ATF TRACE

[battle_sight_zero]

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[TFOGGER]

If I had to guess, the pistol in question was probably recovered as stolen property, or as evidence in a crime investigation. You have nothing to worry about, since you know the disposition of the firearm in question.

[sniper7]

Nothing to worry about. You did your due diligence. You aren't the one who committed the crime. Luckily the bill morse drafted wasn't passed as that could have had potential implications.

[ray1970]

I wouldn't sweat it. You did not commit a crime with it so you should be OK. I sold a rifle years ago. Apparently, it somehow ended up in the wrong hands. The dealer I bought the lower receiver from contacted me to see if I still owned it. I told him no. I had sold it several months ago. He informed me that it had been used in the commission of a crime and that some federal agency was inquiring about it. He told me he would tell them that I was no longer the owner of the weapon and I never heard another word about it.

[BPTactical]

What Fogger said. As long as you have a means of verifying your disposition, you don't have much to worry about.
I had a similar thing happen to me, I had purchased a MKIII over the counter from a LGS and traded it off via a transaction on another website in a FTF deal. A couple of years later I am in the same LGS and get asked by the owner about the MKIII. They had been contacted by the ATF for a trace. Luckily for me I had copies of all communications on a flash drive and a bill of trade on file.
Longmont detective contacted me and I just told him of the transaction, who I conducted it with, the dates and that I did have records of such. He thanked me and told me they had recovered it in a traffic stop and now they could add burglary to the charges against the guy in the TS.
The guy I had done the swap with had his house burglarized 2 weeks earlier.

Keep records guys.

[battle_sight_zero]

Good remarks, however the thing I worry about is the stuff I had on the Qwest storage being gone ,the flood and not being able to locate the former member. All my trades and purchases post 2010 I do have documentation for in my msn accounts and hard drive. Going to thumb them this week. Kind of ironic that there were many posts about private transfers and documentation in the past and how many members thought bill of sales were not needed. Seems a bill of sale here would be a good thing to have. My mistake for right now is my files are gone or destroyed for 2010 and before in some cases. I wont sweat to much about this, because I did nothing wrong, but in this political climate you never know what could arise.

[Circuits]

Any time a firearm comes into official inventory of LE they're gonna quick check the serials on NCIC at least, and probably submit a trace request. It's SOP many places and a typical LE thing.

I've had customers being stopped by LE for speeding with a firearm I sold them in the vehicle generate a trace request back to me through ATF.

[def90]

Good remarks, however the thing I worry about is the stuff I had on the Qwest storage being gone ,the flood and not being able to locate the former member. All my trades and purchases post 2010 I do have documentation for in my msn accounts and hard drive. Going to thumb them this week. Kind of ironic that there were many posts about private transfers and documentation in the past and how many members thought bill of sales were not needed. Seems a bill of sale here would be a good thing to have. My mistake for right now is my files are gone or destroyed for 2010 and before in some cases. I wont sweat to much about this, because I did nothing wrong, but in this political climate you never know what could arise.

There is no law that requires you to even keep records so you are worrying about nothing. If they call just tell them who you sold it to and that's all that matters.

[sniper7]

One thing I will bring up with the bills of sale and electronic records of it is that if an account becomes compromised, even at no fault of your own, there has potential to be a good bit of personal information on it, name, address, signature, drivers license are pretty common on a bill of sale.

[asmo]

What Fogger said. As long as you have a means of verifying your disposition, you don't have much to worry about.


Keep records guys.

Just to be contrary here and to bring some sanity into the above -- as a non-licensee you are under NO obligation to keep records of the disposition of any firearm. If they call and ask, you say you sold it. To whom? When? Where? Don't know, don't remember, don't care.

[cstone]

If I personally lost as much data as any local, state, or federal government entities have lost, just over my lifetime, I might have something to worry about.

Be safe.

[10mm-man]

Just to be contrary here and to bring some sanity into the above -- as a non-licensee you are under NO obligation to keep records of the disposition of any firearm. If they call and ask, you say you sold it. To whom? When? Where? Don't know, don't remember, don't care.


^^This..... Gone sorry. Obviously they know were it is now... Not your duty, personally that is.

[BPTactical]

Just to be contrary here and to bring some sanity into the above -- as a non-licensee you are under NO obligation to keep records of the disposition of any firearm. If they call and ask, you say you sold it. To whom? When? Where? Don't know, don't remember, don't care.

Very, very true. But recording a sale/trade is something I have always done when it came to a firearm, even before my FFL.
Even with my FFL I am not compelled by law to record my private firearm transactions but you know the old saw "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure"

[cofi]

Just to be contrary here and to bring some sanity into the above -- as a non-licensee you are under NO obligation to keep records of the disposition of any firearm. If they call and ask, you say you sold it. To whom? When? Where? Don't know, don't remember, don't care.


^^This..... Gone sorry. Obviously they know were it is now... Not your duty, personally that is.