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vim
11-30-2008, 18:36
I need to get a background check on someone who's come into my family's life. Criminal check especially, credit check if possible -- in short, who is this person. I know at least "minor" run-ins with the law exist in various states, but know nothing beyond that. I have a real name, birth date and place, and Social Security number.

(Not going to get into details here; I hope you understand.)

So, anyone know someone reliable for this kind of thing, and any idea of cost/time?

westy1970
11-30-2008, 20:56
http://www.intelius.com/search-name.php?searchform=background&
$50.00

mightymouse
11-30-2008, 21:08
Drive to the CSP over at 6th and Kipling and its 10.00 to run a background.

Just giving ya options. They're in the rear most red brick 4/5story building on the NE corner.

HunterCO
11-30-2008, 21:45
Go to CBI's web site it takes about five minutes and costs around $6. You have to have all their information to do it.

vim
12-01-2008, 00:20
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I've looked at the CBI stuff and think I need something more comprehensive.

This person has been in the state less than a month. Looking at the CBI page at https://www.cbirecordscheck.com/CBI_New/CBI_newIndex.asp it seems like a lot of detail would be missing. (It has a lot of "State of Colorado only" and "only certain kinds of records" disclaimers.)

This is important to me and mine, and I want the facts beyond what a firearms transfer "go|no-go" will provide. I can't depend on a well-told tale and an easy smile for this one.

If the CBI check available to the public for less than ten bucks does all that, I'm sorry that I'm dense and could use more explanation.

HunterCO
12-01-2008, 04:43
CBI is connected to NCIC that being said if you're that nervous about this person I would cut all ties and call it a day just my .02.

vim
12-01-2008, 09:37
CBI is connected to NCIC that being said if you're that nervous about this person I would cut all ties and call it a day just my .02.

I am tapdancing hard around the details (if nobody has noticed), but me cutting my family's ties with this person is not possible.

Sorry for not laying out all the gory details here. I'm well aware that some may draw the wrong conclusions. It's a serious situation for us and I have very little control over it.

robsterclaw
12-01-2008, 11:45
My suggestion is if it's that important to know all his background you will have to get a PI to do a search. Since you have his real name DOB and social security number it won't be too expensive. You can find PI's online that can do this, but I'd see one in person and explain exactly what you want.

The online people search websites tend to not have all the info available. Some are decent and will even tell you if they have had utilities shut off, but for deeper criminal backgrounds they can miss stuff.

vim
12-01-2008, 15:10
Yup, hence my original post asking for a reference.

For those following along with casual interest in something like this,
I paid for the CBI report (for $6.87, or something like that, why not), and aside from boilerplate disclaimer what it said was

No Colorado Record of arrest has been located based on information provided.

The Colorado Bureau of Investigation's database contains detailed information of arrest records based on fingerprints provided by Colorado law enforcement agencies. Arrests, which are not supported by fingerprints, will not be included in this database. On occasion the Colorado criminal history will contain disposition information provided by the Colorado Judicial system. Additionally, warrant information, sealed records, and juvenile records are not available to the public.

So I still dunno what this does or doesn't include. If CBI is hooked up to NCIC, does this mean the person is clear of felonies nationwide, or do I just know that there's not one in Colorado? [Dunno]

cleaner72
12-01-2008, 23:25
get him drunk and hook his balls up to a car battery..he will tell you all you want to know....lol just kidding...damn my daughter is in trouble when she grows up. Anyways....here is one I have used... http://www.howtoinvestigate.com/background_checks.htm but to be honest, who can say if EVERY infraction is found....some things like drunk in publics and other minor charges wont be found on national background checks...but any felonies or drug charges ect SHOULD be found. All you can do is use this info you find and then use your own judgement and gut feeling. Good Luck my friend....

HunterCO
12-02-2008, 05:11
It's a serious situation for us and I have very little control over it.

That sir was my exact point you have no control so even if god came down from the heavens and gave you what you wish to know what's next????

This brings me back to my original point either you accept it or you don't what is a background check going to solve???

If jesus himslef told you the person is an ax murderer so what!! What is that going to do for you??? I am guessing that a person in you're family has made a poor choice for a companion. My point is no background check will ever change you're family members choice.

I feel you're pain and it sucks to be there but there is nothing you can do about it. I wish you the Best of luck!

vim
12-02-2008, 10:16
FWIW, I'm not sure I'd be completely sympathetic if I was on the other end of this conversation. I probably would make assumptions and draw conclusions based on what I thought I could figure out.

I expected the second-guessing based on lack of detail. This would all be a lot easier to understand if you heard the entire tale. (Maybe not, but I think so.) But this is a public forum and I won't go into the nitty gritty here.

(I'm not a hothead uptight dad flipping out over a beau who doesn't fit the Beaver Cleaver model. If that was your guess, nope. Actually, I've been on the other end of that one.)

Knowing the facts one way or the other is not a bad thing. Nothing I can do? Grin and bear it? Perhaps. But consider the hypothetical case of having questionable but PERHAPS explainable interaction with family elsewhere already on the table. You wouldn't want to put a light on the situation? (Heads of households feel free to role-play this one.)

I can ignore a situation or mash the nuclear button with no discernment at all. Facts help make a good decision and fair policy.

So, why did I even bring this to the forum in so sketchy a form? The sketchiness is to avoid pinpointing a somewhat unusual situation. And I expected someone here might have had a reference to a PI or such, and could vector me in to someone who could do an honest job rather than charge me for a cursory search of incomplete public data.

I poked around on the Internet. And I came to the conclusion that some important databases were not going to be available to me as a member of the public.

And I looked at the particular references suggested (sincere thanks). And I saw some reviews, but I also saw phony testimonials on apparently sister websites giving glowing reviews and pointing to specific products with convenient links. I could see the problem but didn't have my Superman vision to tell the real from the phony.

So I thought a request like my original query would be understandable. [Bang]

I note and appreciate the good wishes/good luck comments. I have one last personal resource to try before I have to throw myself onto the phone book and roll the dice.

Long post. [BooHoo]

vim
12-02-2008, 14:01
All good points, thanks.

Sorry if I sound frustrated. This kind of thing is hard to go through, and there is no magic fix.

DeltaKilo
12-03-2008, 10:54
While I think it would be easier for us if we knew the details, I would probably, in any given situation, contact a good PI. You might even contact your local sheriff's office and ask them for a reference, or a local, reputable law firm. Hell, if you have a good lawyer already on retainer, you might consider contacting him about the situation, since he can give you legal advice and since he's an attorney, he may be able to also get a more comprehensive background check done.

Just my tuppence.

KoalaCowboy
12-03-2008, 14:10
VIM,
I feel for you. Wish there were more 'we' could do to assist, but the situation itself sounds a bit muddied and if what you are searching for, is more information to satiate your soul/peace of mind, you are probably better off hiring an Investigator.

Short of that, you could have a mono-to-mono talk with this individual and basically let that person know that they are under scrutiny and that they better keep their $h!t straight, though that approach may back-fire on you in a whole slew of different ways.

Good luck!

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KoalaCowboy