Trust bypass of CLEO possibly going away??

[Eric P]

This may be old news for some, but I came across this today.

http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/pending-regs/318133-white-house-reviewing-draft-gun-control-rule

Sounds like the ATF wants to change the rules in the wrong way. Why would you need CLEO's background check, when the ATF background check should be more comprehensive?

[Great-Kazoo]

You Don`t need now, or will need CLEO s/off. Re-read it and or do a search in the archives. It says you would need to inform them after the fact.

[Lurch]

Looks like it is going through, sucks for people who live in counties with a non signing CLEO.

https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/inside-atf/2013/082913-wash-machine-guns-destructive-devices-and-certain-other-firearms.pdf

[asmo]

Dupe. http://www.ar-15.co/threads/114175-Get-mad-Obama-s-EO-closes-quot-loophole-quot-in-registering-firearms-to-trusts-bans-import-of-some-guns

[muddywings]

put this in the Legislation Section that asmo linked to but think it would better serve me to ask in here:

Any recommendations on moving forward at this point?
I just got my trust set up last month and was planning on doing my Form1 for an SBR build soon (possibly a Form4 for a suppressor too).


I just moved so I just put in for a new DL so I can go to an FFL transfer the lower from my ownership to my Trust. (was planning on including that documentation when I send in the Form 1.
Ordered fingerprint cards over the weekend (thinking it might be best just to have these done anyway, yes/no?)
Should I get Sheriff Maketa to do the CLEO sign off, just in case?


I figure if this was a 2-3 week process I would just push it through but since this is a 10-12 month process, who knows what the rules will be by the time they look at my paperwork.

Any thoughts??

[asmo]

If you have your trust ready to go, and if your submitting now (using the trust) there "shouldnt" be an issue. Would be very hard for them to say "We have 8 months of (trust) backlog that we are going to stop and send back because they don't have CLEO and fingerprint cards".. Not that it is impossible, but I don't think it will go down that way.

[Hound]

Yup, asked my lawyer who did the trust. If you do it now there should be no problems...... Except that HUGE hole in your pocket ;)

[SAnd]

Here is a link to the Federal Register with a copy of the Proposed Rule. It includes a link to comment on it. It also has instructions on how to comment by paper mail. It appears the 90 day comment rule officially starts Monday Sept 9.
https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/09/09/2013-21661/machine-guns-destructive-devices-and-certain-other-firearms-background-checks-for-responsible

I think people are being optimistic to think this won't effect applications already sent or NFA items already in a Legal Entity.