View Full Version : Outside Colorado Trade/Sale Question
I have a couple scenarios:
1. Two friends living in Colorado, not related, meet in Wyoming to hunt. They get to WY and meet up, one guy sees his friend has a hand gun he always wanted to own and this guy has a hand gun that the other guy wants. So they decide to trade guns and they come back to Colorado with different guns than they left with. Did they break any laws?
2. The same two friends in WY hunting, only this time the one guy buys the friends gun, no trade, and comes back to CO. Did they break any laws?
I know people that have done this numerous times over the years on hunting trips outside CO, with friends. I want to know if they are now breaking any new laws, or have they always been breaking the law? Do the laws of your state of residency apply outside of your state? For these scenarios, I'm assuming all guns are otherwise legal in CO and do not have high cap mags, or other questionable features.
USAFGopherMike
07-02-2013, 11:20
I guess it would be a question of transfer and possession. Does it matter where the gun is acquired or how? Is there a provision in the new laws for transportation across state lines?
Great-Kazoo
07-02-2013, 12:07
Putting hypothetical ideas on line only opens you up later IF someone want's to show INTENT to break the Law. Keep quiet, keep it off line, and keep it to yourself.
Putting hypothetical ideas on line only opens you up later IF someone want's to show INTENT to break the Law. Keep quiet, keep it off line, and keep it to yourself.
nailed it.
Tinelement
07-02-2013, 13:21
Putting hypothetical ideas on line only opens you up later IF someone want's to show INTENT to break the Law. Keep quiet, keep it off line, and keep it to yourself.
Winner
Circuits
07-02-2013, 13:27
Hypothetically, then, it is illegal to acquire a firearm outside your own state of residence, except that you may acquire a rifle or shotgun from a licensed dealer in another state, provided both your state's and the dealer's state's laws permit the transaction.
1. illegal
2. illegal
Those transactions have been illegal since GCA 1968.
So, Jim I'm guessing you don't know the answer to my question. Your saying every time somebody here asks a question and needs an answer they are setting themselves up for future legal action by asking. I don't see where using a hypothetical to better set up a question, somehow implies that I or anyone else has any intent to do anything illegal. Quite the contrary it may prevent someone from doing something illegal that they were not aware of. Or are you saying that gun trading out of state is what you are intending to do and I have let the cat out of the bag so to speak.
Thank you Circuits, I was not aware that private party transactions between residents of the same state occurring out of state would be illegal as far back as 1968. I have been unable to find the answer at the BATF web site. That site is like everything else in government it is so big and confusing it is almost useless.
Great-Kazoo
07-02-2013, 16:28
So, Jim I'm guessing you don't know the answer to my question. Your saying every time somebody here asks a question and needs an answer they are setting themselves up for future legal action by asking. I don't see where using a hypothetical to better set up a question, somehow implies that I or anyone else has any intent to do anything illegal. Quite the contrary it may prevent someone from doing something illegal that they were not aware of. Or are you saying that gun trading out of state is what you are intending to do and I have let the cat out of the bag so to speak.
Thank you Circuits, I was not aware that private party transactions between residents of the same state occurring out of state would be illegal as far back as 1968. I have been unable to find the answer at the BATF web site. That site is like everything else in government it is so big and confusing it is almost useless.
Incorrect. I only go out of state regarding firearm items when i send more Form 1 & 4's in. . There have been an easy 1/2 doz post worded differently asking the same shit. I do know the answer but felt if you are unable to look up federal law / do the legwork yourself, why bother.
http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons#gca-unlicensed-acquire
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