Heat win back to back!

[Jer]

Witness.

http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/06/21/1371787955000-USP-NBA-Finals-San-Antonio-Spurs-at-Miami-Heat-029-1306210015_4_3_rx383_c540x380.jpg?553efe1954dfb7d1 a113a4c5cf7c04bfaead0983

[Rooskibar03]

White hot? Me thinks not.

[Jer]

White hot? Me thinks not.

No? Three straight Finals and two championships in a row are pedestrian?

[sniper7]

Meh....

[02ducky]

Yeah Meh, who care? LJ and for that matter all sports related figures are a bunch of overpaid cry babies in my opinion.

[Graves]

Meh....

Yep...can't say I give a shit about basketball these days.

[Dave_L]

LBJ is good, no doubt. But I still won't put him any where near Jordan. I don't know why but there's something off with him. He just doesn't seem to have that same mentality as Jordan. I can't quite put my finger on it. Good job to the heat, none the less. Ginobli KILLED the spurs last night.

[Jer]

Well thanks for wasting your time to state things you don't like gentleman. I'll be sure to look over all your posts, find something you enjoy and take the time to talk about how much I don't like it.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I don't like the heat... But I will admit, taking any championship back to back is impressive. Good job to them.

[Sawin]

haha, sorry Jer. The NBA could dissolve and I think most of us here wouldn't notice or care much at all. [Slap]

[Jer]

LBJ is good, no doubt. But I still won't put him any where near Jordan. I don't know why but there's something off with him. He just doesn't seem to have that same mentality as Jordan. I can't quite put my finger on it. Good job to the heat, none the less. Ginobli KILLED the spurs last night.

I won't say his body of work beats MJ's body of work but he's WELL on his way and we'll talk when Lebron hangs 'em up for good over a decade from now.

Two league MVPs in a row
Three NBA Finals in a row
Two Championships in a row
Two Finals MVPs in a row
And throw an Olympic gold medal in the middle of all of that


Want more?
Four straight game 7's with 30+ points
Highest NBA finals point average
Two finals triple doubles
More clutch shots (tie or go ahead) and higher percentage than anyone else in the league since he came into the NBA
27 straight wins (Longest is 32 during a season when the ABA had the good players)
Only the 2nd time in league history someone averaged 27pts, 12rebs & 7 assists in the finals... the other player? Lebron James last year.


He should be defensive player of the year the last few seasons too. He's the only player that you can put on the other team's best player defensively and have him shut them down regardless of position. Parker tonight went 3-12 for 10 points while he was scoring 37pts and 12 rebounds. His defense is the most underrated part of his game and the list of people who can do what he does defensively while producing on the offensive end at the same time is slim to none.


On top of that the dude never has problems off the court and says all the right things when asked and steered towards saying the wrong things by the media trying to break a story at the expense of athletes.


Oh yeah... and he's 28 years old.


What's not to like?

[Jer]

I don't like the heat... But I will admit, taking any championship back to back is impressive. Good job to them.

I can appreciate that statement. I'm the same way, there's certain teams or people I dislike for whatever reason but I can appreciate what they've done or what they do and give credit where credit is due. Tom Brady drives me nuts but damn that dude is a good NFL quarterback. The Patriots drive me nuts but damn are they a solid franchise. I'm not going to try to discredit what he or they have done just because I don't like them because that's just foolish. It amazes me how many people try to discredit what Lebron has done and is doing as mediocre or pedestrian.

[Jer]

haha, sorry Jer. The NBA could dissolve and I think most of us here wouldn't notice or care much at all. [Slap]

I understand. So why take the time to post in a thread clearly about the NBA? Personally, I have better things to do than spend time seeking out things I don't like on the internet to post how much I don't like them.

If you don't have anything nice to say....

[MED]

Yuck!

[MED]

LBJ is good, no doubt. But I still won't put him any where near Jordan. I don't know why but there's something off with him. He just doesn't seem to have that same mentality as Jordan. I can't quite put my finger on it. Good job to the heat, none the less. Ginobli KILLED the spurs last night.

Michael Jordan never choked in the playoffs (James did...or threw it); he will never be up there with the greats. He is a self-centered prick who had to surround himself with his super-star friends to make something of himself.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I can appreciate that statement. I'm the same way, there's certain teams or people I dislike for whatever reason but I can appreciate what they've done or what they do and give credit where credit is due. Tom Brady drives me nuts but damn that dude is a good NFL quarterback. The Patriots drive me nuts but damn are they a solid franchise. I'm not going to try to discredit what he or they have done just because I don't like them because that's just foolish. It amazes me how many people try to discredit what Lebron has done and is doing as mediocre or pedestrian.

Yeah. My reason for disliking the heat... The big huge show when Lebron signed with them... Was all that REALLY necessary?

It's like the Red Wings... I hate them. But damn they are/were good.

Sidney Crosby... Hate that little pussy bitch with a passion... But he's a damn good player.

Alex Ovechkin... Horribly dirty player who needs to get his shit kicked in... Damn good player.

[Jer]

Yeah. My reason for disliking the heat... The big huge show when Lebron signed with them... Was all that REALLY necessary?

Are you talking about 'The Decision' or the parade where they said 'Not 1, not 2, not 3...' ??

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Are you talking about 'The Decision' or the parade where they said 'Not 1, not 2, not 3...' ??


The whole damn thing. It was this huge thing.. The "Not 1, not 2, not 3" thing was kind of a cap on the whole thing.

[Jer]

The whole damn thing. It was this huge thing.. The "Not 1, not 2, not 3" thing was kind of a cap on the whole thing.

The Decision raised millions for charity out if thin air. People want to hate him so nobody mentions the motivation behind doing because it paints him as the genuinely good dude that he is. I get the 'Not 1, not 2, not 3...' thing because it seems a bit arrogant on the surface but let's not forget where it took place... at a Miami Heat fan pep rally. You always say stuff like that at fan appreciation events but he's the only one criticized for it. I mean seriously, the dude has been the 2nd most popular athlete (behind Tiger Woods until recently when he took the lead) worldwide and THIS is the worst the can drum up on him? That alone has got to be worth something. He lives in an era where every single play is criticized via social media and he's expected to be perfect on every single play. He's not. Nobody is. Jordan had finals games where he went 6-29 but nobody mentions those. Lebron averages very nearly a triple double in finals yet that's somehow garbage. It seems to me that that is the first person to come along since MJ that when it's all said and done would rival and even surpass MJ in many categories and I think lots of people want to hate simply for that reason. While they're hating and sulking I'm being entertained by one of the greatest athletes of our generation.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

The Decision raised millions for charity out if thin air. People want to hate him so nobody mentions the motivation behind doing because it paints him as the genuinely good dude that he is. I get the 'Not 1, not 2, not 3...' thing because it seems a bit arrogant on the surface but let's not forget where it took place... at a Miami Heat fan pep rally. You always say stuff like that at fan appreciation events but he's the only one criticized for it. I mean seriously, the dude has been the 2nd most popular athlete (behind Tiger Woods until recently when he took the lead) worldwide and THIS is the worst the can drum up on him? That alone has got to be worth something. He lives in an era where every single play is criticized via social media and he's expected to be perfect on every single play. He's not. Nobody is. Jordan had finals games where he went 6-29 but nobody mentions those. Lebron averages very nearly a triple double in finals yet that's somehow garbage. It seems to me that that is the first person to come along since MJ that when it's all said and done would rival and even surpass MJ in many categories and I think lots of people want to hate simply for that reason. While they're hating and sulking I'm being entertained by one of the greatest athletes of our generation.


I'm not blaming him. I don't dislike him.

I dislike the big huge deal it turned into.

Just like I hate how ESPN has skipped over everything hockey for the last few years. And how Tebow still makes the front page of ESPN.

Do you know how far I had to dig to find anything about Roy Oswalt's game last night? Pretty friggin far...


Roy Oswalt came back to the bigs and struck out 11, yes ELEVEN, Nationals Players in 5 innings...

Zimmerman, who is getting all the attention, struck out 9... IN EIGHT INNINGS!!!!!

I hate the bias.

[Jer]

I'm not blaming him. I don't dislike him.

I dislike the big huge deal it turned into.

Just like I hate how ESPN has skipped over everything hockey for the last few years. And how Tebow still makes the front page of ESPN.

Do you know how far I had to dig to find anything about Roy Oswalt's game last night? Pretty friggin far...


Roy Oswalt came back to the bigs and struck out 11, yes ELEVEN, Nationals Players in 5 innings...

Zimmerman, who is getting all the attention, struck out 9... IN EIGHT INNINGS!!!!!

I hate the bias.

I can agree with that although I think the Tebow coverage was WAY more annoying than the Lebron coverage or lack of NHL coverage. At least Lebron has accomplished something. Hell, Tebow barely plays in his own sport. Oh, and baseball sucks so who cares? lulz

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I can agree with that although I think the Tebow coverage was WAY more annoying than the Lebron coverage or lack of NHL coverage. At least Lebron has accomplished something. Hell, Tebow barely plays in his own sport. Oh, and baseball sucks so who cares? lulz

Baseball isn't for everyone... But the NBA... Biggest pussy sport out there...

[Jer]

Baseball isn't for everyone... But the NBA... Biggest pussy sport out there...

You spelled soccer wrong.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

You spelled soccer wrong.

Soccer is up there too... But even soccer allows more body contact than NBA... Ever seen a properly executed slide tackle in soccer?

[Dave_L]

And here comes the soccer hate...

[Jer]

Soccer is up there too... But even soccer allows more body contact than NBA... Ever seen a properly executed slide tackle in soccer?

No but I seen guys who aren't even touched go flying and then allow themselves to be carried out on stretchers.


And here comes the soccer hate...

lol

[JM Ver. 2.0]

No but I seen guys who aren't even touched go flying and then allow themselves to be carried out on stretchers.



lol

And yet in Basketball they had to start dishing out fines to stop the flop..... [ROFL3]

[Jer]

And yet in Basketball they had to start dishing out fines to stop the flop..... [ROFL3]

They're just taking a pro-active stance on it. Soccer has made it part of the game and glorified it.

[Madeinhb]

I won't say his body of work beats MJ's body of work but he's WELL on his way and we'll talk when Lebron hangs 'em up for good over a decade from now.

Two league MVPs in a row
Three NBA Finals in a row
Two Championships in a row
Two Finals MVPs in a row
And throw an Olympic gold medal in the middle of all of that


Want more?
Four straight game 7's with 30+ points
Highest NBA finals point average
Two finals triple doubles
More clutch shots (tie or go ahead) and higher percentage than anyone else in the league since he came into the NBA
27 straight wins (Longest is 32 during a season when the ABA had the good players)
Only the 2nd time in league history someone averaged 27pts, 12rebs & 7 assists in the finals... the other player? Lebron James last year.


He should be defensive player of the year the last few seasons too. He's the only player that you can put on the other team's best player defensively and have him shut them down regardless of position. Parker tonight went 3-12 for 10 points while he was scoring 37pts and 12 rebounds. His defense is the most underrated part of his game and the list of people who can do what he does defensively while producing on the offensive end at the same time is slim to none.


On top of that the dude never has problems off the court and says all the right things when asked and steered towards saying the wrong things by the media trying to break a story at the expense of athletes.


Oh yeah... and he's 28 years old.


What's not to like?

Lets face it. Today's players are nothing. Jordan played in era that was more physical. (Kurt Rambis being head hunted by celtics) Lebron is a great player, but lets face it, the competition isn't there anymore. Take Pippen, Bowen, etc in their prime and put them on Lebron, I don't see Lebron as the offensive player he is today.

[Jer]

That has to be the worst argument of all... the competition is worse. BS man. Basketball has become a more popular sport since that era (due in large part to that area) and now better athletes and have been playing since childhood and on top of that all of the world's talent is now in the NBA. The best international player of that era was Kukoc and he was on Jordan's team. Now, you have dozens and dozens of international players starting on NBA teams. The competition is every bit as good if not more difficult than it was then so that's not even an argument. Now, you can say it's less physical now than it was then but I think that's a determent to Lebron seeing as how he's 6' 8" 270lbs & insanely athletic and quick for his size. If anything, he would have been better in that era than he is now.

Some people will ALWAYS find a way to discredit greatness.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

That has to be the worst argument of all... the competition is worse. BS man. Basketball has become a more popular sport since that era (due in large part to that area) and now better athletes and have been playing since childhood and on top of that all of the world's talent is now in the NBA. The best international player of that era was Kukoc and he was on Jordan's team. Now, you have dozens and dozens of international players starting on NBA teams. The competition is every bit as good if not more difficult than it was then so that's not even an argument. Now, you can say it's less physical now than it was then but I think that's a determent to Lebron seeing as how he's 6' 8" 270lbs & insanely athletic and quick for his size. If anything, he would have been better in that era than he is now.

Some people will ALWAYS find a way to discredit greatness.


See my comment in Ronin's poll thread....

[Jer]

It's the same as saying that Manning wouldn't be able to play in the days of the run in the NFL. So? Who cares? This isn't an argument against his greatness NOW.

[Rooskibar03]

I know I'm like 12 hours to late but my comment was more directed at LBJ wearing a white hot shirt.

[02ducky]

Well thanks for wasting your time to state things you don't like gentleman. I'll be sure to look over all your posts, find something you enjoy and take the time to talk about how much I don't like it.

Geez man, sorry didn't mean to cause you any heartburn with my post about not caring about basketball. If it helps I don't really care of any them, yes that includes football. Maybe I will start a new post so you can say something negative or something on it.

[sniper7]

I understand. So why take the time to post in a thread clearly about the NBA? Personally, I have better things to do than spend time seeking out things I don't like on the internet to post how much I don't like them.

If you don't have anything nice to say....
I'm a post whore....I CAN'T help it!!!!

Oh....and soccer is gheyer. [ROFL2]

[Madeinhb]

That has to be the worst argument of all... the competition is worse. BS man. Basketball has become a more popular sport since that era (due in large part to that area) and now better athletes and have been playing since childhood and on top of that all of the world's talent is now in the NBA. The best international player of that era was Kukoc and he was on Jordan's team. Now, you have dozens and dozens of international players starting on NBA teams. The competition is every bit as good if not more difficult than it was then so that's not even an argument. Now, you can say it's less physical now than it was then but I think that's a determent to Lebron seeing as how he's 6' 8" 270lbs & insanely athletic and quick for his size. If anything, he would have been better in that era than he is now.

Some people will ALWAYS find a way to discredit greatness.

I never said Lebron isn't great. And I was listening to espn this morning as they were talking about the league being watered down. There are a lot of players who should be in the d league but are in NBA because of the amount of teams.

And again, put Pippen or Bowen in their primes on Lebron, he doesn't score 35 points. Probably around 22.

There were arguments of who was the best and people would say Magic, Kareem, Jordan, Barkley, Malone, Hakeem, Ewing, Drexler, etc. now a days it's Lebron, Kobe and Durant.

[Madeinhb]

http://www.journaltribune.com/articles/2012/04/11/editorial/doc4f8442513efdf860255615.txt

And nothing against European players but there is a reason why NBA went after them. Looking for good players. Kids today want quick money. They don't want to increase their skills to be able to be great players.

[Jer]

When I hear someone hating on Lebron this is what I think of:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/969843_604442056240450_836090947_n.jpg

[jerrymrc]

I do not watch much NBA these days. somewhere down the line the NBA merged with the group NWA and as sports go just is not sports as it used to be. I have a cat that passed away in 2008 that was named "Clyde the Glide" after 17 years.

As an old guy now I just shake my head at what the NBA has become but that is just my opinion......

[Jer]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/1677741-exclusive-chael-sonnen-details-history-beef-with-lebron-james

A good inside view on what a gigantic douche LBJ is.

Galaxy Note II + Tapatalk 2

Cliff's Notes: Chael Sonnen (who will say ANYTHING to get headlines and attention) has a problem with the way the NBA calls it a 'world championship' when they only play in the US and somehow this makes Lebron a douche. Uhmmmkay. I likes me some Chael but I take EVERYTHING that comes out of that man's mouth with a grain of salt and it appears as though his opinion on Lebron James isn't any different.

[Madeinhb]

Cliff's Notes: Chael Sonnen (who will say ANYTHING to get headlines and attention) has a problem with the way the NBA calls it a 'world championship' when they only play in the US and somehow this makes Lebron a douche. Uhmmmkay. I likes me some Chael but I take EVERYTHING that comes out of that man's mouth with a grain of salt and it appears as though his opinion on Lebron James isn't any different.

World Championship, World Series, etc. many sports have world in it.