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DireWolf
06-22-2013, 18:43
I've got a small dilemma and was hoping you guys could help point me in the right direction....I'm planning on putting together a new data book, and trying to decide between a Storm Tactical modular rite-in-rain kit, or the TBAC Density Altitude MERS data book....
I've heard that the ST kit is high quality, but the density altitude approach looks very interesting, and I was wondering if anybody has suggestions or recommendations.
Storm Tactical Kit:
http://www.stormtactical.com/rnrmodular.htm
TBAC Kit:
http://thunderbeastarms.com/products/databook
Thanks
I'd look at impact data books, the shooters diary is one if the best section for me
Delfuego
06-22-2013, 19:18
I have the Storm book. That plus my ballistic calculator and actual DOPE is what I get my data from. Now a days I use my dope to build my own data card (home printouts) for each rifle, ammo range and distance.
Today at the CRC match I brought my book, opened it and used my home-made dope cards. Most everyone there has created the same type of thing. Lots of people build them, print them out, laminate them and attach them to there rifles or kit.
The TBAC bocck looks cool but seems to be only available for M118LR or a custom load for $45 extra. Thats seem like excessive and not super useful
Legacy technology that has been overcome by modern technology . Build and confirm a set of density altitude cards for you gun and ammo combination and get to shooting . Data books are a remnant of the time where ballistic calculators were not readily available and the old school NRA highpower teachings .
Jumping on the bandwagon here.. I don't ever carry or use a databook anymore. Everything is in my phone/tablet/computer and then I print off a range card for specific rifle/load. So much easier.
DireWolf
06-23-2013, 09:36
The TBAC bocck looks cool but seems to be only available for M118LR or a custom load for $45 extra. Thats seem like excessive and not super useful
That was actually one of my factors for consideration, since about 2/3 of my .308 stash (new book is for a new .308) is M118LR or similar load with 175 SMK's....But to your point, it would be less than useful for other loads, so potential increased efficiency vs. limited applicability...
DireWolf
06-23-2013, 09:47
Data books are a remnant of the time where ballistic calculators were not readily available and the old school NRA highpower teachings .
I don't ever carry or use a databook anymore. Everything is in my phone/tablet/computer and then I print off a range card for specific rifle/load. So much easier.
Thanks for the tips...I'm actually trying to avoid the need to use an electronic ballistics calculator as much as possible for this....I'm fine using a mildot master/slope doper/ACI/etc., but just like spell checker has over time atrophied my ability to accurately spell without it, going forward, I'm trying to go "old-school" enough that I can make do without the latest tech if necessary...
Ballistic calculators are for the desk top or ELR stuff .
Make a set of DA cards for the rifle and go shoot . When you get on site find the DA , pick the right card , put it on the gun , and get to shooting . It doesn't get any simpler than that . no batteries or electronic devices to worry about in the field . With a set of cards I can take my rifles anywhere and have accurate data and be shooting in no time at all , no time wasted digging through pages of log books looking for data for a day that is similar to what the conditions are now that may or may not have all the info you need at the time .
Just because " this is the its always been done " or " old school " makes it right . Long range shooting in both the civilian and military sides has gone through a huge change in how things are done and the things they use to get them done in the last 10 years . Most of the changes are really good and there is no reason to incorporate the changes into your shooting .
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