Too hot for school?

[Dave_L]

Maybe I'm off base with this but I think it's kind of ridiculous. We cancel school because its too cold, too hot, potentially a big storm, etc. Every "extreme" means time off school. Is it really THAT bad? Maybe I've been out of school too long to remember what it'd be like in 95 degrees but if sports are still on, why is it too hot to sit in a classroom? Maybe a parent can shine some light onto this for me?

http://kdvr.com/2013/08/29/more-than-50-area-schools-cancel-friday-classes-due-to-heat/

[Mtn.man]

Pussy teachers, we hada go to school, gather the wood for the stove walk up hill both ways, fetch water from the well, face blizzards, withstand 100+ degree temps, get whoopn's from the teach if we was bad, than get another from the parents when they found out.....
Blah blah blah.

[Dave]

Were the blizzards and 100* temps in the same day too?

Our schools in MI never had A/C and I remember a couple of indian summers that we had 90+* temps at the end of Sep and still had to go to school.

[Great-Kazoo]

2 words TEACHERS UNION ok 4 words POLITICAL CORRECTNESS..

[blacklabel]

Creating another generation of pussies. God forbid an 8 year old faces any kind of adversity.

[Great-Kazoo]

Creating another generation of pussies. God forbid an 8 year old faces any kind of adversity.

YOU KEEP DIVISIVENESS OUT OF THIS YOUNG MAN, OUT I SAY!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWIxCbB9-JA

[cofi]

I imagine it's hard enough to keep kids focused when it's nice and cool in there

90+ probably resembles Lord of the flies

[merl]

This is a leadup to another bond issue. "We're having to shut down schools because we don't have AC."

[Great-Kazoo]

I imagine it's hard enough to keep kids focused when it's nice and cool in there

90+ probably resembles Lord of the flies

Thank you PIGGY, for your input. Now Kill Him!

[Ridge]

I imagine it's hard enough to keep kids focused when it's nice and cool in there

90+ probably resembles Lord of the flies

Exactly. There are 20+ people in a room, all moving around, generating heat. It's going to be hell.

[akumadiavolo]

95+ Degrees and many schools don't have any or adequate AC. Nothing would get done anyway.

[StagLefty]

95+ Degrees and many schools don't have any or adequate AC. Nothing would get done anyway.

So just like any other day ?

[Mtn.man]

"too hot to fish,,, too hot for golf" so must be too hot for school....




Hot for teacher

[trlcavscout]

I went to 5th, 6th, 7th grade in Arizona. When they AC went out we would go outside and have class. 100 degree plus days weren't out of the norm at all. In 7th grade we had football practice before and after school.

The rest of the time was here and we used to get a lot of snow and cold in the 1980's before al gore invented global warming. We rarely had snow days.

I agree the teachers unions are the debil!

[Ridge]

You adapt to the environment. You live in Arizona, you become more capable of withstanding higher temperatures. It gets down into the 60s in the winter in Arizona. Colorado has 100 degree swings between summer and winter. You can't adapt to that easily.

[cofi]

I went to 5th, 6th, 7th grade in Arizona. When they AC went out we would go outside and have class. 100 degree plus days weren't out of the norm at all. In 7th grade we had football practice before and after school.

The rest of the time was here and we used to get a lot of snow and cold in the 1980's before al gore invented global warming. We rarely had snow days.

I agree the teachers unions are the debil!

Things were rough for us growing up I had to walk uphill to school both ways with just a warm tator tot to keep my hands warm

I also remember 2 or 3 kids falling out from heat stroke every year during field day (yes I was fat and yes I dropped like a brick)

[JohnTRourke]

They don't learn anything anyway, what difference does it make??????

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

Wtf I don't have A/C at work in the car and at home and these pussy ass mother fuckers are complaining every school I've ever been in had A/C set to 72 on my dime. you gotta love the pusification of America

[kawiracer14]

I missed where the guys working on my truck have AC in their garage? They don't close down in August because it's too hot.

I don't have AC on my motorcycle that I ride to work... Guess I don't have to go!

[PugnacAutMortem]

I thought this was because of the temperatures outside...but if it's because the schools don't have AC then I can actually understand this. I think alot of folks in this thread are just bitter [Coffee]

[Dave_L]

This was posted on FB by a girl:

"Would it be wrong to quit my job because there is no air conditioning?#sofuckinghotiquit"

:Facepalm:

[cmailliard]

Cancel school stupid. Early release is better. When I was in high school in Omaha we would have early release most days until at least Labor Day. No A/C, temps in the rooms was close 100 with 90% humidity.

Now fire academy during the August and September in Omaha, you went into the fire to cool off. One night we had half the class with IV's in due to heat stress.

[BigBear]

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[cofi]

deleted.
Ahhh I was looking fwd to your opinion since u are in the trenches

[WETWRKS]

Yet they continue to push for year around school.

[Dave_L]

I'd love to hear from a teacher or school staff. I don't have any kids in the school system so I can't speak first hand on any of this. It just seems ridiculous from my independent point of view. After all, how hot DID it get today?

[Ronin13]

I dunno how it was in Denver, but over in Lakewood, as we get breaks every hour or so and I went outside on most of them today, it wasn't that bad- partly cloudy for the majority of the day, and when we left at 1630 it was raining. What a crock! I fail to see how it got so hot that the little chirrens were suffering. Thus continues the pussification of America. [Shake]

[BigBear]

Ahhh I was looking fwd to your opinion since u are in the trenches

Well, fine then. Flame Suit on: If parents would actually spend time with their children, raise them, and then teach them some common (not so common anymore) ideals such as responsibility, manners, standards, morals, ethics, integrity, intrinsic motivation, etc we ALL would be in a far better place in our education system. All the pandering, and "pussification" in our schools happen because the liberal ahole parents are the ones that actually go to the community meetings or find time to make an appointment with the principals/admins/supers to make their view-points known. In all my years of teaching, I've steadily seen a decline in parental involvement because everyone is "too busy". I work 70+ hours a week (not including all the time spent on weekends for football season, etc) plus hundreds of hours in the summers to try and teach your enititled, rude, thugish, ILLITERATE child something that just might help them get ahead in life. And no, that hours spent is not compensated for over time, etc. I am a musician and it's the price I pay to try and teach, keep up my own chops, etc. Do not pity me for I chose it as my lifes pursuit. I am happy with my decision.
I often find... no, I ALWAYS find that the attitude of the children is a direct imitation of the attitude the parents posseses. It is NOT my job to raise YOUR child. It is my job to try and get them interested in learning so that hopefully they will be a contributing member to society. A lot of the fighting, problems, etc in our society can be solved if we would stop finger pointing and blaming each other. We ALL play a part.

Now, I am not trying to say how much better I am than you, etc. Much the opposite if truth be told. I want to help, I want kids to succeed. Lord knows I don't do it because of the money or the benefits. I can't do my job as a teacher without you as the parent. We spend so much time disciplining, correcting, raising your kids that there is virtually NO education happening. We (via YOUR taxes... from people who don't even HAVE kids) even feed your kids while you just have to have that pack of cigarettes or 6-pack of Bud. Lord forbid you actually have to go without your hourly cigarettes to buy Johnny a coat in the winter time....

Let me calm down... more later....


Yet they continue to push for year around school.

I think that year round school will eventually win out. All the welfare hood rats who can't take care of their own children, will opt to give them to the government. Especially when they find that they can save money and even GET money for doing so. They are already talking about 5 hour workdays for school, just year long... Don' get me started on all the problems and how expensive that will be (for the tax payer = YOU)....


I'd love to hear from a teacher or school staff. I don't have any kids in the school system so I can't speak first hand on any of this. It just seems ridiculous from my independent point of view. After all, how hot DID it get today?

At my school, we have been without AC for three weeks due to the bond construction issues. It has constantly reached over 100 degrees by noon. We do what we can with box fans etc. However, thanks to our "safety" and litgious society, we are NOT allowed to open windows/doors to get airflow. We just have to deal with it. Let me tell you, 40+ hot, complaining, rude, thuggish kids who only want to push the one teacher around gets tiring very quickly. I can understand why the admins cancel school.

Fortunately, my kids are decently behaved and I treat them like adults so I do not have most of the discipline problems that other people do. Yes it is hot. No we haven't cancelled school. Yes, the days are long and tiresome. But I wouldn't give it up. I have taken the kids outside several times. I've bought them bottled water, etc. You do what you can and keep trucking along. Complaining doesn't solve anything... and yes, I do complain a lot.

Please stop lumping all teachers into one column... There are some out there who do try to make the difference. I know I lumped all parents into a single column with my previous paragraph and I do not apologize (yet) for that remark. Prove me wrong, get involved in your childs school. Are you getting irritated? Is it hitting close to home? I am not your babysitter. I am not your friend. I am your teacher, your mentor, your counselor, your guardian angel, etc.

Yes, you have the worlds biggest balls because you've walked through hell and a blizzard at the same time fourteen miles to school all uphill boths ways carrying the Encyclopedia Britannica Yes, your balls are gigantic because you work with smelted iron all day in a brick housed shop with a tin roof, no AC, and a furnace of 3K degrees... Good for you.. how does that help solve the problem?

Maybe we are all seeing the pussification because we can bitch like a pussy, but no one is willing to step up and contribute to solving the problem?

Oh look, I missed the bullseye... must be the scope....

If there's anything else I can clear up, let me know.

Flame suit is on.... literally, it's hot in there.

[BigBear]

And on the pussification...


Did you know that we can't play tackle football during recess cause someone might get hurt?
Did you know that we can't even play touch football cause someone might trip?
Did you know that we can't even run because someone might run faster than someone else and "that's just not fair"?

Make your voice heard or it won't get better... Litigious society and all that jazz.

[Ridge]

And on the pussification...


Did you know that we can't play tackle football during recess cause someone might get hurt?
Did you know that we can't even play touch football cause someone might trip?
Did you know that we can't even run because someone might run faster than someone else and "that's just not fair"?

Make your voice heard or it won't get better... Litigious society and all that jazz.

What's this "we" stuff?

[UrbanWolf]

Some schools in Foco were also canceled.

[BigBear]

What's this "we" stuff?

"We" as in the school district I work for. It's more than just one school.

[cmailliard]

Well, fine then. Flame Suit on: If parents would actually spend time with their children, raise them, and then teach them some common (not so common anymore) ideals such as responsibility, manners, standards, morals, ethics, integrity, intrinsic motivation, etc we ALL would be in a far better place in our education system. All the pandering, and "pussification" in our schools happen because the liberal ahole parents are the ones that actually go to the community meetings or find time to make an appointment with the principals/admins/supers to make their view-points known. In all my years of teaching, I've steadily seen a decline in parental involvement because everyone is "too busy". I work 70+ hours a week (not including all the time spent on weekends for football season, etc) plus hundreds of hours in the summers to try and teach your enititled, rude, thugish, ILLITERATE child something that just might help them get ahead in life. And no, that hours spent is not compensated for over time, etc. I am a musician and it's the price I pay to try and teach, keep up my own chops, etc. Do not pity me for I chose it as my lifes pursuit. I am happy with my decision.
I often find... no, I ALWAYS find that the attitude of the children is a direct imitation of the attitude the parents posseses. It is NOT my job to raise YOUR child. It is my job to try and get them interested in learning so that hopefully they will be a contributing member to society. A lot of the fighting, problems, etc in our society can be solved if we would stop finger pointing and blaming each other. We ALL play a part.

Now, I am not trying to say how much better I am than you, etc. Much the opposite if truth be told. I want to help, I want kids to succeed. Lord knows I don't do it because of the money or the benefits. I can't do my job as a teacher without you as the parent. We spend so much time disciplining, correcting, raising your kids that there is virtually NO education happening. We (via YOUR taxes... from people who don't even HAVE kids) even feed your kids while you just have to have that pack of cigarettes or 6-pack of Bud. Lord forbid you actually have to go without your hourly cigarettes to buy Johnny a coat in the winter time....

Let me calm down... more later....



I think that year round school will eventually win out. All the welfare hood rats who can't take care of their own children, will opt to give them to the government. Especially when they find that they can save money and even GET money for doing so. They are already talking about 5 hour workdays for school, just year long... Don' get me started on all the problems and how expensive that will be (for the tax payer = YOU)....



At my school, we have been without AC for three weeks due to the bond construction issues. It has constantly reached over 100 degrees by noon. We do what we can with box fans etc. However, thanks to our "safety" and litgious society, we are NOT allowed to open windows/doors to get airflow. We just have to deal with it. Let me tell you, 40+ hot, complaining, rude, thuggish kids who only want to push the one teacher around gets tiring very quickly. I can understand why the admins cancel school.

Fortunately, my kids are decently behaved and I treat them like adults so I do not have most of the discipline problems that other people do. Yes it is hot. No we haven't cancelled school. Yes, the days are long and tiresome. But I wouldn't give it up. I have taken the kids outside several times. I've bought them bottled water, etc. You do what you can and keep trucking along. Complaining doesn't solve anything... and yes, I do complain a lot.

Please stop lumping all teachers into one column... There are some out there who do try to make the difference. I know I lumped all parents into a single column with my previous paragraph and I do not apologize (yet) for that remark. Prove me wrong, get involved in your childs school. Are you getting irritated? Is it hitting close to home? I am not your babysitter. I am not your friend. I am your teacher, your mentor, your counselor, your guardian angel, etc.

Yes, you have the worlds biggest balls because you've walked through hell and a blizzard at the same time fourteen miles to school all uphill boths ways carrying the Encyclopedia Britannica Yes, your balls are gigantic because you work with smelted iron all day in a brick housed shop with a tin roof, no AC, and a furnace of 3K degrees... Good for you.. how does that help solve the problem?

Maybe we are all seeing the pussification because we can bitch like a pussy, but no one is willing to step up and contribute to solving the problem?

Oh look, I missed the bullseye... must be the scope....

If there's anything else I can clear up, let me know.

Flame suit is on.... literally, it's hot in there.

^^^What he said^^^

[Aloha_Shooter]

You adapt to the environment. You live in Arizona, you become more capable of withstanding higher temperatures. It gets down into the 60s in the winter in Arizona. Colorado has 100 degree swings between summer and winter. You can't adapt to that easily.

Do you bother to think about what you wrote before pressing "Post"? Just what the heck do you think people did here 50+ years ago? Or do you think Colorado just suddenly got people immigrating after all homes had A/C?

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

And on the pussification...


Did you know that we can't play tackle football during recess cause someone might get hurt?
Did you know that we can't even play touch football cause someone might trip?
Did you know that we can't even run because someone might run faster than someone else and "that's just not fair"?

Make your voice heard or it won't get better... Litigious society and all that jazz.

oh how times have changed I remember in elementary school we did all of those things but when a ball of some sort wasn't available we would fight with pine cones, snow balls, or rocks and I'm only 23, now that I think about it a lot of people did get hurt lol. Maybe we should require or kids to wear helmets and protective clothing and keep them inside and shelter them from the world until we kick them out on their ass and how should anybody have to live with out cool air it's just barbaric

[BigBear]

oh how times have changed I remember in elementary school we did all of those things but when a ball of some sort wasn't available we would fight with pine cones, snow balls, or rocks and I'm only 23, now that I think about it a lot of people did get hurt lol. Maybe we should require or kids to wear helmets and protective clothing and keep them inside and shelter them from the world until we kick them out on their ass and how should anybody have to live with out cool air it's just barbaric

Yes. Failure has taught me a lot. Broken bones has taught me a lot. Fisticuffs have taught me a lot... I really do worry about our kids and the victim hood/entitlement mentality coupled with the "it's not fair" and "if it only saves one kid" political correctness that has run amok.

[soldier-of-the-apocalypse]

Yes. Failure has taught me a lot. Broken bones has taught me a lot. Fisticuffs have taught me a lot... I really do worry about our kids and the victim hood/entitlement mentality coupled with the "it's not fair" and "if it only saves one kid" political correctness that has run amok.
Thank you it's good to see a teacher that actually cares and lives in the real world I only had a small handful of teachers like that and they made a whole lot more of a impression on me then the asshole teachers that only cared about them selves and their agenda and they were just riding the clock and waiting for a pension. Keep up the good work sir.

[BigBear]

Thank you it's good to see a teacher that actually cares and lives in the real world I only had a small handful of teachers like that and they made a whole lot more of a impression on me then the asshole teachers that only cared about them selves and their agenda and they were just riding the clock and waiting for a pension. Keep up the good work sir.

Eh, don't thank me yet - I "just teach music" (ha, BS) and it is critically under valued in our society. Not sure most schools will still have Arts programs in a few years....

[Aloha_Shooter]

Eh, don't thank me yet - I "just teach music" (ha, BS) and it is critically under valued in our society. Not sure most schools will still have Arts programs in a few years....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng3l4vEN3Dk

I will say that I'm one of those who thinks education needs to get back to basics and concentrate on skills applicable to everyday life as well as teaching kids to really think. I'm not up on the details of the curriculum these days other than I'm continually appalled at what kids don't know and aren't being taught (I work with teenage boys regularly). Having said that, classic (as opposed to "classical") studies in art and music are a vital part of rounding out their knowledge and appreciation of the world. I happen to think it enhances their appreciation of really good works if they are taught a little about harmony, chord structure, etc. Why Gershwin will be timeless and (IMO) Gaga won't .... I just hate it when someone tries to pass off some Andy Warhol-like cheap fast junk as if it deserved to be in the same room with a Titian or even Robert McCall.

[dorsum]

When I was going to school in Alabama, they did not have AC. Just sayin.