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StagLefty
01-31-2009, 18:40
I don't how many of you do emergency prepping but I was in Lowe's today and picked up a "Mr. Heater" propane heater for $39.50-50% off.Good deal for some back up heating either for camping or power out.
Great-Kazoo
01-31-2009, 20:19
add a generator to that list. the propane will keep the ice off you but with no electric that big trip you took to the market would have been a waste.
Got my generator running and I have electric heaters. Need more gas, but oil lamps heat the room pretty well too.
jerrymrc
01-31-2009, 20:48
I have prepared for just about anything that may happen. Not a big fan of the heater you bought. Carbon Monoxide is very high with those. I have been reading the news articles on the Ice storms and in some ways these people are in deep shit.
Being prepared should be based on the area you live in. Staying warm is a very real issue with a good 90% of our members. In other areas it is water.
Whatever the case may be one needs to identify the needs and address them. If one has an electric stove one needs to have a back up even if it is a one burner stove and a 6 pack of propane. At the very least one needs to address the basics and have other means on hand to perform the task.
I do not advocate everyone running out and buying some big ol generator.
I do have a small one and keep 10 gal of gas on hand for it but it is my last resort item.
It pains me to see people suffer when for the price of a couple nights out on the town one could be prepared for the curve balls that seemingly are coming with increased frequency.
Just some thoughts.
Heck, I can't even see the point of buying a generator, Chances are You already have one.. You may even drive it everyday... Just Get an inverter, 12vdc to 120vac...
Puts out enough amps to keep an electric space heater going.. No worries about CO2 that way..
Heck if Your real serious about it, dual battery setup in Your rig...
Unless You want to keep the whole house running for some reason,, Just to prove You are prepared I guess..
sniper_tim
01-31-2009, 22:39
Heck, i got everything I need for SHTF, a gun and few magazines full of ammo. My neighbors don't! Actually had a business professor tell me that one time
StagLefty
02-01-2009, 10:57
Carbon Monoxide is a concern when using any fuel space heater-that's why I have a few detectors in the house-inexpensive safety !
theGinsue
02-01-2009, 17:14
Heck, i got everything I need for SHTF, a gun and few magazines full of ammo. My neighbors don't! Actually had a business professor tell me that one time
In one of the Look Who's Talking movies, the brother-in-law of John Travolta's character comes to visit and goes to hang his coat in the closet when he sees water, etc. in the bottom of the closet. He asks Travolta's character what it's for and Travolta replies "You know, in case SHTF". The brother-in-law chuckles and says "You people crack me up. When the SHTF, who's going thirsty?" (said while showing a gun in a shoulder holster) [the conversation is not direct quotes, but paraphrased from my memory].
I have a small Mr. Heater propane heater where the unit has a metal frame, not one of the fancy new ones that looks like a nifty carry device. THe one I have can be turned on it's side to put a pot on the burner to cook/brew coffee. I use in in my ice fishing hut and stay nice and toasty.
In the case of a power outage I have a SMALL camper (not a pop-up) in my side yard with full propane tanks (I have 7 full 20lb ones) and always plugged in so the battery should be fully charged to run the heater fan. I also have a small generator to re-charge the battery, etc. The whole setup would be tight for a family of 4 (the youngest will be 17 in 1 wk and is taller than me!), but it would provide the essentials. It has an oven and a 3 burner gas stove (house has elec stove). I'm looking to get a larger camper and 2 80watt solar panels to recharge the battery(ies). The good thing about solar panels is that as long as there is SOME light, they can charge without the needs for gas or oil and they are quiet. In the case of a SHTF scenario, a noisey generator would cover the sound of someone coming to take what I have.
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Here is my oil lamp. They heat and light up the room. Works pretty well.
jerrymrc
02-01-2009, 21:51
In one of the Look Who's Talking movies, the brother-in-law of John Travolta's character comes to visit and goes to hang his coat in the closet when he sees water, etc. in the bottom of the closet. He asks Travolta's character what it's for and Travolta replies "You know, in case SHTF". The brother-in-law chuckles and says "You people crack me up. When the SHTF, who's going thirsty?" (said while showing a gun in a shoulder holster) [the conversation is not direct quotes, but paraphrased from my memory].
I have a small Mr. Heater propane heater where the unit has a metal frame, not one of the fancy new ones that looks like a nifty carry device. THe one I have can be turned on it's side to put a pot on the burner to cook/brew coffee. I use in in my ice fishing hut and stay nice and toasty.
In the case of a power outage I have a SMALL camper (not a pop-up) in my side yard with full propane tanks (I have 7 full 20lb ones) and always plugged in so the battery should be fully charged to run the heater fan. I also have a small generator to re-charge the battery, etc. The whole setup would be tight for a family of 4 (the youngest will be 17 in 1 wk and is taller than me!), but it would provide the essentials. It has an oven and a 3 burner gas stove (house has elec stove). I'm looking to get a larger camper and 2 80watt solar panels to recharge the battery(ies). The good thing about solar panels is that as long as there is SOME light, they can charge without the needs for gas or oil and they are quiet. In the case of a SHTF scenario, a noisey generator would cover the sound of someone coming to take what I have.
I have built my own panels. Now have 210W. The camper (24') travels with 175W of panels and 550Ah of batteries. I dry camp for a week at a time. I like mine because it has a 50gal fresh water tank. It would be nice to have a "survival and preparedness" Forum here. (hint-hint) I think there are many here that would respond to such a forum. I have done allot of posting about this on the Falfiles.
Fourthwind
02-02-2009, 17:39
It depends on the type of Mr Buddy heater it is. Some of them are the radiating sunflower burner, and then there are the types that have the square or rectangular ceramic plate. The ceramic plate types are catalitic (sp?) heaters and putt out very little carbon monoxide. they also have a low oxygen shut off, which is why they dont work well above 9,000 feet.
theGinsue
02-02-2009, 18:45
It depends on the type of Mr Buddy heater it is. Some of them are the radiating sunflower burner, and then there are the types that have the square or rectangular ceramic plate. The ceramic plate types are catalitic (sp?) heaters and putt out very little carbon monoxide. they also have a low oxygen shut off, which is why they dont work well above 9,000 feet.
The sunflower is the type I use in my ice hut. My buddy/hunting partner has the small version of the one with a ceramic plate (isn't this a gravity heater?) and uses it in his camper up in the mountains during hunting season. It CONSTANTLY dies - I never considered the low oxygen due to altitude as the cause.
[Bang]
I'm slow, but once I get it, I get it! Thanks for the insight!
Fourthwind
02-02-2009, 22:00
They call it a low oxygen sensor. What the "sensor" really is is a pilot flame that is positioned at a specific distance from a thermocouple. If the flame is too weak from the lack of oxygen or air pressure, then the thermocouple gets cold and shuts off the gas. I spent a great amount of time figuring a way around this since our Elk camp is above 9000 feet. The manufacture went to great lengths to make sure you can't easily adjust the distance, and for good legal reasons. The same reasons why I won't post how to easily get around it. [NoEvil]I have heard that some manufacture is making a high altitude version. Haven't seen it with my own eye's.
You probably can not use this since it is all ready discounted.
But go to the post office, and get a change of address packet, inside of it is a lowes 10% off coupon.
Just get as many as you need, say you need change of address forms for other people in the household, they are good until june 09
Or go if you want to give them your name and address and junk, they will e-mail you the coupon:
http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/online-community/free-lowes-10-off-printable-online-coupon/
Hopefully this saves someone a couple bucks.
Or (if you all ready got one) you can go in, and try o purchase a new one, and see if they will let you use the coupon, and if they do, just return the original one you got.
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