Army doing away with lead bullets?

[hatidua]

I searched, if this has been posted before I missed it and someone will be along shortly to gleefully point out the error in my ways:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/24/ge...green-bullets/ (http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/24/getting-the-lead-out-literally-u-s-army-plans-switch-to-green-bullets/)

[Ah Pook]

'bout time. Those things will kill ya.

[GilpinGuy]

Wage war and save the planet at the same time....brilliant!

[generalmeow]

The EPA will probably ban all lead bullets. Just watch.

[hatidua]

The EPA will probably ban all lead bullets. Just watch.

-that's the first thing that crossed my mind.

[TEAMRICO]

The EPA will probably ban all lead bullets. Just watch.
If they do then someone let me know when and where I can turn mine in for Eco friendly ones.....will I just turn them in and get new ones or will they give me a rain check?
oh I pray for the planet and its creatures...............

[mdsmd]

How is this good when we have people steeling all copper they can get their hands on so that they can sell it for scrap and now we have to contend with the fact that we will now have a bigger demand copper. Wow I know that saving the planet seems like a great idea but to what cost?

[SA Friday]

The article kept mentioning just ow much lead they didn't have to buy, but failed to mention they had to buy equal to more in the same weight of copper and steel. Last I checked, copper costs more than lead, has a lower density, is harder to stabilize, kills barrels faster than lead core bullets, and takes more case space to load. It's going to cost more, burn barrels faster, and shoot less accurate. i hated the 62gr steel core vs the 55gr ammo in 5.56. Who the F do they thing they are fooling.

Just another example of our Govt selling stupid. They're doing this because of EPA having kittens over military ranges. I saw this shit coming for years. We are shooting frangible bullets in training now. What garbage.

[GilpinGuy]

The article kept mentioning just ow much lead they didn't have to buy, but failed to mention they had to buy equal to more in the same weight of copper and steel. Last I checked, copper costs more than lead, has a lower density, is harder to stabilize, kills barrels faster than lead core bullets, and takes more case space to load. It's going to cost more, burn barrels faster, and shoot less accurate. i hated the 62gr steel core vs the 55gr ammo in 5.56. Who the F do they thing they are fooling.

Just another example of our Govt selling stupid.

Yes, but before all else, the planet needs to be taken care of...[Roll1]

What's next for crying out loud?

[Gman]

Uh...the planet gave us the lead in the first place.

[GilpinGuy]

Uh...the planet gave us the lead in the first place.

That's right! Shooting it into the hill is just "returning it"! [LOL]

[Gman]

Exactly. We're just borrowing it.

Most of the time we make it safer by encasing it in gilding metal. Shoot more lead. Do it. For the children.

[ray1970]

Come on guys, if it saves just one life isn't it worth it?

[GilpinGuy]

Come on guys, if it saves just one life isn't it worth it?

They will take one life, but save others....somehow. LMFAO [facepalm]

[whitbaby]

Remember Joclyn Elder??

'What we need are shaffer gunz and shaffer bulletch'...

[SA Friday]

Matter is neither made nor destroyed, only transferred.

[halletts]

The 25 July closing price for lead was $0.93 per pound; it was $3.14 per pound for copper. This is a 200% increase in what they're going to pay for small arms bullets? Genius.

[Gman]

I guess they're doing away with machine guns since they have to make every shot count.

[Circuits]

Given their respective densities, they'll get 30% more bullets from a pound of copper than they would from a pound of lead, so only 2.3 times the cost per bullet for raw material, not triple.

[Bailey Guns]

At least for now, the EPA has been shut down on attempting to ban lead in bullets under the Toxic Substances Control Act:


(05/27/2013) Federal Judge Emmet G. Sullivan dismissed CBD’s lawsuit, finding that CBD’s current petition was nothing more than an attempt to seek reconsideration of their previous petition, which the EPA had denied. Judge Sullivan also indicated that he would defer to EPA’s determination that the agency was not congressionally authorized to regulate lead-based ammunition, according to the Institute for Legislative Action (http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2013/5/federal-judge-dismisses-lawsuit-to-ban-traditional-ammunition.aspx) of the NRA.


We'll see what the future holds. But the EPA and/or environmental groups are 0 for 3 (at least) so far in their attempts to ban lead in ammunition.

LINK (http://govtslaves.info/federal-court-blocks-epas-attempt-to-ban-all-ammunition-containing-lead/)

[skullybones]

Given their respective densities, they'll get 30% more bullets from a pound of copper than they would from a pound of lead, so only 2.3 times the cost per bullet for raw material, not triple.
Well, when you put it like that..