View Full Version : Denver Bronco arrested after CBI caught him with warrant at Gun Range.
HBARleatherneck
08-14-2013, 18:04
at Centennial Gun Club, must have failed the background because of his warrant
http://www.9news.com/news/article/350196/339/Von-Miller-arrested-after-failing-to-appear
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/sports/broncos/denver-broncos-linebacker-von-miller-arrested-on-outstanding-traffic-warrant
Bailey Guns
08-14-2013, 18:07
Doh!
Yeah he didn't even make it to jail. He just paid his bond over the phone or something and went on with his day.
OneGuy67
08-14-2013, 18:16
Yeah he didn't even make it to jail. He just paid his bond over the phone or something and went on with his day.
He was booked and released, meaning he posed for a booking photo and had his fingerprints taken and then released on bond. For the average person, the process in Arapahoe County takes about 4-6 hours, for him, I'm guessing he was prioritized and walked through. Say an hour out of his day.
He was in Vegas partying with DJ Williams when he was supposed to be in court on December 31st.
It was a traffic warrant so I personally don't think this should even be newsworthy.
hghclsswhitetrsh
08-14-2013, 18:20
I ain't got time for dat.
alan0269
08-14-2013, 18:21
That won't help his appeal tomorrow for his pending suspension...
hurley842002
08-14-2013, 18:38
personally, i dont think a bunch of millionaires playing a game is news worthy either, but everyone else seems to think so. they want to be in the spotlight, they get it good or bad.
Agree with you on this one....
Boadie30
08-14-2013, 19:23
It sucks... huge bronco fan and he is key to their success.. he is already facing 4. I believe this "should add 1" based on what should be local company policy... Bottom line, these type players (at the top from the start) have not felt the need for zero peronal responsibility but this does not hurt the NFLs bottom line no matter who. Denver in paticular has a very short timeframe in which to do the only thing that matters... there will not be a local punishment or an additional NFL for this latest arrest.. He will get a four game for using a controlled substance..
BPTactical
08-14-2013, 19:39
We are a nation of laws, not men.
No individual should be above the law.
There is a reason "Justice" wears a blindfold.
Unfortunately that blindfold is now made of dollar bills.
Now if I am not mistaken, is not his suspension for violating the NFL Controlled Substance rules?
Marijuana wasn't it?
So now hasn't he violated Federal law by stating he IS NOT an unlawful user/addicted to a controlled substance?
Isn't falsifying information on a 4473 punishable up to 10 years and $250,000 fine?
Just a random thought........
personally, i dont think a bunch of millionaires playing a game is news worthy either, but everyone else seems to think so. they want to be in the spotlight, they get it good or bad.
Well put.
personally, i dont think a bunch of millionaires playing a game is news worthy either, but everyone else seems to think so. they want to be in the spotlight, they get it good or bad.
I couldn't agree with you more. I have zero respect for any of those over-paid "pro" athletes. Not a f***ing one of those goons are worth a nickel of the oxygen they breathe. I don't watch them, endorse them, or give 2 shits if they live, die, or go to jail. The day they actually start paying them a hard-working man's salary is the day I'll start to have any respect for them. Same goes for the Hollywierd actors.
he should have to play by the same rules as everyone else. but we all know it doesn't work that way. just ask any politician.
Always amused at the people who think pro athletes of his caliber are overpaid. Have you seen the TV contracts and ticket sales the NFL makes? If anything these guys are underpaid for what they bring in. Value is decided by how much money you bring in and these guys bring in tons.
As for the actual story, it pisses me off that some liberal law is now affecting how my Broncos may perform on the field. He failed to appear in court over a wreckless driving charge and the background check alerted the police where he was when he was trying to purchase a gun. This is stupid, if they really wanted to arrest him, the Arapahoe Sheriff's Office is directly next door to where he works. They knew he was there the whole time, why now, when he tries to buy a gun is he arrested?
We are a nation of laws, not men.
No individual should be above the law.
There is a reason "Justice" wears a blindfold.
Unfortunately that blindfold is now made of dollar bills.
Now if I am not mistaken, is not his suspension for violating the NFL Controlled Substance rules?
Marijuana wasn't it?
So now hasn't he violated Federal law by stating he IS NOT an unlawful user/addicted to a controlled substance?
Isn't falsifying information on a 4473 punishable up to 10 years and $250,000 fine?
Just a random thought........
There has been no confirmation on what his actual suspension is for. The rumor is that he missed a drug test while overseas visiting the soldiers and the missed test triggered an automatic suspension. But again this is all just rumors at this point. His appeal hearing is today so we may know more later.
I couldn't agree with you more. I have zero respect for any of those over-paid "pro" athletes. Not a f***ing one of those goons are worth a nickel of the oxygen they breathe. I don't watch them, endorse them, or give 2 shits if they live, die, or go to jail. The day they actually start paying them a hard-working man's salary is the day I'll start to have any respect for them. Same goes for the Hollywierd actors.
What is your definition of overpaid? Are you a socialist who believes in wealth redistribution or do you believe in a free market capitalist system?
If you're a socialist I can see why you'd make such a ridiculous statement but if you believe in a free market you're now a full blown hypocrite. Athletes are paid based on the number of jerseys they sell and their impact on the team which keeps the stands full. As an example Peyton Manning is paid $19M a year. Since his signing the Broncos wait list for season tickets is the highest it's ever been. Broncos games are pulling in the highest TV viewership ratings they ever have and they're selling jerseys like crazy.
I'd hardly call these guys overpaid. They get paid a lot because they bring in a lot. That is a free market working exactly the way it is supposed to.
Well since this seems to be an appropriate place for this, I'll just say this explains my opinion perfectly:
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Question:
Does having a bench warrant make you a "fugitive from justice" (Question 11 d on ATF Form 4473) ?
Always amused at the people who think pro athletes of his caliber are overpaid. Have you seen the TV contracts and ticket sales the NFL makes? If anything these guys are underpaid for what they bring in. Value is decided by how much money you bring in and these guys bring in tons.
As for the actual story, it pisses me off that some liberal law is now affecting how my Broncos may perform on the field. He failed to appear in court over a wreckless driving charge and the background check alerted the police where he was when he was trying to purchase a gun. This is stupid, if they really wanted to arrest him, the Arapahoe Sheriff's Office is directly next door to where he works. They knew he was there the whole time, why now, when he tries to buy a gun is he arrested?
That's the difference between bench warrants and arrest warrants. With a bench warrant they wait for you instead of using resources tracking you down. Maybe if he had gone to court when he was supposed to instead of flying off to Vegas to party he wouldn't have any problems. I don't care about the traffic stop, if he would have just handled it like he was supposed to. I don't like that it seems like he figured he could just blow it off because he's good at tackling people and makes more money in a year than most will in a lifetime. The failed drug tests are another matter entirely, and yes it is tests as in plural. The NFL gives you a freebie that by the CBA doesn't get announced unless you have a second violation and then you actually get suspended. So if it is for failed marijuana tests he did lie on his 4473 and should be brought up on charges for that as well.
Question:
Does having a bench warrant make you a "fugitive from justice" (Question 11 d on ATF Form 4473) ?
Yes.
blacklabel
08-15-2013, 08:51
... buying things with their name on it. wearing another mans name on your shirt...its like being their bitch.
I tell people this all of the time and they just don't get it.
Bailey Guns
08-15-2013, 08:53
I never got the whole paying money to wear a dude's jersey thing.
SA Friday
08-15-2013, 09:24
Wow, talk about degenerating a discussion about a pro with a warrant into what exactly, the philosophy of jersey wearing? Seriously, I thought I was wrapped too tightly. [panic]
68Charger
08-15-2013, 09:31
i didnt say he was overpaid. he must not be. the reason why is a bunch of people worship these guys the same as an idol, buying things with their name on it. wearing another mans name on your shirt...its like being their bitch.
MCs do that to, but only the women have their mans name on their back.
i just cant believe how many poor people spend all their money to buy expensive products to worship their latest idol. and then make excuses for them when they play lousy. they are getting paid a lot, they should give everything every time.. period. we all are all expected to give everything at our jobs.
^^^^^^ THIS! +1000
Plus, it keeps the masses distracted...
kidicarus13
08-15-2013, 10:55
Always amused at the people who think pro athletes of his caliber are overpaid. Have you seen the TV contracts and ticket sales the NFL makes? If anything these guys are underpaid for what they bring in. Value is decided by how much money you bring in and these guys bring in tons.
Look in the mirror if you've been to any professional sports game or purchased any licnesed merchandise or point the finger at your sons, daughers, mothers, fathers, siblings, etc. Someone you know is enabling these athletes to make millions.
OneGuy67
08-15-2013, 11:40
Question:
Does having a bench warrant make you a "fugitive from justice" (Question 11 d on ATF Form 4473) ?
Simplistically, yes. Most Failure To Appear (FTA) warrants are booked into the jail (specifically in Arapahoe County) as a Fugitive Of Justice (FOJ) charge. However, as mentioned many, many times here, the form is a federal form and local DA's will not charge on it as it is a federal form and the AUSA's will not charge on it due to not meeting any charging threshold they have.
As for the actual story, it pisses me off that some liberal law is now affecting how my Broncos may perform on the field. He failed to appear in court over a wreckless driving charge and the background check alerted the police where he was when he was trying to purchase a gun. This is stupid, if they really wanted to arrest him, the Arapahoe Sheriff's Office is directly next door to where he works. They knew he was there the whole time, why now, when he tries to buy a gun is he arrested?
He failed to appear to court to answer for a summons of Careless Driving, Driving Without a Valid License and No Proof of Insurance. He was scheduled to appear in court and he did not do so. He was probably one of literally hundreds that also didn't appear for their tickets that week, that the judge signed a bench warrant for. The bench warrants are entered into CCIC/NCIC by the court clerks and are not seen by the Arapahoe County Sheriff's office at all. Also, the ticket is in his full name, which I'm guessing most don't know and it wouldn't have rang any bells going through the court process.
So, the idea that they knew he had a warrant and knew where he worked and should have arrested him at Dove Valley isn't a valid thought.
When he attempted to purchase a firearm, the warrant was observed and the local law enforcement was contacted by the CBI. He was arrested, booked and posted bond like any other person in that situation (although I am guessing at a much faster pace). The question I would have on this is, on his ticket he had a Texas driver's license and was ticketed for not having a valid driver's license, which could have been because he lives in Colorado, but still had a Texas DL, which the law requires you to change within 30 days of becoming a resident. Did he get a Colorado DL in between the time he was stopped and the time he tried to buy the firearm, or was he attempting to use his Texas DL to buy?
32663
Look in the mirror if you've been to any professional sports game or purchased any licnesed merchandise or point the finger at your sons, daughers, mothers, fathers, siblings, etc. Someone you know is enabling these athletes to make millions.
Yes, I go to Broncos games and support all the local teams... I'm a fan and even have an old Elway jersey, am I a bad guy now? If they would have sold tickets to watch the Bin Laden raid I probably would have watched that too but it doesn't work like that.
lowbeyond
08-15-2013, 12:05
oh noez ! traffic violations ! hang him
blacklabel
08-15-2013, 12:12
oh noez ! traffic violations ! hang him
That's racist.
I enjoy sports. Unfortunately, the people that play them have no sense of true reality. Watch ESPN's 30 for 30 episode "Broke" or something like that. It gives you some insight on their mentality. One guy got his first check and went to HR because he thought someone stole money from him. "Sir, those are taxes and the government takes them". What we perceive as irresponsible may be a case of ignorance/over-catering.
Either way, I will still watch games. I'll still look forward to Bronco's games on Sunday and I'll still wear my jersey. I support the players and our team. Are you the bitch for any company who's logo you wear? No, you're just showing support.
hghclsswhitetrsh
08-15-2013, 12:32
Man you guys are wound up tight. Sports, watching sports, etc is a hobby. Much like four wheeling, recreational shooting, and fishing. Lighten up, take a deep breath and try not to have an aneurysm.
Kraven251
08-15-2013, 12:34
What is your definition of overpaid? Are you a socialist who believes in wealth redistribution or do you believe in a free market capitalist system?
If you're a socialist I can see why you'd make such a ridiculous statement but if you believe in a free market you're now a full blown hypocrite. Athletes are paid based on the number of jerseys they sell and their impact on the team which keeps the stands full. As an example Peyton Manning is paid $19M a year. Since his signing the Broncos wait list for season tickets is the highest it's ever been. Broncos games are pulling in the highest TV viewership ratings they ever have and they're selling jerseys like crazy.
I'd hardly call these guys overpaid. They get paid a lot because they bring in a lot. That is a free market working exactly the way it is supposed to.
and they're still overpaid for what they do and what they are worth. I trade Peyton and any of the other big names in a heartbeat to have Chris Kyle, Danny Dietz, or any others that put foot to ass and went into harms way because it was their duty.
I'm happy for the pro athletes and their success. I wouldn't ask to take anything away from their paychecks, it doesn't change the fact they are valued way more than they are worth by the measure of a man.
You can still earn a wage well beyond what is logical, but it does not change the fact you are overpaid for what you do.
buffalobo
08-15-2013, 12:38
Man you guys are wound up tight. Sports, watching sports, etc is a hobby. Much like four wheeling, recreational shooting, and fishing. Lighten up, take a deep breath and try not to have an aneurysm.
Hey, stop that, you're gonna ruin the popcorn moment. :D
Sent from my electronic ball and chain.
Look in the mirror if you've been to any professional sports game or purchased any licnesed merchandise or point the finger at your sons, daughers, mothers, fathers, siblings, etc. Someone you know is enabling these athletes to make millions.
By your definition I'm an enabler and I don't have a single regret about it.
I own Broncos jerseys and Im a season ticket holder. I also subscribe to the NFL Sunday ticket. I have a Bronco dog collar that my dog wears on Sundays and even my 9 month old son has a Peyton Manning jersey.
I also attend professional drag racing events and own quite a bit of John Force memorabilia. I watch NASCAR and own quite a bit of Tony Stewart memorabilia.
Sports bring my family together. We enjoy the sports we watch and we have a great deal of fun watching them together. We wear garments with men and women's names on them in support of the athletes we enjoy the most because if we didn't there wouldn't be sports for us to enjoy.
There are bad apples in every sport just like there are bad apples in all facets of life. I won't quit watching sports and supporting my teams because a few idiots with more money than brain cells continue to make dumb choices.
kidicarus13
08-15-2013, 15:07
I am not a super fan of football, baseball, basketball, or hockey but I wanted to point out that these rich athletes aren't just making millions for no reason. If you like sports, support them. If you don't, don't. I didn't know people cared that much either way. And my final $.02... Comparing sports stars' salaries to the salaries of our military personnel is pointless.
KestrelBike
08-15-2013, 15:20
I ain't got time for dat.
Lol delicious.
KestrelBike
08-15-2013, 15:22
I am not a super fan of football, baseball, basketball, or hockey but I wanted to point out that these rich athletes aren't just making millions for no reason. If you like sports, support them. If you don't, don't. I didn't know people cared that much either way. And my final $.02... Comparing sports stars' salaries to the salaries of our military personnel is pointless.
Yup. It's a very clear cut case of what markets can and can't support. If the teams couldn't support those wages, they wouldn't pay them. Cue NFL being nazis with their footage control.
JM Ver. 2.0
08-15-2013, 15:32
He was booked and released, meaning he posed for a booking photo and had his fingerprints taken and then released on bond. For the average person, the process in Arapahoe County takes about 4-6 hours, for him, I'm guessing he was prioritized and walked through. Say an hour out of his day.
They don't rush it to help him. They rush them to make it easier on them.
You've never worked a jail, I don't think.
Having a celebrity or pro athlete in the jail SUCKS.
Same goes for cops and judges.
If they have to go anywhere in the hallway you have to lockdown saod hallways. You have to escort them. They have to be segregated...
It's more trouble than you'd think.
Someone like Miller is going to bond out no matter what. Why go through all the bullshit just to kick him out a few hours later?
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