View Full Version : Anybody ever forgot their CCW?
TheWeeze
07-02-2013, 15:39
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/denver/growing-number-of-people-caught-with-guns-at-tsa-checkpoints-at-dia-and-other-us-airports
Rooskibar03
07-02-2013, 15:42
I just don't see how that's possible. You forgot? How? did you make a last minute trip to the airport to catch a flight?
Nope! Hundreds of flights and never so much as a spent casing. Yowza!
I could see it. If you carry daily, it just becomes a part of you. Like wearing a watch. You don't even notice it and it's habit to always have it on. You just space it out that you're not allowed to take it some places.
kawiracer14
07-02-2013, 16:02
I accidentally carried a knife with me in my pocket when not checking a bag and gave it to the car shuttle driver to put back in my truck, but I can't really see forgetting you have a gun on you when flying...
TheWeeze
07-02-2013, 16:08
Had a friend fly with a full magazine in his carry on that he didn't realize was there until he was getting ready to fly home a few days later. No one saw it going through originally.
I forgot about my knife when coming home from SHOT show last year in Vegas, so into the trashcan it went. It was not an expensive knife it was like a $50.00 CRKT but better to throw it away than take a trip to the pokie for trying to carry it on a plane.
It used to be you could carry, loaded on a plane. Now, OMG... Horrible person. We all know where this is going if we don't stand up for our rights. I wonder how many on here will say something along the lines of "different times". That just tells me Bin Lauden won. Terrorisms point is to change the way a people think and act. How are we thinking and acting after 9/11?
Inconel710
07-02-2013, 16:29
I forgot a knife in my pocket on my last trip. Showed it to TSA and put it in a mailer behind the checkpoint. Cost me $15 and about three weeks without that knife. Funny part was the X-ray machine operator was supposed to maintain possession and hand it off to another agent. Instead he gave it to me and I had to flag down another agent to mail it. I could have just put it in my pocket but I value my security clearance too much.
Aloha_Shooter
07-02-2013, 16:44
I could see people who use the same duffel bag for range/gym/traveling making a mistake and not emptying it before throwing stuff in for a trip. I'm a little skeptical that someone forgot a loaded .38-cal strapped to his leg and even more that someone forgot 200 rounds and 2 loaded mags in addition to the pistol. If nothing else, the weight should have told him something (unless they were .22s).
RonMexico
07-02-2013, 17:09
Had a friend fly with a full magazine in his carry on that he didn't realize was there until he was getting ready to fly home a few days later. No one saw it going through originally.
TSA hard at work, and they asked me about a 1.5 inch multitool after the new law allowing pocket knifes was passed
i guess the TSA agent was too busy looking at a set of DD on the body scanner
I have walked up to, and through, the metal detector on a couple of occasions with things I shouldn't have. When you travel a lot sometimes you forget things.. going to the airport stops being a big deal when you do it 60+ times a year.
AirbornePathogen
07-02-2013, 17:16
I could see it. If you carry daily, it just becomes a part of you. Like wearing a watch. You don't even notice it and it's habit to always have it on. You just space it out that you're not allowed to take it some places.
I can see that. But for me anyway, flying is enough of a break in my routine that it's no problem to make sure I don't have a gun, knife, or rounds on me, and do a couple of other things, like make sure I wear shoes that I can slip on and off, wear my 5.11 belt with the polymer buckle (They still make me take it off), and just pocket my phone, since my phone case has a metal swivel, and it's a royal pain in the ass to get off of my belt. IMHO, if you carry routinely, you should make securing your weapon part of your pre-travel checklist, right up there with making sure your bags are packed.
Goodburbon
07-02-2013, 17:19
Had a friend fly with a full magazine in his carry on that he didn't realize was there until he was getting ready to fly home a few days later. No one saw it going through originally.
I had a friend fly with ammo in his carryon.
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I can see that. But for me anyway, flying is enough of a break in my routine .....
IMHO, if you carry routinely, you should make securing your weapon part of your pre-travel checklist, right up there with making sure your bags are packed.
IMHO you shouldn't hold strong opinions about things you don't know anything about.. But different people do different things differently.
I used to fly too often, and hauled a big camera bag full of cameras and lenses as my carryon. In 1987, I had been on the road in my van and had a little .22 revolver in my camera bag for popping at jackrabbits with. Forgot it was there, and flew from Syracuse to Oklahoma. The bag went through two xrays and one hand inspection, and nobody found it. I found it when I was home in OK, and bricks were shat. I know I turned white as a sheet. But that was in '87, long before all this intense security BS.
BREATHER
07-02-2013, 18:50
What a problem.... No, I have not forgotten where my concealed carry was and if I was traveling by plane I would take all precautions... ie: knives in pockets, firearms etc... BUY a damn bag for travel and another for shooting for shit sakes... I have a shooting buddy that works for FEMA/HLS. One Saturday we were shooting blackpowder and he mentioned he was going out of state for an assignment,,, We actually discussed what would happen to him if he wore the same blue jeans to travel that he shot in and we discussed the "sniffer" at the airport detecting the black powder residue on his clothes....
I can remember flying when I was in the military. You could smoke on the plane, no fucking security, and no taking your fucking shoes off for the welfare recieving TSA... It has gotten out of hand, fellas....
TSA hard at work, and they asked me about a 1.5 inch multitool after the new law allowing pocket knifes was passed
i guess the TSA agent was too busy looking at a set of DD on the body scanner
Ummmm, the "proposed" change allowing pocket knives was revoked. http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jun/06/business/la-fi-tsa-airplane-knives-20130606 4" razor sharp scissors, sure that's fine but no pocket knives. :)
Now, on topic with the thread. I could see forgetting about it until you were in the airport but actually getting through the security line before remembering... I travel about 40 times a year and I basically pat myself down before even approaching the line to make sure I don't have anything that will get me slightly hassled in my pockets. Now I can completely understand accidentally ending up with a bullet or mag in a piece of luggage, a small knife would be very easy to forget, but a loaded gun doesn't make much sense to me.
Great-Kazoo
07-02-2013, 19:30
Got to the ticket counter and said FUK very loud as i was reaching for my ID a nice ken onion was still in my pocket.
Now, on topic with the thread. I could see forgetting about it until you were in the airport but actually getting through the security line before remembering... I travel about 40 times a year and I basically pat myself down before even approaching the line to make sure I don't have anything that will get me slightly hassled in my pockets. Now I can completely understand accidentally ending up with a bullet or mag in a piece of luggage, a small knife would be very easy to forget, but a loaded gun doesn't make much sense to me.
I've been patting myself down for years since I got jacked in Vegas with a knife I forgot to drop in the luggage. Easy enough to drop it in a mailer at the time but not always the case if you're used to timing gate arrival. Had to laugh that I got through DIA with it on the outbound. I don't mix range gear and travel gear, the CCW piece stays home unless I know I will need to go somewhere besides home on return, and the truck gun becomes primary for the duration.
IMHO you shouldn't hold strong opinions about things you don't know anything about.. But different people do different things differently.
Why are you even taking exception to this post?
Anyway, I lost a SOG micro that I forgot was on my keychain at the airport, mace at Denver court house, and been flagged at Adams court for that credit card multitool thing. Has anyone gone some where, and just realized that the are only carrying their holster and extra mag, but no gun?
Why are you even taking exception to this post?
'Only an irresponsible gun owner would forget that they are carrying a gun.. I mean, my god, the thing can jump out of the holster and start killing innocent women and children at any second...'
I would post pictures but I don't want to incriminate the 'innocent'..
TheWeeze
07-02-2013, 20:15
'Only an irresponsible gun owner would forget that they are carrying a gun.. I mean, my god, the thing can jump out of the holster and start killing innocent women and children at any second...'
I would post pictures but I don't want to incriminate the 'innocent'..
I don't know where that came from. I don't believe anybody called anybody irresponsible...did they?
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I don't know where that came from. I don't believe anybody called anybody irresponsible...did they?
Not here. But that is how the argument from the other side usually goes. Its a tired one generally spewed by people, gun owners a like, who have never been in the situation and who don't actually carry every day of their lives.
AirbornePathogen
07-02-2013, 20:20
IMHO you shouldn't hold strong opinions about things you don't know anything about.. But different people do different things differently.
I'm only tossing in my two cents here, just like everyone else. Can't say I appreciated that, I've come to expect better from the people here.
Nope! Hundreds of flights and never so much as a spent casing. Yowza!
My buddy got busted at the Loveland airport a couple of years ago with a single .223 cartridge in his carry-on. It was under that flat piece of plastic that gives rigidity to the bottom of the bag. It earned him a strip search and a nasty letter that he got in the mail a couple of weeks later.
TheWeeze
07-03-2013, 08:19
I got pulled to the side and had to submit to the "aggressive" full body pat down in a back room because that damn sniffer machine hit on something on my bag. Not even the one I take to the range. They had to wipe me down, invasive pat down, re-test my carry on and my clothes to find out I was clean. Took 45 minutes. Missed my flight. Was more than slightly irritated to say the least.
I've lost a couple of pocket knives, an SOG Micro, and a handcuff key at different courthouses over the years. I'm usually pretty good about not carrying when I go to court or for jury duty now, making sure I don't have anything that will raise any eyebrows. What annoys me, though, is that attorneys could stroll in there with a friggin TOW missile in their rolling file cabinet, at least at Jeffco, because they get to bypass the metal detector.
I've flown about 20 times since 9/11/01, and more than half of those I've been selected for "extra screening"...
What kills me it that I could easily shut down a major airport for a few dollars, without ever setting foot inside. There would be no danger to anyone, but their explosive detectors would go apeshit...
I got nailed at the JeffCo Court House and lost a very expensive CCW holster. I had a court date and locked my Glock in the trunk of my car under the spare tire. When I went threw the check point I had to take off my belt and they saw the holster. They wouldn't let me keep it because if someone saw the empty holster they would freak wondering where I had the gun?
wctriumph
07-03-2013, 18:23
Nope.
I got nailed at the JeffCo Court House and lost a very expensive CCW holster. I had a court date and locked my Glock in the trunk of my car under the spare tire. When I went threw the check point I had to take off my belt and they saw the holster. They wouldn't let me keep it because if someone saw the empty holster they would freak wondering where I had the gun?
That is total bullshit. I would have demanded to take it back to my car or screamed and hollered until I got attention from someone who could make a difference.
That is total bullshit. I would have demanded to take it back to my car or screamed and hollered until I got attention from someone who could make a difference.Fair enough. Let me explain my reason for not "demanding to take it back to my car or screamed and hollered until I got attention from someone who could make a difference." I had my wife with me who has Alzheimers That in its self has taught me to keep my big mouth shut. Had I been alone I would have been all over the two JeffCo cops and probably gotten locked up. You seem to be a good case in point on unloading before you know the whole story. :)
Fair enough. Let me explain my reason for not "demanding to take it back to my car or screamed and hollered until I got attention from someone who could make a difference." I had my wife with me who has Alzheimers That in its self has taught me to keep my big mouth shut. Had I been alone I would have been all over the two JeffCo cops and probably gotten locked up. You seem to be a good case in point on unloading before you know the whole story. :)
Speaking of unloading. I wasn't saying that your response was total bullshit, but that you lost a holster in the deal is bullshit, which it is. There is zero reason that you couldn't have just picked it up on your way out, or have been allowed to return to your car. I've been pulled aside and told, "You can't take this in with you," and allowed to return it to my car.
hurley842002
07-04-2013, 00:05
Speaking of unloading. I wasn't saying that your response was total bullshit, but that you lost a holster in the deal is bullshit, which it is. There is zero reason that you couldn't have just picked it up on your way out, or have been allowed to return to your car. I've been pulled aside and told, "You can't take this in with you," and allowed to return it to my car.
Yeah there is no way in Hell I would have lost a holster, or any of my property for that matter. Unacceptable that they wouldn't let him return it to his car.
I used to travel all the time, and took a pocket knife. Kept it in my checked luggage until I got where I was going;
carried it all week. Night before I flew home, put it in my briefcase, next morning at LAX, checked in, went through
security checkpoint, walked to my gate....Later, was digging in my briefcase, and WTF!! They never even saw it
on the xray...Still don't understand "forgetting" a firearm though...
I did once, though it was pre-9/11.
Had it in my backpack. Forgot to return it to my checked luggage.
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