View Full Version : I'm Anxiously Awaiting Monday
Bailey Guns
06-30-2013, 13:22
Because maybe then all the EXTREMELY ANNOYING "OMG this is your last chance to buy a gun and/or high-capacity-massacre-clip ever before they come take them all away and we can't ever buy guns again" BS might stop.
I'm not in support of the new laws (or any new/old/existing gun laws for that matter). But I'm really tired of the nonsense.
Yeah. We know. The new laws start tomorrow. Sell your gun or don't but I'm pretty sure we all know now that after today you'll need a background check for a private sale and you won't legally be allowed to buy a standard capacity magazine over 15 rounds.
FFS. Enough of the fear-mongering.
That's like saying, "Don't clench. It will all be over soon."
This is just another step in their incrementalist tactics to make us all serfs. We can take it quietly, or not.
...but I agree, bitching about it amongst ourselves won't make a bit of difference in the outcome.
spqrzilla
06-30-2013, 14:25
Bailey, the fear mongering is one thing. The people who show up - as if we were anxiously awaiting them to show up - to repeat utterly confused nonsense where you can't figure out if the store is clueless or the OP is clueless are what I find the most annoying.
lpgasman
06-30-2013, 14:43
Oh well, we will still have "hard to find guy"
Just saw this on armslist wonder if the stings are starting already?
http://www.armslist.com/posts/1826723/denver-colorado-magazines-for-sale--pmags-after-the-ban
After all, who would contact someone on armslist, to help them break the law?
OtterbatHellcat
06-30-2013, 14:57
Hell, I'm not happy about the changes....it pisses me off.
Then again, I'm not on a tangent about it either.
kidicarus13
06-30-2013, 17:11
Oh well, we will still have "hard to find guy"
Just saw this on armslist wonder if the stings are starting already?
http://www.armslist.com/posts/1826723/denver-colorado-magazines-for-sale--pmags-after-the-ban
After all, who would contact someone on armslist, to help them break the law?
That's F'n awesome ...for the BATFE
Uberjager
06-30-2013, 17:19
That's F'n awesome ...for the BATFE
Pretty sure the ATF doesn't give a flying fuck about state gun laws. I think they have too many trivial federal gun laws to worry about.
HoneyBadger
06-30-2013, 17:22
Seriously.... Fuck this shit.
Biggest thing we can do is support the Colorado Sheriffs (especially El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa) in every way possible. Find them on Facebook and show your support. Send them letters, emails and calls letting them know that they are doing the right thing and that THE PEOPLE stand behind them 100%. Talk to people about it and get your neighbors involved (in a friendly, non-confrontational sort of way!). DONATE MONEY! Money is the big kicker here and is why Magpul is donating all the proceeds from their giant PMag sale to fight for Morse's recall. Bloomberg and his cronies know how close they are to victory and all they need in order to win is for us to do nothing.
Key point here: YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE THE STATUS QUO.
HoneyBadger
06-30-2013, 17:23
Pretty sure the ATF doesn't give a flying fuck about state gun laws. I think they have too many trivial federal gun laws to worry about.
BATFE is federal. State laws are not their gig. This is totally up to the state to enforce... ...[ROFL1]
spqrzilla
06-30-2013, 18:12
Oh well, we will still have "hard to find guy"
Just saw this on armslist wonder if the stings are starting already?
http://www.armslist.com/posts/1826723/denver-colorado-magazines-for-sale--pmags-after-the-ban
After all, who would contact someone on armslist, to help them break the law?
Oh, sure Mr. CBI ... I'll just "let you know".
Not.
Oh well, we will still have "hard to find guy"
Just saw this on armslist wonder if the stings are starting already?
http://www.armslist.com/posts/1826723/denver-colorado-magazines-for-sale--pmags-after-the-ban
After all, who would contact someone on armslist, to help them break the law?
The red flag for me is that he says he's flying there. Despite the fact that he'd have to run all that luggage through security, isn't is pretty quick and cheap to just drive there? That's like flying to Moab.
Oh well, we will still have "hard to find guy"
Just saw this on armslist wonder if the stings are starting already?
http://www.armslist.com/posts/1826723/denver-colorado-magazines-for-sale--pmags-after-the-ban
After all, who would contact someone on armslist, to help them break the law?
Who knows he may be the Rosa Parks of Kolorado gun laws.
Great-Kazoo
06-30-2013, 19:26
BATFE is federal. State laws are not their gig. This is totally up to the state to enforce... ...[ROFL1]
Actually the ATF has been approached by the guv and others regarding "assistance" with the new laws. There was ablurb in the DP about 6 weeks ago. I'll see if i can locate the "story"
The red flag for me is that he says he's flying there. Despite the fact that he'd have to run all that luggage through security, isn't is pretty quick and cheap to just drive there? That's like flying to Moab.
There are folks who fly single engines all over the place on 1 & 2 day jaunts. If i was more tolerant of small confined spaces i'd take another local shooter up for lunch in scottsbluff.
NFATrustGuy
06-30-2013, 19:30
The red flag for me is that he says he's flying there. Despite the fact that he'd have to run all that luggage through security, isn't is pretty quick and cheap to just drive there? That's like flying to Moab.
Actually, you don't have to pass through any security when flying from Sidney, NE. In fact most flights in private airplanes require no security check at all. Some airports have security in place to access your airplane and/or hangar, but after that, it's just like driving a car.
People fly to Moab, too, btw.
Little airplanes are wonderful things when it comes to accessing smaller towns quickly.
I'm not advocating breaking the law, I'm just saying that what that guy is proposing, while probably illegal, is imminently within the realm of possibility.
That's F'n awesome ...for the BATFE
Pretty sure the ATF doesn't give a flying fuck about state gun laws. I think they have too many trivial federal gun laws to worry about.
BATFE is federal. State laws are not their gig. This is totally up to the state to enforce... ...[ROFL1]
I talked to a former ATF agent today. Seriously guys, they are too busy, especially since sequester dumped about 100 agents, not all of whom are back, to worry about state laws they have no desire, requirement, or funding to enforce. Same goes for the local Sheriffs.
The BATFE is too busy working gang related gun homicide traces to straw purchasers, and gun trafficking to give a flying fuck about some unenforceable state law. The shit I heard about investigations into some of the Denver area gun stores, the ties between gun, sex, and drug trafficking is amazing to say the least. Rich Wyatt and Gunsmoke had definitely been on their radar for years.
NFATrustGuy
06-30-2013, 19:35
If i was more tolerant of small confined spaces i'd take another local shooter up for lunch in scottsbluff.
Jim: My plane is a single-seater, but we could solve your "confined spaces" problem and my lack of a spare seat by simply duct-taping you to the wing. I could probably sell tickets to a flyby! The asymmetric drag would probably mean we could only make turns in one direction, but we could probably get it done! [ROFL1]
Actually, you don't have to pass through any security when flying from Sidney, NE. In fact most flights in private airplanes require no security check at all. Some airports have security in place to access your airplane and/or hangar, but after that, it's just like driving a car.
People fly to Moab, too, btw.
Little airplanes are wonderful things when it comes to accessing smaller towns quickly.
I'm not advocating breaking the law, I'm just saying that what that guy is proposing, while probably illegal, is imminently within the realm of possibility.
Good to know. I wish I had a small plane. Not for this reason, just because road trips would be much cooler/faster.
Great-Kazoo
06-30-2013, 19:48
Jim: My plane is a single-seater, but we could solve your "confined spaces" problem and my lack of a spare seat by simply duct-taping you to the wing. I could probably sell tickets to a flyby! The asymmetric drag would probably mean we could only make turns in one direction, but we could probably get it done! [ROFL1]
I have something we could tie you to. However there are no oceans or deep lakes in CO to make it worthwhile.
"But i'm just a shoemaker
Don't worry , where you're going, there's plenty of shoes"
hurley842002
06-30-2013, 21:20
I hate these laws as much as everyone, there is one upside for me personally. I have buy/sell/trade ADD, usually between Glocks size/caliber. I'm also a low level government employee so I'm not rich, I must sell or trade for new purchases. Maybe now I'll actually hang on to a CCW piece for more than a few hundred rounds. With that said, EFF the new laws!!!
Great-Kazoo
07-02-2013, 06:44
Because maybe then all the EXTREMELY ANNOYING "OMG this is your last chance to buy a gun and/or high-capacity-massacre-clip ever before they come take them all away and we can't ever buy guns again" BS might stop.
I'm not in support of the new laws (or any new/old/existing gun laws for that matter). But I'm really tired of the nonsense.
Yeah. We know. The new laws start tomorrow. Sell your gun or don't but I'm pretty sure we all know now that after today you'll need a background check for a private sale and you won't legally be allowed to buy a standard capacity magazine over 15 rounds.
FFS. Enough of the fear-mongering.
I was hoping people would relax and stop over ANAL izing the whole deal. However after browsing GD and L&P it doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon.
"What if you have 1-15 round magazine and 2 - 20 round mags are you in violation of the law??"
"If i have a full mag and 1 in the chamber will that be considered illegal "
People are going to the extreme, over thinking the whole deal and keep beating a dead horse. THEN posting on line,,.......I'll go to wyo, neb, nm, to buy them. You don't send a note to the local cop shop telling them you're casing the check cashing place before robbing them.
Shut up, breathe, and wait for the july 10 hearing about the injunction.
battle_sight_zero
07-02-2013, 07:08
I traded a year to ago with a guy who flew his plane in from La Juanta. He landed rented a car and brought his trades. He then did some shopping and returned the car and flew home. I thought that was pretty cool. However I am a little leary of this ad and the others that remain on armslist right now. Either some of the posters haven't watched the news or are stings. Be wary.
battle_sight_zero
07-02-2013, 07:11
I was hoping people would relax and stop over ANAL izing the whole deal. However after browsing GD and L&P it doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon.
"What if you have 1-15 round magazine and 2 - 20 round mags are you in violation of the law??"
"If i have a full mag and 1 in the chamber will that be considered illegal "
People are going to the extreme, over thinking the whole deal and keep beating a dead horse. THEN posting on line,,.......I'll go to wyo, neb, nm, to buy them. You don't send a note to the local cop shop telling them you're casing the check cashing place before robbing them.
Shut up, breathe, and wait for the july 10 hearing about the injunction.
Good points. Why the heck advertise that you are going out of state to buy mags.
rockhound
07-02-2013, 07:26
dude if you didn't get your fill of magazines before 7/1 then what were you thinking about the last four months?
battle_sight_zero
07-02-2013, 07:50
dude if you didn't get your fill of magazines before 7/1 then what were you thinking about the last four months?
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