Borrowing, Lending & Background Checks

[wctriumph]

I was reading the new law recently passed and it is legal to transfer a firearm to someone for up to 72 hours without a background check. There are penalties for sure but it occurred to me that if two people got together and loaned each other their firearms and then forgot that they did so, how could the illegality of this transfer be enforced as there is no paper trail required to lend or borrow a firearm?

Our legislators are idiots.

[centrarchidae]

I was reading the new law recently passed and it is legal to transfer a firearm to someone for up to 72 hours without a background check. There are penalties for sure but it occurred to me that if two people got together and loaned each other their firearms and then forgot that they did so, how could the illegality of this transfer be enforced as there is no paper trail required to lend or borrow a firearm?

It's still illegal after 72 hours. Pretty much unenforceable, but illegal.


Our legislators are idiots.

What was your first hint? My rep (Cherilyn Peniston D-for-DEEDEEDEE) would forget to breathe if nobody reminded her.

[spqrzilla]

The penalty is liability for what is done with the gun inside the 72 hours, and a criminal conviction if its proven to be over 72 hours.

[Great-Kazoo]

The way to enforce it , is by bringing it up on the internetz.

[gos]

Or just take your gun back, and loan it back to them, every 3 days.

[68Guy]

Interesting wrinkle. I did a paint job on a few of my weapons in Duracoat and some of my peers really like it and have asked me if I could paint theirs. A typical paint job with prep, paint and drying time is probably 3-4 days and maybe a little longer if there are a large number of colors like in a digital camo job. Sooooo, any thoughts on how the whole 72 law would work into that? I am NOT an FFL and this would not be a permanent transfer or something that (should have) required a background check but hey, our lawmakers are idiots and dont think of any of these things. I expect others to answer "yeah it will be illegal over 72 hours" so I have to have the member come over and "lend it to me again" or, just not say anything to anyone... This whole convoluted spiderweb of firearms laws is just nuts.

[kidicarus13]

Interesting wrinkle. I did a paint job on a few of my weapons in Duracoat and some of my peers really like it and have asked me if I could paint theirs. A typical paint job with prep, paint and drying time is probably 3-4 days and maybe a little longer if there are a large number of colors like in a digital camo job. Sooooo, any thoughts on how the whole 72 law would work into that? I am NOT an FFL and this would not be a permanent transfer or something that (should have) required a background check but hey, our lawmakers are idiots and dont think of any of these things. I expect others to answer "yeah it will be illegal over 72 hours" so I have to have the member come over and "lend it to me again" or, just not say anything to anyone... This whole convoluted spiderweb of firearms laws is just nuts.


If you don't post on the internet only 2 people will know about it.

[Great-Kazoo]

If you don't post on the internet only 2 people will know about it.

And those 2 should keep quiet about it.
You have a firearm on your premises overnight for work, you better have a FFL. OR REMOVE your post any forums. You're trying to avoid hassles or technicalities with the new laws, why post about it?

[TEAMRICO]

.......this thread ........never existed.........move along.

[fj605]

This popped into my head yesterday and since I haven't read the law closely, I thought I'd share:

What if I drop my firearm off at a gunsmith who isn't an FFL? Do I need a background check to leave it with them and to pick it up? I don't sign my car title over to the mechanic to change the oil.

[fj605]

I see the question has already been brought up. D'oh!

[Circuits]

What if I drop my firearm off at a gunsmith who isn't an FFL?

No such thing. Anyone working on someone else's firearm for compensation is required to have an FFL.