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Ronin13
05-16-2013, 15:02
No this isn't a rant, this isn't a story about something that happened on Facebook... this is an actual revelation I have recently uncovered and thought it might liven up the conversations here.
I figured it out! We all know the term "Low Information Voter," but do we really grasp exactly how little information the majority of the liberal sheep actually possess? Upon discussing the latest scandals plaguing our current Joke in Chief with my progressive and liberal acquaintances, I've discovered just how far down this rabbit hole goes, er, actually, just how shallow their wealth of information on current events really is. First, the IRS, they know what's going on, but really don't have much of an opinion on it- guess Chris Matthews is still coming to grips with what happened before imparting his viewers with some talking points. Second, the AP-DOJ issue, they don't really understand this, as they aren't paying that much attention to it, so their lack of outrage is all but surprising.

Now for the fun stuff, and some of you who don't converse with liberals/progressives might find this shocking... Benghazi. Perfect example- my co-worker (yes, that one), was reading some Yahoo or FB post, or whatever, about the Benghazi emails being released. Reaction: Deer in the freaking headlights. Yep, that's right sports fans, she didn't have fucking clue what was going on. When I explained what Benghazi was, it didn't even register, as if she had no clue what was going on. I say the word impeachable to describe what happened with the lying, the covering up, the downplaying, the deflections until after the elections, and she gave me the cow chewing on cud look... complete bewilderment. Two other acquaintances, both of whom were 100% in front of the Amendment 64 issue, and the gay marriage issue, hadn't the slightest idea what was going on with not only the recent hearings, but also the Clinton hearing as well. Not a goddamn clue. It's as if they've been on another planet since September, with the exception of the election, and the 42% remark. So there it is, it's not that they're stupid, it's just that they don't know, and frankly, they aren't paying attention. Of course a lot of the credit goes to MSM for being complete failures as human beings in reporting anything outside of whatever the hell there is to talk about that is more important than our government becoming that which the founders warned about. But also, much of blame goes with these individuals that don't get out and seek out the news- I don't rely solely on FNC or TheBlaze.com to get informed, I actively search around (a lot of times I end up on BBC or Breitbart) and try to stay abreast of the current events in our world. But no, if you don't drop it into the liberal bowl, MSNBC and CNN won't spoon feed it to the sheep.

blacklabel
05-16-2013, 15:09
tl;dr?

Kraven251
05-16-2013, 15:14
nothing to see here citizen...</facepalm>

buckshotbarlow
05-16-2013, 15:41
or just a 1 up...

Dingo
05-16-2013, 15:56
Well, NPR has been covering it pretty decently - oughta hit the pseudo-intellectual coffee-house-liberal demographic. But a little information never stood in their way of braying support for their demi-god, so I doubt this will have any effect. All the camel jockeys who perpetrated the attack were probably carrying assault rifles, and this all could have been avoided with some common sense legislation.

RblDiver
05-16-2013, 15:58
tl;dr?
They might not be stupid, just uninformed due to their preferred media outlets not covering the stories.

mtnhack
05-16-2013, 16:04
I don't know about this. When John Stewart is railing on Obama on all 3 of those points, I think the mass liberal base knows about it. The Benghazi "event" may eventually be more of an issue to the kowtow'ers, but right now they are in the denial/nothing to see here mode.


These co-workers of yours sound like head in the sand morons, not just your everyday, run-of-the-mill liberals.

Bailey Guns
05-16-2013, 16:21
These co-workers of yours sound like head in the sand morons, not just your everyday, run-of-the-mill liberals.

OK...I'm confused. What's the difference?

Ronin13
05-16-2013, 16:21
I don't know about this. When John Stewart is railing on Obama on all 3 of those points, I think the mass liberal base knows about it. The Benghazi "event" may eventually be more of an issue to the kowtow'ers, but right now they are in the denial/nothing to see here mode.


These co-workers of yours sound like head in the sand morons, not just your everyday, run-of-the-mill liberals.
Oh only one is a co-worker, the other two are people I know through mutual friends. But true. However, a lot of the left has been saying that the GOP is using Benghazi as an excuse to go after Obama and/or Clinton, and that they're digging up "old news" that's "no longer relevant" to try and drum up some phony stuff on the prez. At least that's what I've been reading a lot of the left version of Breitbart has been saying.

Dingo
05-16-2013, 16:36
I wish they'd quit digging up Sandy Hook and Aurora for their purposes then. Benghazi is much fresher...

RblDiver
05-16-2013, 16:40
OK...I'm confused. What's the difference?
Head-in-the-sand ones just don't pay any attention to anything around them but maintain their ridiculous notions, whereas others feel "enlightened" for watching MSNBC, John Stewart, etc, and maintain their ridiculous notions pointing to these media outlets for vindication. (Like being an idiot vs being an "educated" idiot)

davsel
05-16-2013, 16:52
I'll agree that many liberals are uninformed.

However, I came to a revelation several years ago in that many liberals really do BELIEVE what they are saying. When faced with all the same facts, they come to a very different conclusion, and their conclusion will not change based on facts.

I believe it has everything to do with logic vs emotion.

USAFGopherMike
05-16-2013, 16:54
Old news? The liberals just put off any bad news that doesn't fit their agenda until they can call it "old news"? Sounds like they're reading from the Billary Clinton dance card. Can we just eliminate these morons from the gene pool?

Singlestack
05-16-2013, 17:03
Ronin - seems what you describe are the diffs between LIVs (Low information voters) and self-described liberals/progressives. The LIVs really don't watch or pay attention to the news. All kinds fall into that group - from those who spend all their free time outdoors to the Jersey Shore/dancing with the stars crowd. The Libs/Progressives I know are in touch with the "news" - but almost always only from their vetted sources - MSNBC, Huffington Post, Daily Kos, etc. I have both in my and my wife's extended family. I find that I can sometimes get through to the LIVs, but no chance to the dedicated libs. Even if you can show them facts about something Beeho or others are doing now, if they can't refute the facts you get generalizations like "Republicans/Conservatives have always done the same thing". Saving your breath is always the better option with them.

hghclsswhitetrsh
05-16-2013, 17:08
Are you boning her?

USAFGopherMike
05-16-2013, 17:16
Are you boning her?

If so, reduce non-boning time and institute a "don't open your mouth if it's about politics" policy for said non-boning time.

sniper7
05-16-2013, 17:17
Are you boning her?

Im thinking so. First big fight! Lol

Bailey Guns
05-16-2013, 17:18
Are you boning her?

[LOL] The boy does talk about her a lot. Pretty astute observation!