Going to be hot in my shop

[tmleadr03]

Holy buckets. Just took a reading of the ceiling and it is currently 80 degrees, with the metal support sitting at 87 degrees. And it isn't even the hot part of the day yet. Having a tin roof is going to cook me this year. Maybe next year a swamp cooler installed in the roof.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Tell the boss, dont be so cheap and get the cooler this year.

[CroiDhubh]

Yikes! I walked in and it was 78 in the store today so we flipped on the AC. Coming in, my car thermostat said it was already 80f outside.

[tmleadr03]

Tell the boss, dont be so cheap and get the cooler this year.

Boss is a cheap bastard and told me to drink more water.

[Ronin13]

Don't worry, just look to the west and see what's coming...
http://i.imgur.com/QpLU5cr.jpg?1
It's starting to sprinkle up here right now.

[tmleadr03]

It is 3 degrees higher since the OP.

I may spring for the damn swamper this year. Fuck this.

[Jmetz]

One of the things I hated about working in a garage.

[rondog]

Ceiling insulation and a http://www.bigassfans.com/ ?

[streetglideok]

Used to measure temps of 130* on the lifts inside our shop when I was in Oklahoma. Still, a lack of air circulation will make it hot there.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Yup swamp coolers are too cheap to be in that much misery. I have a buddy that installs them.

[BushMasterBoy]

I bought a couple portable swampers on wheels. Just so I can service vehicles in comfort.

[Mtn.man]

Smokin hot 67 now.

[Bailey Guns]

I'm roasting up here in Bailey. It's almost 64 degrees outside. Sweltering...

[Beer]

[Dave]

Try working in a tin roof hangar in Ft Hood, TX. [Faint] And people I talk to know wonder why I volunteered to go to Kosovo that summer.

[Great-Kazoo]

Paint the roof White.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Paint the roof White.

Galvanized sheet metal deflects heat better... Supposedly keeping it cooler.

[tmleadr03]

Yup swamp coolers are too cheap to be in that much misery. I have a buddy that installs them.

Contact info?

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Contact info?

Pm sent

[Ronin13]

I'm roasting up here in Bailey. It's almost 64 degrees outside. Sweltering...

[Beer]
Just a goat hair over 70 here on the other side of Conifer... Might need to open a window, air this mother out! [LOL]

[Great-Kazoo]

Galvanized sheet metal deflects [REFLECTS] heat better... Supposedly keeping it cooler.

Paint a 12 x 12 square white the other silver, place the squares in the sun, wait 1 hr, do a surface temp reading and get back with me. 10-25% on average temp difference between the 2.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

Paint a 12 x 12 square white the other silver, place the squares in the sun, wait 1 hr, do a surface temp reading and get back with me. 10-25% on average temp difference between the 2.

Bare metal has a higher solar reflectance but a lower thermal emittance. My bad.

[Great-Kazoo]

Bare metal has a higher solar reflectance but a lower thermal emittance. My bad.

No problem, i didn't want to throw out technical jargon and confuse you [LOL]

[Superorb]

Any advice for a townhouse? My office is upstairs and it gets over 80F before noon and 85F in here before 5pm. I've tried putting white contact paper on the windows but that didn't do anything. Maybe some wall insulation would help? This is the most inefficient place I've ever lived at. Downstairs hasn't gotten above 76F so far. It's miserable.

[Snowman78]

I also work at home and have the same problem, upstairs office and it is south faceing.

[Superorb]

I also work at home and have the same problem, upstairs office and it is south faceing.

The office window faces directly west, and there's a big field to the west so no buildings to shade the office. I get direct sun for over half the day and it sucks. Even with all the rain and 74F outside the temp just keeps climbing in here. I've tried with all my PCs, servers, and printers off and the temps are exactly the same as with everything on. I thought it was the 32" monitor that does get hot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I hate that I have to set the AC to 75F to get upstairs down to around 80F. It's always cold downstairs so all the sweat freezes when I go downstairs to grab some water. PITA I'm so sick of it!

[Great-Kazoo]

Any advice for a townhouse? My office is upstairs and it gets over 80F before noon and 85F in here before 5pm. I've tried putting white contact paper on the windows but that didn't do anything. Maybe some wall insulation would help? This is the most inefficient place I've ever lived at. Downstairs hasn't gotten above 76F so far. It's miserable.


I also work at home and have the same problem, upstairs office and it is south faceing.


Ceiling fans and if you don't have AC but the option of running your thermostat to the FAN ON instead of auto, it will help circulate the air.

[Colorado_Outback]

http://www.bigassfans.com/

[Superorb]

Ceiling fans and if you don't have AC but the option of running your thermostat to the FAN ON instead of auto, it will help circulate the air.

No ceiling fan b/c the ceiling is too low, but I have a tower fan that never turns off. I've tried running the fan for central AC on and it did nothing either. Hard to fight physics.

[TheGrey]

Superorb, that's a tough situation. Have you tried using a fan (box fan, or something that you can control a tilted angle, not a tower fan) to help funnel cool air up your stairway? I'd also recommend getting awnings to place over your windows that get full sun, and get some heavy-duty insulation-lined drapes for the inside of those windows. The drapes will help keep the sun out in summertime, and will help keep cold out in the winter. Multi-pronged approach on that problem....

[Tinelement]

I feel ya buddy.!

Gets hotter than hell in our shop with no flow through ventilation and facing west!

We have a swamp cooler, but can't really run it. The humidity rusts the bare metal cars too fast. Basically just use the fan.

[Great-Kazoo]

No ceiling fan b/c the ceiling is too low, but I have a tower fan that never turns off. I've tried running the fan for central AC on and it did nothing either. Hard to fight physics.

Ceiling hugger / low profile fans
http://www.lowes.com/pd_119513-79-20807_0__?productId=3467731&Ntt=low+clearence+ceiling+fans&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dlow%2Bclearence%2Bceiling%2Bfa ns&facetInfo=

[Superorb]

Ceiling hugger / low profile fans
http://www.lowes.com/pd_119513-79-20807_0__?productId=3467731&Ntt=low+clearence+ceiling+fans&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3Dlow%2Bclearence%2Bceiling%2Bfa ns&facetInfo=

We tried a hugger, it was still too low and didn't move much air. I'm tall so getting anything down from teh shelving unit would be a bad day.

[Sawin]

my townhome is 3 floors on the southern end of a mult-unit building. I have this same issue in the top 2 bedrooms....

step 1. Turn AC to 70ish (I've never gone lower, because the bottom floor will be too cold).
step 2. Close ALL the vents on the lowest floor.
step 3. Strategically close any other vents along the air-path, that leads to the top floor. (my living room has 3 in the row, I closed 1 of them that was closest to the thermostat).
step 4. Direct the air-flow from the vent in your top floor office, away from the wall/windows with one of these (random link of the product, or make one yourself - http://www.qcidirect.com/air-deflector.html)
step 5. Add a small personal desk fan to your workspace.

For me, the above = mission accomplished.

edit - oh, and obviously get some good blinds for the windows to block out some of the sunlight.

[lllRorlll]

I happen to have a downdraft swap cooler ...and am in need of boolets.
Hmmm

[Superorb]

my townhome is 3 floors on the southern end of a mult-unit building. I have this same issue in the top 2 bedrooms....

step 1. Turn AC to 70ish (I've never gone lower, because the bottom floor will be too cold).
step 2. Close ALL the vents on the lowest floor.
step 3. Strategically close any other vents along the air-path, that leads to the top floor. (my living room has 3 in the row, I closed 1 of them that was closest to the thermostat).
step 4. Direct the air-flow from the vent in your top floor office, away from the wall/windows with one of these (random link of the product, or make one yourself - http://www.qcidirect.com/air-deflector.html)
step 5. Add a small personal desk fan to your workspace.

For me, the above = mission accomplished.

edit - oh, and obviously get some good blinds for the windows to block out some of the sunlight.

I have to turn my AC to 72 to get the top floor down to 80 which is Ok for me and all the vents on the bottom floor are closed. The problem is that the bottom floor never changes temperature so the thermostat never turns off the system. I'm considering buying some roll insulation like you use in the walls and just staple them in the windows. Maybe put some aluminum foil facing out to help reflect the heat. I can stand in front of the window and cook it gets so hot.

[funkymonkey1111]

Any advice for a townhouse? My office is upstairs and it gets over 80F before noon and 85F in here before 5pm. I've tried putting white contact paper on the windows but that didn't do anything. Maybe some wall insulation would help? This is the most inefficient place I've ever lived at. Downstairs hasn't gotten above 76F so far. It's miserable.

work downstairs?

[Byte Stryke]

and this is why I got into IT.

I do not care if the BMF Chillers are for the equipment... I am enjoying them too!

[Superorb]

work downstairs?

That's the only thing I've thought of. Figure we can run the AC for an hour or so before we go to bed since the bedroom and office are both upstairs. I've got a lot of crap in my desk and it'll be a PITA to move everything every time the seasons change.

[tmleadr03]

Good lord it is HOT. No air flow, I am dying over here. I am very tempted to head home, sleep a few hours and come back when it cools off. Has to be over 90 in the back end of the shop right now. I hate the heat.

[cstone]

If the climate is Mediterranean, then live like it... Nothing gets done between 10AM and 6PM. Work from 4AM till 10AM and socialize from 8PM till 4AM.

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

I could sell you a roof top side draft for $250

[Akyla]

The A/C unit at my new store broke down the day we opened. FINALLY got the new unit installed and running today...2 1/2 weeks later. It hit 88 degrees inside yesterday. I several fans running but if I was behind the counter, they didn't hit me at all. I have never handled heat very well either. Probably lost 100 lbs in sweat the last couple of weeks!

[Superorb]

Does anyone her know where I could borrow or rent a FLIR camera? I'm trying to find the spots in my townhouse that are hot spots so I can try and eliminate them. It gets HOT upstairs where I work all day long.

[Brian]

Ugh, I feel you man. I just spent an hour outside in my garage trying to work on the jeep, and it's crazy hot. I really need to insulate it this year. The walls are easy but I use the ceiling beams to store stuff in. Anybody know if it would make a difference if I insulate directly under the actual slanted roof instead of going to the trouble to put up sheet rock and put in an actual ceiling? Do people do that? Basically skip putting in a ceiling but still get some insulation up there to tame the freezing winters and hot summers?

[Hummer]

Most folks over here use evaporative coolers because they're a lot cheaper to run than compressor operated air conditioners. We have two coolers on the house which previously would net a 12-16 degree differential. Two years ago we upgraded to more efficient Breezair coolers. At the time I extended a duct to include the garage and shop. Yesterday afternoon it hit 101 degrees here. Inside the house and garage for a short time the highest temp it got to was 75 degrees.

Lower humidity increases the evap cooler efficiency. Today, at 3:40 p.m., it hit a record 109 degrees. Inside the house it's a comfortable 72 degrees. An incredible 37 degree temperature differential! Love the Breezair coolers.

BTW, Xcel energy pays $500 in rebates for installing high efficiency evap coolers. We received $1K in rebates for our two coolers.

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

I also have portable evap coolers from 500 cfm to 5000cfm if anybody is interested send me a pm

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

Does anyone her know where I could borrow or rent a FLIR camera? I'm trying to find the spots in my townhouse that are hot spots so I can try and eliminate them. It gets HOT upstairs where I work all day long.


I have a portable 700cfm evap cooler that will work wonders for you $169 let me know if your interested also have smaller one for $149 or I have window A/Cs also

[Superorb]

Stupid HOA doesn't allow window AC units unfortunately. Don't swamp coolers just increase the humidity in an area? I absolutely cannot stand humidity. It's one of the main reasons why we moved from FL.

[Superorb]

dont do this if your windows are vinyl. i did it to a house of mine and it changed colors almost right away, and a couple of the windows vinyl actually started to "melt"

it worked great though. I used something similar to this

http://cds.a9t2h4q7.hwcdn.net/main/store/20090519001/items/media/BuildingMaterials/Reflectix/ProductLarge/Rtx_RDBW24100.jpg

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v4/532432796/Double_Bubble_Foil_fireproof_Insulation_Material.j pg_250x250.jpg

i mean the difference was day and night. I wish I could do it again to the house we live in now. we are too cheap to run the ac. so its between 82-88 degrees in here daily. somedays hotter.

Is that just foil backed bubble wrap? Where did you buy it? Our windows are glass.

[streetglideok]

The new shop I'm going to in a couple of weeks felt pretty comfortable thursday afternoon. It faces east, so that helps as well. Will be glad to get away from the drama I have here now.