View Full Version : 20,000 uniformed troops inside the US by 2011
libertyordeath
12-02-2008, 15:33
anyone catch this yesterday?
Pentagon to Detail Troops to Bolster Domestic Security (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/30/AR2008113002217_pf.html)
"There are critics of the change, in the military and among civil liberties groups and libertarians who express concern that the new homeland emphasis threatens to strain the military and possibly undermine the Posse Comitatus Act, a 130-year-old federal law restricting the military's role in domestic law enforcement."
for domestic security? what the hell is this? exactly how many steps is it from "domestic security" to "martial law"? i'm certainly not a conspiracty nut, but all it will take is somebody to do something stupid, and then, then we have problems... doesn't anybody study history anymore? am i the only one who sees how dangerous this is?
westy1970
12-02-2008, 15:37
Shh... Go back to sleep.
I've been shouting this was going to happen and you told me I was full of shit
westy1970
12-02-2008, 15:49
Your waking people up. Shh....
Michelle Obama was right about one thing, Barack will never let our lives go back to normal.
I hope tin foil is cheap...
So when the next Sept 11th rolls around are you going to be crying about these 20,000 troops?
Aloha_Shooter
12-02-2008, 19:03
I've been shouting this was going to happen and you told me I was full of shit
You are.
So, who "exactly" will the U.S. Military Domestic Security Force be deployed against? Are their orders to shoot to kill? Or will they just round up "domestics" and herd them off to concentration ...... er, I mean "rehabilition" camps?
Who are their targeted "enemies"? Would the enemy be the names on a list? A list of registered gun owners?
This is not something you should take lightly, nor is it a joking matter.
Hmmm, 2011?,, Washington Post??
Isn't the drawdown in Iraq supose to happen then..
There's what 5-6 divisons over there, about 5000 troops per,, Yeah, that sounds about right..
And considering the source,, Don't think I need the tinfoil for that one..
robsterclaw
12-02-2008, 20:03
I say put the 20,000 troops along the southern border with the order to fire at will. Shore up that easy access for illegals and drug runners. That will sure help national security.
I say put the 20,000 troops along the southern border with the order to fire at will. Shore up that easy access for illegals and drug runners. That will sure help national security.
The Government wants the illegals here. The military is here control us. The dollar will crash soon and the amero will be introduced.The country is on the brink of total facist dictatorship.
You are.
I'll accept your appoligy at the FEMA camp. Also troop occupation is timed with the end of Posse Comitatus. Start looking at all the pieces. Pariots unite
westy1970
12-02-2008, 21:05
The 5-6 Divisions are not coming home but redeploying to Afganistan. There is nothing troublesome with the article, just move along.
What ever the intentions are of this government is debatable, but regardless I don't like were things are going.
Aloha_Shooter. Is this guy full of shit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
68Charger
12-02-2008, 21:40
Your waking people up. Shh....
The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so injured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
Sorry, you reminded me of that line...
I'm one of those annoying guys that can carry on an entire conversation using only quotes from movies...[Stooge]
The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so injured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
Sorry, you reminded me of that line...
I'm one of those annoying guys that can carry on an entire conversation using only quotes from movies...[Stooge]
You remind me of my brother.
"I hate Illinois Nazis."
These volunteer troops wouldn't attack their fellow countrymen, even if they were given orders to do so.
These volunteer troops wouldn't attack their fellow countrymen, even if they were given orders to do so.
That's not fact, just an opinion, and not one that I'm willing to bet my life on. Like someone on here said, "You'd better be ready when the zombies come."
Of course it's my opinion. That's why I wrote it. Otherwise, I would have documented my source. You trying to horn in on my action as "Master of the Obvious"?
I never said I wasn't ready. I just don't see my brother-in-law holding me at bayonet point.
Just because you think Northcom is out to get you, doesent mean they arent.
I suggest you add a few layers to your foil hat.
Did you know we have started painting satellites black now?
westy1970
12-03-2008, 09:42
I don't what you guys are so worried about. The Government is here to help and protect us. They would never violate our civil rights again. They have learned their lessons so we should just back off being worried about it.
You trying to horn in on my action as "Master of the Obvious"?
My appologies. I didn't realize that position was already filled. [NoClue]
I never said I wasn't ready.
We need to be more than just equipment ready. We need to be psychologically ready. We could be forced into a position to do things tomorrow, that are unthinkable today. All the firepower in the world is worthless if you're not mentally prepared to pull the trigger.
Pistol Packing Preacher
12-03-2008, 10:35
I don't what you guys are so worried about. The Government is here to help and protect us. They would never violate our civil rights again. They have learned their lessons so we should just back off being worried about it.
Yep, Remember Katrina....
"I'm from the Government... I'm here to help you"
Oxymorons!
FFS .. you tards are acting like we don't have somewhere close to 650,000 troops state side. oooohhh beware.
Some of you guys really need to remove your head from your fourth point of contact, surgically if needed because they sure do seem lodged.
I swear these are the threads that really make me worry about what level of over arching stupidity some of you live in.
I have forsaken the tinfoil for kevlar...
FFS .. you tards are acting like we don't have somewhere close to 650,000 troops state side. oooohhh beware.
Some of you guys really need to remove your head from your fourth point of contact, surgically if needed because they sure do seem lodged.
I swear these are the threads that really make me worry about what level of over arching stupidity some of you live in.
Oh Wise one we know where the troops live as some have served,you must have to make the Airborne comment. It's their AO that worries us & the fact that troops will be used for domestic policing.
FFS .. you tards are acting like we don't have somewhere close to 650,000 troops state side. oooohhh beware.
Some of you guys really need to remove your head from your fourth point of contact, surgically if needed because they sure do seem lodged.
I swear these are the threads that really make me worry about what level of over arching stupidity some of you live in.
Oh Wise one we know where the troops live as some have served,you must have too, to have made the Airborne reference. It's their AO that worries us & the fact that troops will be used for domestic policing.
The truth is in your face, your country is coming to it's end, Bankers stole 8,000,000,000,000 thus far from the tax payer. Globalist(who own the Fed Res) will control this country by the end of next year.
Fed Reserve controls us,, and it will be them that makes us bow to their commands...
NASA, some things just don't need to be said at all on a public forum. When the time comes, you'll know.
Until then, keep your powder dry.
HunterCO
12-04-2008, 01:13
I am selling all my guns tomarrow and ordering a semi truck of reynolds wrap I am good to go.
Please somebody tell me reynolds wrap is the best brand. [Help]
Make sure you get the heavy duty variety. It's thicker.
68Charger
12-04-2008, 08:08
Make sure you get the heavy duty variety. It's thicker.
lowers are thicker aluminum than any brand of foil... [Coffee]
Pistol Packing Preacher
12-04-2008, 08:27
...uninformed troops?
The Boardwalk brand is better .. they are a smaller more detail oriented company.. support small American companies rather than the massive international conglomerates!!!
Phooey on Reynolds!
So Jericho was a precursor to our near future?
Private security firms are also being utilized by our glorious gubment,,, just in case.
Did someone mention government security? If you want to figure out what that looks like, and how effective it might be, just look at the TSA. [Faint]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDDxOBRHZ7o&eurl=http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-2624-0-8-8--.html
westy1970
12-14-2008, 11:07
Why is this Infantry and not CSS if the mission were support or WMD? Oh,well. The Government will take care of it. [ROLL]
aloharover
12-15-2008, 15:31
That's not fact, just an opinion, and not one that I'm willing to bet my life on. Like someone on here said, "You'd better be ready when the zombies come."
Soo, you think your child will pull the trigger?
Have they started telling you how all the folks in their unit would do so?
Did anyone even read the article linked? You know that this has been something in the works for years? In many states there already exist CBRNE teams in place with in the national Guard?
Why Would they read it? Tin foil caps are easier...[Neene1]
Besides,[Train] are so much fun too watch...
aloharover
12-15-2008, 15:38
Why is this Infantry and not CSS if the mission were support or WMD? Oh,well. The Government will take care of it. [ROLL]
Its not just one or the other, its both. The idea is that a single BCT contains the bodies needed to perform the mission. Its already a self contained unit, with a single C2 structure in place. The unit is going through additional training to support this new role. And they are still trying to determine if the response team would be active or Guard. There are many that believe its more of a Guard type mission, however the AD side has the time and money to train up and respond quicker.
This is a new assignment for units that will rotate between CONUS units. Its an additional duty if you will, with out any increase in the size of the force, or restructuring.
Do you know of a CSS Brigade?
westy1970
12-15-2008, 15:51
Do you know of a CSS Brigade?Fair enough. I don't. My time on AD I was a lower EM and not privy to larger scale stuff.
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