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SuperiorDG
07-10-2013, 12:12
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/9/granddaughter-qualifies-to-follow-in-boot-steps-of/?page=all

A descendant of Col. Charles Beckwith (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/charles-beckwith/), who in 1977 founded the Army's Delta Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/armys-delta-force/) that today hunts and kills Islamic terrorists, passed the test in May to become a member of the elite special operations forces.
The graduate is not a burly Beckwith (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/charles-beckwith/) man, but the late colonel’s 20-year-old granddaughter.
Airman (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/airman-howe/) 1st Class Mary Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mary-howe/) is one of the few women qualified as an aerial gunner aboard Air Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/air-force/) special operations AC-130 gunships — the warplanes with accurate cannons unleashed in Iraq (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/iraq/) and Afghanistan (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/afghanistan/) to support troops on the ground.
Airman Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/airman-howe/) is the daughter of retired Army (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/army/)Master Sgt. Paul Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/paul-howe/) — featured prominently in the best-selling book “Black Hawk Down” about a Delta Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/delta-force/) operation in Somalia (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/somalia/) — and Connie Beckwith Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/connie-beckwith-howe/), a former Army (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/army/) Reserve major and one of the colonel’s three daughters.
“I hold gunships really close to my heart,” Airman Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/airman-howe/) said from Hurlburt Field on the Florida Panhandle. “They’ve been over my dad. They watched over him when he was in the military.”
The Howe home in Nacogdoches, Texas, is adorned with photos of Beckwith (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/charles-beckwith/), who persuaded the Pentagon (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/pentagon/) to create the first designated counterterrorism unit known as Delta Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/delta-force/). He is a father of the special operations force and its fusion with intelligence assets and strike aircraft such as the AC-130.
“My parents tried to keep him alive in our family and let me know everything he did,” said Airman Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/airman-howe/), who was 1 year old when her grandfather died in 1994 at age 65.
Desert One disaster
Delta Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/delta-force/)’s first overseas mission to free American hostages in Iran (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/iran/) in April 1980 ended in chaotic failure on the sands of a desolate landing zone code-named Desert One.
But Beckwith (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/charles-beckwith/)’s vision has passed the test of time. Delta Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/delta-force/) today, made up of about 1,000 soldiers based at Fort Bragg, N.C., is honed to hunt down key terrorist targets globally. It played a major role in finding Abu Musab Zarqawi (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/abu-musab-zarqawi/), al Qaeda (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/al-qaeda/)’s chief henchman in Iraq (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/iraq/) who was killed by an Air Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/air-force/) strike on his hideout.
Airman Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/airman-howe/) said she decided to follow in the family tradition after reading “Black Hawk Down” as a high school student. She was especially struck by the passages about Sgt. 1st Class Randy Shughart (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/randy-shughart/), a Delta sniper who gave his life defending a shot-down Black Hawk helicopter pilot in Mogadishu in 1993 in an intense grenade and small-arms battle.
Shughart (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/randy-shughart/) was awarded the Medal of Honor. The book passage told of Shughart (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/randy-shughart/)’s wife sending a friend to Dover Air Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/air-force/) Base to view the body but being told that it could not be recognized as the sergeant’s.
By 2015, special ops may have more women like Airman Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/airman-howe/), but this time in trigger-pulling jobs on the ground. The Obama administration (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/barack-obama/) has removed a regulation that banned women from direct ground combat units.
U.S. Special Operations Command (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/us-special-operations-command/) has launched two years of studies into the ramifications of inserting women into the Navy SEALs, Delta Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/delta-force/), Green Berets and Army (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/army/) Rangers — the military’s most elite.
Today, 20 women are among the 193 AC-130 aerial gunners either in training or manning the plane’s arsenal.
Airman Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/airman-howe/), who enlisted on July 4, 2011, passed qualifications as an aerial gunner on May 6 for 25 mm guns and 105 mm cannons.
“I grew up around guns, and this was the best job for me,” she said.
She said she hopes to go on the next AC-130 deployment overseas.
“I would be in the back of the plane,” she said. “Basically, you are going to be loading the guns. We basically trouble-shoot malfunctions with the guns, making sure if something does go wrong, we have to be able to fix it.”
Encouraged by parents
Her parents, she said, “were ecstatic about my decision, especially to join the Air Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/air-force/). They were really happy I took the decision myself.”
Her father, who owns a company that trains civilian law enforcers, does not talk much at home about his Army (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/army/) exploits.
Airman Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/airman-howe/) said “Black Hawk Down” helped her understand the culture she would be embracing and learn more about her father.
Author Mark Bowden (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mark-bowden/) told the hour-by-hour story of the disastrous hunt for Somali warlord Mohammed Farah Aidid (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mohammed-farah-aidid/) in 1993. At one point in a long-running firefight, Sgt. Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mary-howe/) needed to find cover for his Delta men to treat a wounded soldier.
“Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mary-howe/) abruptly kicked in the door to a one-room house and barged in with his weapon ready,” Mr. Bowden (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mark-bowden/) wrote.
“Less-experienced soldiers still felt normal civilian inhibitions about doing things like kicking in doors, but Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mary-howe/) and his men moved as if they owned the world. Every house was their house. If they needed shelter, they kicked in a door. Anyone who threatened them would be shot dead.”
Connie Beckwith Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/connie-beckwith-howe/) said she and her husband encouraged their daughter to join the Air Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/air-force/).
“We just felt she had a better chance to be in special operations if she went to the Air Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/air-force/),” Mrs. Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mary-howe/) said.
“We knew that the Air Force (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/air-force/) was a little bit more pro-education. To me, it was just a better fit for her. Mary (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mary-howe/) has picked up the strong influence of serving your country. My father instilled this strong sense of patriotism that I think she must have somehow picked up.”
She and her daughter are members of the Daughters of the American Revolution.
“She is descended from a line of what I think of as warriors,” Mrs. Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mary-howe/) said.
If Col. Beckwith (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/charles-beckwith/) were alive today, “He would have loved it, and he would have found any excuse to go visit Hurlburt Field so he could ‘check’ on her,” Mrs. Howe (http://p.washingtontimes.com/topics/mary-howe/) said.


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Sawin
07-10-2013, 13:34
I don't get it. She's an Airman... so how exactly how does she qualify to be in the 1st SFOD-D, an Army unit... The way I read it, she qualified to be an AC130 gunner.

SuperiorDG
07-10-2013, 13:45
I don't get it. She's an Airman... so how exactly how does she qualify to be in the 1st SFOD-D, an Army unit... The way I read it, she qualified to be an AC130 gunner.

I was hoping you Army guys would understand it better than me. The history is kind of cool regardless.

Sawin
07-10-2013, 13:53
I was hoping you Army guys would understand it better than me. The history is kind of cool regardless.

No soldier here, just didn't seem to mesh with the little understanding I think I have. I'm sure someone else will chime in. Agreed, cool history nonetheless.

DocMedic
07-10-2013, 14:01
No disrespect but to "Qualifying" isn't the same a SELECTION. Just need to know land nav, get 75 in each event of the pt test, and be able to ruck will get you qualified for Delta. ...And this article has nothing to do with her and delta? she's a AC-130 Gunner...

thvigil11
07-10-2013, 14:05
The Chair Force considers AC-130 Crews as spec ops. She is a gunner on a Spook, it is in that area that she is qualified. The title and story are slightly misleading.

OneGuy67
07-10-2013, 14:09
The Chair Force considers AC-130 Crews as spec ops. She is a gunner on a Spook, it is in that area that she is qualified. The title and story are slightly misleading.

Very misleading. She shoots a gun on an airship that supports units such as Delta. Be just like a mechanic who works on that airship that supports Delta. Is he Delta qualified too?

RonMexico
07-10-2013, 14:13
You don't have to be in the army to try out for Delta, I know a Marine who passed the "long walk"...... I don't know if you have to sign a new contract if you get selected but you def don't have to be in the army to attempt the walk.

asmo
07-10-2013, 16:05
Is she hot? Tits or GTFO...

...don't tell her father I said that.

Sawin
07-10-2013, 16:39
Is she hot? Tits or GTFO...

...don't tell her father I said that.

haha uh oh, you're a dead man walking.

SuperiorDG
07-10-2013, 18:09
Is she hot? Tits or GTFO...

...don't tell her father I said that.

That's funny right there. Her picture is on one of the hostage targets used in Kelly Ts classes and I guess someone made a similar comment in one of Paul's classes. You can ask Kelly how it went.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d127/Iraqninja/CSAT/moving-target-hits.jpg

SirSai
07-10-2013, 18:09
Is she hot? Tits or GTFO...

...don't tell her father I said that.
31325
Yes. She's hot.

spyder
07-10-2013, 18:58
I thought there were different classes of gunships? Wouldn't one be of a higher caliber, and considered a "special forces" model, or are all 8 or however many different types of gunships there are, all special forces operated?

Monky
07-10-2013, 19:06
Some of you guys are just pathetic... Be happy for the feel good piece and if she's attached to a unit working with delta on missions so be it.

The title is misleading but it's still pretty cool so get the sand out of your manginas and smile for her.


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spyder
07-10-2013, 19:38
Some of you guys are just pathetic... Be happy for the feel good piece and if she's attached to a unit working with delta on missions so be it.

The title is misleading but it's still pretty cool so get the sand out of your manginas and smile for her.


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Hey, I don't want to hear any of your jibe in this anymore.... If you have nothing non productive to say, don't say anything at all!!!

Monky
07-10-2013, 19:50
Hey, I don't want to hear any of your jibe in this anymore.... If you have nothing non productive to say, don't say anything at all!!!

Remind me to get you drunk and leave you somewhere this weekend


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ImNtUrBuddyGuy
07-11-2013, 03:57
we had guys in the Corps who went to Ranger school. They were 8654 (dual Cool jump, scuba) and Ranger. not very many guys that I knew though.

Many Recon guys go to Ranger school, Delta is completely different course altogether.

The title of this article is purposely misleading

Gman
07-11-2013, 07:22
First rule about Delta, don't talk about Delta.

SuperiorDG
07-11-2013, 07:43
First rule about Delta, don't talk about Delta.

Second rule of Delta, YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT DELTA!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2lmFCqbJcI

Not to derail my on thread, but it seem pretty much done as it is.

spyder
07-11-2013, 08:46
Remind me to get you drunk and leave you somewhere this weekend


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

I don't really drink, remember? ha!

Besides, if you don't remember, a ten minute walk pretty much gets me from anywhere here, to my house.... so there!

275RLTW
07-13-2013, 16:44
1. It hasn't been called DELTA for a long time now, at least 15 years. Most common unclass acronym is CAG (Combat Action Group). 2. There are currently women assigned to that unit 3. Not everyone in CAG is an assaulter. 4. There are other branches than just the Army in CAG.

asmo
07-13-2013, 16:50
1. It hasn't been called DELTA for a long time now, at least 15 years. Most common unclass acronym is CAG (Combat Action Group). 2. There are currently women assigned to that unit 3. Not everyone in CAG is an assaulter. 4. There are other branches than just the Army in CAG.

s/Action/Applications/g -- but even that name isnt current; its now the dumbly named "ACE"

dan512
07-13-2013, 17:04
Paul Howe posts on another site I frequent. This article was posted and he did step in to clear up the confusion. Not to put words in his mouth, but his response in essence is that the media makes mistakes from time to time. His daughter is Air Force and will be serving on a C 130 gunship. She did not qualify as Delta, special ops, etc.

Either way, that is a hell of a family.

275RLTW
07-13-2013, 17:16
1. It hasn't been called DELTA for a long time now, at least 15 years. Most common unclass acronym is CAG (Combat Action Group). 2. There are currently women assigned to that unit 3. Not everyone in CAG is an assaulter. 4. There are other branches than just the Army in CAG.


s/Action/Applications/g -- but even that name isnt current; its now the dumbly named "ACE" That is why I said it was an unclassified name. There are more current names however they are nor for public use. 1st SFOD is a common reference to that organization although it encompasses several other units. They are getting away from the old conventions of DELTA and becoming more broad in scope and more discreet. I'll leave it at that...