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Rabid
06-01-2013, 19:08
FBI demands customer data from Google without a warrant and judge says it is constitutional...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/05/31/judge-google-fbi/2378799/

I am not the tin foil type but this is going overboard.

BushMasterBoy
06-01-2013, 19:42
Just noticed the .gov out of control?

Rabid
06-01-2013, 20:02
I have known it was out of control but this is pretty much a warrantless search of every house in America that has internet. Just think how much info is stored about you in their data centers. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2219188/Inside-Google-pictures-gives-look-8-vast-data-centres.html

Kraven251
06-01-2013, 20:29
Every websearch by IP for years.

hatidua
06-01-2013, 20:42
"A federal judge has ordered Google to comply with FBI warrantless demands for customer data."

-feds granting authority to feds. Makes perfect sense, it's like Congress voting themselves a pay raise, it shouldn't surprise anyone at all.

firefighter238
06-01-2013, 20:55
Wow.....shocked face

buffalobo
06-01-2013, 20:57
Another step on the path...

Aloha_Shooter
06-01-2013, 20:57
Of course, Google will be happy to SELL same said information on you to fsb.ru and pla.cn ...

BushMasterBoy
06-01-2013, 21:08
This just until the NSA data center in Utah is up and running...then they will be able to brute force hack into any computer they want. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Williams

Aloha_Shooter
06-01-2013, 21:19
This just until the NSA data center in Utah is up and running...then they will be able to brute force hack into any computer they want. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Williams

It would be helpful if you actually use tin in that tinfoil hat instead of lead; it'll keep the hat from creating cranium rectal inversion syndrome. A data center needs petabytes upon petabytes of fast-access storage. Brute-force cracking needs computational power, fast data entry and a victim that doesn't do things like lock out IPs for time-cycles after 3-4 failed attempts.

BushMasterBoy
06-01-2013, 21:36
It would be helpful if you actually use tin in that tinfoil hat instead of lead; it'll keep the hat from creating cranium rectal inversion syndrome. A data center needs petabytes upon petabytes of fast-access storage. Brute-force cracking needs computational power, fast data entry and a victim that doesn't do things like lock out IPs for time-cycles after 3-4 failed attempts.
Wow we got somebody with a Doctorate of Electronic Engineering! Sheer genius! So enlightening! Did you know that the "digital rectal exam" does NOT require a computer?

Kraven251
06-01-2013, 22:27
It would be helpful if you actually use tin in that tinfoil hat instead of lead; it'll keep the hat from creating cranium rectal inversion syndrome. A data center needs petabytes upon petabytes of fast-access storage. Brute-force cracking needs computational power, fast data entry and a victim that doesn't do things like lock out IPs for time-cycles after 3-4 failed attempts.

Of course, who needs to hack anything there are very few companies that have actually told the fed "no" the hooks and monitoring are already there in many systems, because it was easier to comply than fight. Granted there is also the capture of raw data streams for analysis, much harder and inefficient, but if you have the processing power and the time you can peel pretty much any onion.

Byte Stryke
06-02-2013, 03:56
Grey state in 3...2...1...

Skully
06-02-2013, 07:36
It is one of the prices we are paying now for allowing those in trading our "Freedoms/privacy" for the delusion of Security after 9/11.

palepainter
06-02-2013, 07:57
I am sure
my search for making black powder won't end up well.

buckshotbarlow
06-02-2013, 08:29
someone mentioned ixquick, thank you for the recommendation. I'm in the process of migration everything off of google/comcast/blah blah blah and to have it running at the house in a dmz behind 2 firewalls...

tinfoil is now covering my 4 servers...

mbl
06-02-2013, 08:52
I have been using ixquick for several years. My experience has been that it finds as good as Google. Ixquick also has a service that queries Google while protecting you. There is a link on the ixquick page. I think it is called "Startpage" or something similar.

My opinion of google very low and do everything I can to avoid Google tools. They keep too much data about their users, in my opinion. And they seem more than willing to share any and all data with the gov.

Kraven251
06-02-2013, 08:54
imagine all those searches that were made on WTC, Boston Marathon, any research on flight sims, any of it, not to mention email.

the first pass will be insane, then you have the other abuse of power of collecting any elicit mails between consenting adults ...that will pop up as blackmail sometime later, this is an epic powerplay

Aloha_Shooter
06-02-2013, 09:28
My opinion of google very low and do everything I can to avoid Google tools. They keep too much data about their users, in my opinion. And they seem more than willing to sell any and all data to the highest bidder.

Agreed after the fix.

sniper7
06-02-2013, 15:15
Guess some of my searches will piss off the wife when they tell her!

Hound
06-02-2013, 16:30
The1st, 2nd and 4th are under direct attack. The checks and balances are being dissolved.

Dingo
06-02-2013, 16:32
Guess some of my searches will piss off the wife when they tell her!

Nah, just tell her that you're pursuing an online anthropology degree, and that midget amputee-on-goat porn is just one of many academically relevant avenues of research for your thesis...

Jer
06-02-2013, 23:43
This seems appropriate:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/10fff40f36d04b53a9400c44eca72673/tumblr_mfxocyuzot1rdcpgro1_1280.jpg

Gman
06-03-2013, 07:04
The .gov has back-doors pretty much built into everything already. Communist China is just a bit more clumsy about it.