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Ronin13
07-25-2013, 11:17
Oh FFS! Hollyweird continues to ruin great classics with horrible writing and an overdependent need for gratuitous CGI effects! Anyone who's seen the original will know how great the story and message is...
The geniuses in LALA land are remaking the Japanese classic "47 Ronin." Changing the story, adding in supernatural BS, and starring Keanu freaking Reeves! Are you joking!?
The original plot is based on the actual 18th Century events (also described in the DeNiro flick "Ronin"):
Lord Asano resists a bribery attempt by a member of the Shogun's court. His honesty, however, is useless against the corruption of the administration, and he is forced to commit harakiri (ritualistic suicide). His samurai followers are dispersed as masterless ronin. The leader of the samurai, Oichi, plots with a loyal band of ronin to seek revenge for their master's dishonor.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033654/?ref_=sr_2

But now, the remake involves supernatural BS, witches, and other ridiculous, over the top, CGI dependent stuff that strays so far from the original that the only thing the two have in common is the number of masterless samurai featured.
Here's the silly trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47_-pqoPDVQ
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1335975/?ref_=sr_1

This will end up just as bad as Star Wars prequels, and the shoddy attempt to reboot the Indiana Jones franchise! [facepalm]

Rooskibar03
07-25-2013, 11:23
Does Keanue Reeves have more than one voice?

Ronin13
07-25-2013, 11:29
Does Keanue Reeves have more than one voice?
It would seem he plays the same character in every movie: either a robot, an alien, surfer, or a robot-alien-surfer... His most compelling role to date was "The Day The Earth Stood Still"- but in that he wasn't really acting. [Coffee]

Zundfolge
07-25-2013, 11:29
There are approximately 100,000 new novels published each year (source (http://mattwilkens.com/2009/10/14/how-many-novels-are-published-each-year/)) and another approximately 100,000 new screenplays written each year (source (http://www.screenwriterunknown.com/screenwriting-observations/odds-of-selling-a-spec-screenplay)).

There are enough new stories to be told that the entire concept of the "remake" should be completely foreign to us. There are maybe, maybe, a dozen movies ever made that should be "remade" because of changes in film technology that allow them to better tell the story.

Otherwise, we should be inundated with fresh, new, original stories on the silver screen every year.


Hollywood really needs to be allowed to die off.

275RLTW
07-25-2013, 11:40
So by your reasoning the movie 300 was a waste of time for everyone as well? How many people continued to learn about the Greeks after watching the CGI effects in that movie?

Ronin13
07-25-2013, 11:54
So by your reasoning the movie 300 was a waste of time for everyone as well? How many people continued to learn about the Greeks after watching the CGI effects in that movie?
Technically 300 wasn't a remake of "The 300 Spartans." So you cannot compare the two. 300 was a film adaptation of a Frank Miller graphic novel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_(comics)), loosely based on the battle of Thermopylae. [Beer]

rondog
07-25-2013, 11:58
It would seem he plays the same character in every movie: either a robot, an alien, surfer, or a robot-alien-surfer... His most compelling role to date was "The Day The Earth Stood Still"- but in that he wasn't really acting. [Coffee]

I thought he did great in "A Walk In The Clouds". But that was in '95.

275RLTW
07-25-2013, 12:25
Oh FFS! Hollyweird continues to ruin great classics with horrible writing and an overdependent need for gratuitous CGI effects! Anyone who's seen the original will know how great the story and message is...


But now, the remake involves supernatural BS, witches, and other ridiculous, over the top, CGI dependent stuff that strays so far from the original that the only thing the two have in common is the number of Spartans featured.


So...what's the difference?

Monky
07-25-2013, 12:32
Man I should get upset any time someone makes a new planet of the apes...

I guess the Japanese don't believe in any supernatural... Oh wait... They do


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

Ronin13
07-25-2013, 13:54
So...what's the difference?
See this:

Technically 300 wasn't a remake of "The 300 Spartans." So you cannot compare the two. 300 was a film adaptation of a Frank Miller graphic novel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_(comics)), loosely based on the battle of Thermopylae. [Beer]

Chad4000
07-25-2013, 14:10
I'll have to look into the original.. hadnt heard of it...

Ronin13
07-25-2013, 14:44
I'll have to look into the original.. hadnt heard of it...
It's old, black & white, but it's great! A true classic. Then again, I love those Japanese/Samurai films- especially Kurosawa films.

def90
07-25-2013, 14:52
Doesn't matter how many books or screenplays are released every year. In the end there are really only 7 basic plot lines that all stories follow.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSevenBasicPlots

<MADDOG>
07-25-2013, 15:16
Keanue Reeves....Enough said.

<MADDOG>
07-25-2013, 17:08
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ronin