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UrbanWolf
05-23-2013, 21:35
Someone kick his ass.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/ak-47-semi-automatic-rifle-building-party
I invite Mother Jones to eat the peanuts out of my shit. That guys was a classic case of an informer, no better than the Germans who turned on their own neighbors during the Holocaust.
buckshotbarlow
05-23-2013, 22:12
i'll buy his kit for 100$, price includes shipping...2 much work to get all that gay kalifornia crap off...
Great-Kazoo
05-23-2013, 22:12
If you think he is the only one, think again.
USAFGopherMike
05-23-2013, 22:15
Infringers like this fuck need to be hung up by their toes, tarred and feathered. Someone needs to kick his ass. Only build with those you know you can trust and would trust with your rights.
Who reads Mother Jones? Yes, many people do not know that it is legal to build a firearm for your own personal use.
It is much simpler to remove a serial number from a factory produced gun than it is to produce a firearm without a serial number. I do realize that this simple fact is a huge leap in logical thinking. I believe this difficult logical reasoning is beyond the ability of people who are so ideologically opposed to ANY firearm that they just don't care. Simply put, do you think Mother Jones readers care where the gun is made? Guns are evil, and the people who own them are just as evil. This story is just fodder for proving what they already believe about gun owners.
buckshotbarlow
05-23-2013, 22:17
i guess we should take a video of all his illegal music and movies he has on his pc/mac and make note of that....
If you think he is the only one, think again.
That right there is the scary part- they are bloody organized and do this shit all the time... [Mad]
USAFGopherMike
05-23-2013, 22:22
So how do we weed them out? I have a shovel.
Does anyone read Mother Jones except burned out communist, loser Vegan hippies from the 60's, dressed in ugly hemp clothing, reeking of patchouli because they don't believe in baths or deodorant? Pitiful. At least most of these old fucks will be dead in a few years.
What a tool. Builds a gun, writes a pathetic article full of BS, and then cuts up the gun. Liberals really are fucking stupid. A generalization...but I haven't met one yet to disprove it.
The only plus side out of this- he's the idiot who wasted his time and money. But the bad side, apart from the obvious, that's one less build kit out there. What a douche.
ChunkyMonkey
05-23-2013, 22:33
That reminds me... lets have another build party!
I am curious about how he got into the party to begin with and if they have seen this video?
This is why we have no more build parties..
DavieD55
05-23-2013, 23:17
I invite Mother Jones to eat the peanuts out of my shit. That guys was a classic case of an informer, no better than the Germans who turned on their own neighbors during the Holocaust.
Yup.
Goodburbon
05-23-2013, 23:23
Wow, that author is a real piece of work.
I fail to understand the logic.
Untraceable gun = bad. Why?
It's not like you can run the ballistics on a bullet recovered at a crime scene, track that back to one of 300+ million firearms, trace that back to an original buyer and go and arrest him.
Nor is it possible to reliably trace a firearm found at a crime scene to any owner by serial number, since the original owner may have sold it, gifted it, passed away, etc.
To a liberal it reads as "SEE, this is going on and it's shady, there ought to be a law"
To me I read it as "I'm a douche. Douchieness runs through my veins like blood."
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Great-Kazoo
05-23-2013, 23:27
I am curious about how he got into the party to begin with and if they have seen this video?
Same way flag burning Obama voting dick heads get on gun boards. They register then subtly infect from within. Make a few friends / acquaintances. Next thing you know they're some ones homie and BAM, Shitz popping up web wide.
DavieD55
05-23-2013, 23:28
I would't be surprised if the AK was given to them to use as a prop for their propaganda.
Great-Kazoo
05-23-2013, 23:28
Wow, that author is a real piece of work.
I fail to understand the logic.
Untraceable gun = bad. Why?
It's not like you can run the ballistics on a bullet recovered at a crime scene, track that back to one of 300+ million firearms, trace that back to an original buyer and go and arrest him.
Nor is it possible to reliably trace a firearm found at a crime scene to any owner by serial number, since the original owner may have sold it, gifted it, passed away, etc.
To a liberal it reads as "SEE, this is going on and it's shady, there ought to be a law"
To me I read it as "I'm a douche. Douchieness runs through my veins like blood."
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Oh yes it is. Easier than you think / realize.
Goodburbon
05-23-2013, 23:47
How can that be, there is no registry and the 4473 isn't registration.
:sarcasm:
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Great-Kazoo
05-23-2013, 23:51
How can that be, there is no registry and the 4473 isn't registration.
:sarcasm:
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I'll see your sarcasm and clever retort ya.
ATF - MFG - Vendor - ffl- original buyer - person sold to - next in line. That's not registration it's following the serial number, just like a stolen car. Only with a vehicle they reverse engineer the process.
Registration would be an investigator at every person who ever owned said firearm's home / business at the same date and time.
USAFGopherMike
05-23-2013, 23:53
The force is strong with this one.
Goodburbon
05-23-2013, 23:58
Oh, I know, but prove it. Original buyer sold to a guy in a parking lot in 1972, guy sold it to his neighbor, got stolen, sold, used in a crime.
Reliably trace that to the hand that pulled the trigger, you can't without other evidence.
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Great-Kazoo
05-24-2013, 00:14
Oh, I know, but prove it. Original buyer sold to a guy in a parking lot in 1972, guy sold it to his neighbor, got stolen, sold, used in a crime.
Reliably trace that to the hand that pulled the trigger, you can't without other evidence.
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Or forensic science, witnesses, some nosy neighbor with a video camera or smart phone.
Aloha_Shooter
05-24-2013, 00:59
What interests me is the author of the piece is supposedly in Denver but he attended a build party just outside LA and went to go shoot his new POS just outside LA. So which is it? Or is he another one of those Soros-funded shits who gets someone else to pay the bill for him to live all over the place?
jreifsch80
05-24-2013, 01:08
i used to enjoy build parties, now i just build on my own or with a close friend or two. it's a shame that we're made to feel "shady" while we enjoy our hobby. frankly criminals aren't likely going to take the time to build their "untraceable" ak's..... THEY STEAL THEM! (or buy stolen guns)
Another worthless fuck. The world seems to have more these days...
jreifsch80
05-24-2013, 01:36
i'm just glad he wasn't at a build party where i smell communist cleaning oil to see where it's from, he might have thought i was weird ;)
68Charger
05-24-2013, 06:03
Regarding the destruction of his AK...
Pics or it didn't happen
Regarding the destruction of his AK...
Pics or it didn't happen
Whaaat I totally destroyed it guns r bad mkaaaa
n8tive97
05-24-2013, 07:02
I destroyed all my guns and melted down the metal. I totally bought into all this anti 2nd amendment stuff.
I now live happier and safer knowing the State of Kolorado is protecting me now.
http://youtu.be/XBXKYtD-AHs
WillysWagon
05-24-2013, 07:50
The build parties I hosted or went to all had a bunch of 'good guys'.
Guys from this site and others.
This was many years ago, but it was a blast !!
All my AK's run like a top.
This dude is just a 'tool'.
Just goes to show that it's impossible to truly know the motives of everyone we interact with daily. I'm sure every gun forum has a few members with ulterior motives...
palepainter
05-24-2013, 08:17
i'm just glad he wasn't at a build party where i smell communist cleaning oil to see where it's from, he might have thought i was weird ;)
LOL... Thankfully a few of us got to witness your expertise there Justin. ;)
USAFGopherMike
05-24-2013, 09:11
It's a good thing none of us know this guy or where he lives. Could be made "uncomfortable".
kawiracer14
05-24-2013, 09:25
It sounded like the folks at the party knew he was there - since he said none of them wanted their name used. Perhaps he lied and said he was from a Pro 2A organization
DavieD55
05-24-2013, 09:30
I wanna go build an AK now that I saw this.
electronman1729
05-24-2013, 09:46
Was bored at work so I did a little trolling and cam across this rather interesting piece
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/ak-47-build-your-own-mother-jones-reporter_n_3331420.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/ak-47-build-your-own-mother-jones-reporter_n_3331420.html)
Discuss
Wouldn't something like this be illegal in California?
SuperiorDG
05-24-2013, 09:48
Repost
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/104473-Spy-at-AK-build-party
buckshotbarlow
05-24-2013, 10:06
ROFLMAO...
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Aloha_Shooter
05-24-2013, 10:09
Puffington Host and "great read" ... isn't that an oxymoron?
buckshotbarlow
05-24-2013, 10:13
28427
this poster is just a tard...
kawiracer14
05-24-2013, 10:17
I like his tag line "Democrats create jobs and build strong economies" .... yeah that seems to be working well......
UrbanWolf
05-24-2013, 10:30
i'm just glad he wasn't at a build party where i smell communist cleaning oil to see where it's from, he might have thought i was weird ;)
He'll report you to police like that cab driver.
UrbanWolf
05-24-2013, 10:53
Repost
http://www.ar-15.co/threads/104473-Spy-at-AK-build-party
That is my post dude!!!!
UrbanWolf
05-24-2013, 10:56
I like how the guy never mentioned a thing about how you have to get a background check to buy the receiver.
I wanna go build an AK now that I saw this.
Funny... I had the same thought. Pretty sure that was not his intent...Good!
mountainjenny
05-24-2013, 11:11
I wanna go build an AK now that I saw this.
Me too! Build party anyone? [Flower]
OneGuy67
05-24-2013, 11:12
The build parties I hosted or went to all had a bunch of 'good guys'.
Guys from this site and others.
This was many years ago, but it was a blast !!
All my AK's run like a top.
This dude is just a 'tool'.
+1 on this. I am grateful to the boys up north who lent me their knowledge to build. Now, I have a new hobby.
Great-Kazoo
05-24-2013, 11:12
I like how the guy never mentioned a thing about how you have to get a background check to buy the receiver.
Only a BG check for an actual receiver. The receiver flat is nothing more than a piece of steel, until you bend it.
Cool. When is the next NoCO build party?!
Great-Kazoo
05-24-2013, 12:50
Cool. When is the next NoCO build party?!
There are no more.
WillysWagon
05-24-2013, 13:36
I sold off all my jigs, rivet crushers and whatnot after I built my last one.
I still have my headspacing gauges to use before a range session, just to make sure it's all good.
Cool. When is the next NoCO build party?!
This story is exactly why we don't have any more.
mikedubs
05-24-2013, 20:53
Was bored at work so I did a little trolling and cam across this rather interesting piece
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/ak-47-build-your-own-mother-jones-reporter_n_3331420.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/24/ak-47-build-your-own-mother-jones-reporter_n_3331420.html)
Discuss
It's damn good to see Huffpost is no longer made up exclusively of fearful, uncomprehending crybabies.
They infiltrate us, we infiltrate them.
Kraven251
05-24-2013, 21:40
Part of me is interested in an AK now, but it's one more round to track down and a whole lot of magazines to find before 7/1, though would be fun to do it, just to do it
I'd love to get invited to a build party.
However, I think everyone who attends should have to bring an AR they already own at a minimum. CC permit would be preferred.
hurley842002
05-25-2013, 14:14
I'd love to get invited to a build party.
However, I think everyone who attends should have to bring an AR they already own at a minimum. CC permit would be preferred.
Agreed! I need to build an AK to gift to my baby boy that's about to be born!
UrbanWolf
05-25-2013, 15:59
I'd love to get invited to a build party.
However, I think everyone who attends should have to bring an AR they already own at a minimum. CC permit would be preferred.
Careful, that give reason for doped Libs to steal an AR and blame on the host.
osok-308
05-31-2013, 12:38
This is infuriating, I watched the video. This pisses me off, especially because a buddy and I are looking into building AKs now.
Goodburbon
06-01-2013, 17:02
There are no more.
Say it ain't so! I was really looking forward to getting up your way again and cobbling something together.
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ChunkyMonkey
06-01-2013, 20:35
Agreed! I need to build an AK to gift to my baby boy that's about to be born!
You meant your baby will be building it ;)
jerrymrc
06-01-2013, 20:49
Speaking of build parties it was so long ago (2007-2008) I have no idea who's house I went to to build my last one. I know it was in denver and in a garage. I do remember the host liked my red furniture.
Had to go look. It was by hkOrion (http://www.ar-15.co/members/915-hkOrion). Does not post much here anymore but still active.
Great-Kazoo
06-01-2013, 21:39
Say it ain't so! I was really looking forward to getting up your way again and cobbling something together.
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So.
Long story, bottom line is the POTENTIAL hassle ain't worth it.
Having a good time with friends old & new use to be something to look forward to. NOWADAZE it's like having a party and NOT SUPPLYING ALCOHOL . Just because someone left, hit the bar and liquor store, had an accident and can only remember the party you had.[Bang]
Goodburbon
06-01-2013, 22:08
Then we have already lost our rights, laws or not.
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funkymonkey1111
04-13-2014, 08:15
well, if any AK build parties start up, i'd be interested--surely there's a reasonable vetting process for forum members, CCW checks, bring some hardware as proof, whatever.
10mm-man
04-13-2014, 10:36
Can Ak parts be found? Source.
Great-Kazoo
04-13-2014, 10:42
Can Ak parts be found? Source.
yes
ChunkyMonkey
04-13-2014, 11:01
#1 rule of ak build party is.....
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thedave1164
04-13-2014, 11:02
There are infiltrators/provocateurs all over any more.
I have been to meetings of well intentioned patriots recently and there always seemed to be one or two that I did not trust.
Vigilance is the word of the day.
Great-Kazoo
04-13-2014, 11:21
#1 rule of ak build party is.....
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Don't host one
#1 rule of ak build party is.....
Let everyone know?
UrbanWolf
04-14-2014, 10:30
Zombie!!!
funkymonkey1111
04-14-2014, 10:43
I love this Zombie nonsense. Somebody brings up an issue without searching, and the repost a-holes are on you like stink on shit. Then you post in a relevant thread on a continuing topic to address the folks directly involved in what you're interested in, and you get not one, but two "zombie" references.
I love this Zombie nonsense. Somebody brings up an issue without searching, and the repost a-holes are on you like stink on shit. Then you post in a relevant thread on a continuing topic to address the folks directly involved in what you're interested in, and you get not one, but two "zombie" references.
Can't stop the haters. I was glad this came back up. If somebody puts this together I would love to have another AK.
68Charger
04-14-2014, 17:57
I love this Zombie nonsense. Somebody brings up an issue without searching, and the repost a-holes are on you like stink on shit. Then you post in a relevant thread on a continuing topic to address the folks directly involved in what you're interested in, and you get not one, but two "zombie" references.
Don't sweat it, I saw it more as "hmm, the season for working in the garage with our hands, hammering plowshares into weapons is upon us, wonder if anyone would host again?"
I'll contact some of my friends who I've done builds with before- we may be able to put something together this summer... just not as public, maybe. (maybe a sponsor/referral system, or a form you have to sign that agrees to paying fees for "publishing" information about a private meeting/party of say, $1 per word to each attendee?)
I'm not the type to be concerned as long as there are no false accusations- because there won't be any laws broken... strict rule that once you bend it, it's only handled by you. (but all the tools required will be around in the garage, and people who know how to do it will be talking about how it's done)
Plus I know where there's a garage that is within walking distance of a range... [Coffee]
osok-308
04-14-2014, 17:59
#1 rule of ak build party is.....
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Hire irish mobsters to follow everyone for a while after the party to make sure they're legit!
Great-Kazoo
04-14-2014, 18:00
. (but all the tools required will be around in the garage, and people who know how to do it will be talking about how it's done)
Plus I know where there's a garage that is within walking distance of a range... [Coffee]
make sure they bring their own tools [ punches etc] i'm still waiting for drill bits and punches to be replaced. Only going on 4 yrs now. The OOPS get old real quick.
68Charger
04-14-2014, 18:52
make sure they bring their own tools [ punches etc] i'm still waiting for drill bits and punches to be replaced. Only going on 4 yrs now. The OOPS get old real quick.
I hear you... but my philosophy is that whenever you're teaching, tools get broken... I keep a necked-down 5/16" end-mill that I personally broke on top of my mill to remind me... we all have had to learn sometime!
but when I've had people over to learn a new skill, I have actually netted more tools left behind than broken in the past... Offered to return them, but it wasn't worth the drive to them for some reason... [Beer]
If you're not in it for profit (and a host can't be), then loosing a few (inexpensive) tools isn't a problem...
I've sent a PM to some that I know personally from other parties, it's just an idea at this point... maybe it won't go anywhere.
Great-Kazoo
04-14-2014, 18:53
I hear you... but my philosophy is that whenever you're teaching, tools get broken... I keep a necked-down 5/16" end-mill that I personally broke on top of my mill to remind me... we all have had to learn sometime!
but when I've had people over to learn a new skill, I have actually netted more tools left behind than broken in the past... Offered to return them, but it wasn't worth the drive to them for some reason... [Beer]
If you're not in it for profit (and a host can't be), then loosing a few (inexpensive) tools isn't a problem...
I've sent a PM to some that I know personally from other parties, it's just an idea at this point... maybe it won't go anywhere.
When they ask if you'd like it replaced and not do anything. Why ask.
GunsRBadMMMMKay
04-14-2014, 18:59
I hear you... but my philosophy is that whenever you're teaching, tools get broken...
Do I owe you any drill bits?
68Charger
04-14-2014, 19:26
When they ask if you'd like it replaced and not do anything. Why ask.
I don't have an answer other than I <Personally> wouldn't ask unless I was going to follow through... off memory, I'll refer to Sniper7's sig line...
Do I owe you any drill bits?
LOL, I'll answer that with: do you want to pick up your Dremel or your needlenose pliers?
Some may be shocked I remember- but I used your Dremel last week on a cast iron housing that I was welding for my tractor (it was handy to have 2 Dremels, with different bits loaded... so you came to mind recently.)
I'd consider the use I have gotten out of them as payment for any bits you broke... that I didn't demand be replaced (since another volunteer brought them)... so you're still welcome to pick them up!
If this thread was about avoiding publicity about previous events, I think I've failed, [ROFL2][ROFL3]
GunsRBadMMMMKay
04-14-2014, 21:18
I don't have an answer other than I <Personally> wouldn't ask unless I was going to follow through... off memory, I'll refer to Sniper7's sig line...
LOL, I'll answer that with: do you want to pick up your Dremel or your needlenose pliers?
Some may be shocked I remember- but I used your Dremel last week on a cast iron housing that I was welding for my tractor (it was handy to have 2 Dremels, with different bits loaded... so you came to mind recently.)
I'd consider the use I have gotten out of them as payment for any bits you broke... that I didn't demand be replaced (since another volunteer brought them)... so you're still welcome to pick them up!
If this thread was about avoiding publicity about previous events, I think I've failed, [ROFL2][ROFL3]
I forgot about that dremel................lol. And i have no idea what your talking about, with the previous events and all....i just remembered drilling something a little too hard for the bits a bit too fast, repeatedly, without lube - until someone had to bust out with the good bits.
I need to find a decent kit so my kid can finish what he started.....i picked up a sar kit a while back but couldn't pass up the chance to nearly triple my money on gunbroker during a crazy period so it got sold (it's called free market opportunity, not price gouging ;) ).
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