrying; or

(c) The person is in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance and is carrying a weapon for lawful protection of that person's or another's person or property while traveling; or

(d) The person, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=a60ce7dd5391eecdf7019faa98360be3&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105.5%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=3&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2018-12-105.1&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAl&_md5=8deab01b73d02417cf55c7c510fe32ac), as said section existed prior to its repeal; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (3) (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=a60ce7dd5391eecdf7019faa98360be3&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105.5%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=4&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2018-12-214&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAl&_md5=024173453d3c8768d9754ad6ea69e66f); or

(d.5) The weapon involved was a handgun and the person held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214 (3) (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=a60ce7dd5391eecdf7019faa98360be3&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105.5%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=5&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2018-12-214&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAl&_md5=65c1adb2aab0f31cbb785df80ad114c6); or

(e) The person is a peace officer, as described in section 16-2.5-101 (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=a60ce7dd5391eecdf7019faa98360be3&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105.5%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=6&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2016-2.5-101&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAl&_md5=a7fb6376e2dadee47148c20f4961d601), C.R.S., when carrying a weapon in conformance with the policy of the employing agency as provided in section 16-2.5-101 (2) (http://web.lexisnexis.com/research/buttonTFLink?_m=a60ce7dd5391eecdf7019faa98360be3&_xfercite=%3ccite%20cc%3d%22USA%22%3e%3c%21%5bCDAT A%5bC.R.S.%2018-12-105.5%5d%5d%3e%3c%2fcite%3e&_butType=4&_butStat=0&_butNum=7&_butInline=1&_butinfo=COCODE%2016-2.5-101&_fmtstr=FULL&docnum=1&_startdoc=1&wchp=dGLzVzB-zSkAl&_md5=46b4e54b50e885ead7a4a4119328f125), C.R.S.; or

(f) and (g) (Deleted by amendment, L. 2003, p. 1626, § 51, effective August 6, 2003.)

(h) The person has possession of the weapon for use in an educational program approved by a school which program includes, but shall not be limited to, any course designed for the repair or maintenance of weapons.


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18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions

(3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:

(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;

(b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty;

(c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.



So, as I read the law, he would have been ok to possess the weapon on school grounds had he been employed by the school district as a security guard, and on duty as such. If he has a valid CCW, he can have it in his car only. Dumbass still should have kept his fuckin' booger hook out of the trigger guard and kept it pointed in a safe direction.

Ronin13
05-14-2013, 14:45
So since I have my CCW I can accidently shoot someone in the leg and no charges will be filed since its legal for me to have the gun?
I'm confused, is this in response to what I posted? If so, can someone point out where I said you aren't liable for shooting someone on accident just because you have a CCW? I don't recall stating that, I only recall a point of correction that if it is locked in your car, it's okay to possess a firearm on school property for CCW carriers, that's all.

Stone83
05-14-2013, 17:59
Next thing we have to worry about is Marijuana in our High Schools......

[LOL]

Gunner
05-14-2013, 18:10
I'm confused, is this in response to what I posted? If so, can someone point out where I said you aren't liable for shooting someone on accident just because you have a CCW? I don't recall stating that, I only recall a point of correction that if it is locked in your car, it's okay to possess a firearm on school property for CCW carriers, that's all.

No to what the reporter said saying nothing will haPpen since he legally had the gun