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BPTactical
09-02-2013, 20:03
Just how stupid does this man think we are?
His statement of: "“These recall elections cost a small fortune and do nothing to improve democracy or representative government,”

Excuse me?
1- We are NOT a Democracy!
2- This is EVERYTHING a "Representative Government is!
Reading the red will make you see red!

Hickenlooper: you are an absolute Asshat!
[pileoshit]

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/michaelschaus/2013/09/02/colorado-governor-goes-far-left-in-nationwide-appeal-to-gungrabbers-n1689132/page/full

It never fails. Paint a Democrat into a corner (or let him do it to himself) and his true colors will start to show. The “moderate” and “reasonable” Democrat Governor of New-New-York (AKA: Colorado) has finally come out forcefully against the recall elections of some anti-gun members of the State Legislature. The two Democrat State Senators are facing recall attempts after they supported the recent slew of gun-control measures that were ultimately signed into law by Governor John Hickenlooper.

“These recall elections cost a small fortune and do nothing to improve democracy or representative government,” Hickenlooper wrote in a letter distributed by the Democrat National Committee (http://coloradopols.com/diary/48471/hickenlooper-swings-into-action-for-morse-giron). Nothing like preaching to the choir: Democrats have long complained about the cost of running government unless that cost is accrued as a consequence of Obamacare, Medicare, Medicaid, social security, food stamps, TANF, unemployment, Public Sector Labor Unions, etc.. Heaven forbid government be forced to fund legitimate functions of representative governance.
The assertion seemed to be that we should be outraged government is expected to fund an electoral process requested by a petition of the people. Those pesky citizens: Demanding that their representatives actually represent their interests. Such concerns are obviously trivial, and not worthy of political action. After all, it’s not as if concerns over citizen representation was responsible for 13 colonies demanding independence back in the 1770’s. . . Right?
The Colorado Governor went on to suggest that the elections are merely attempts by a radical few to “intimidate and punish a select number of Democratic legislators for daring to vote their conscience”. Well. . . I guess facing the discord of a gun owning public certainly could be intimidating. Oh, and let’s not forget that more people signed the petition to recall John Morse (one of the two State Senators who are currently facing recall) than originally voted him into office. Is the Colorado Governor really suggesting that legislators should be free from reprimand as long as they feel that they voted “their conscience”?
The former Brewery owner then had the audacity to say that the legislation was truly inconsequential in the long run, given that it only places “modest restrictions on future sales of high capacity gun magazines.” Apparently, to Democrats, the outright ban of any transfer, sale, or future possession of any high capacity magazine is merely a “modest restriction.” By that logic, the petitioners who are trying to recall the Democrat State Senators are merely trying to “modestly restrict” the remainder of their terms.
But then, Hickenlooper became accidently comical: “We were only able to pass the law because Democratic legislators had the courage to stand up to outside special interests.” I don’t suppose the Democrat Governor, and former member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, considers Bloomberg’s $350,000 gift to the Colorado Democrats any sort of “outside special interest.” He must be referring to groups like Independence Institute (located in Denver, Colorado) which has decided to sue against some of the laws.
In addition to insulting concerned voters and decrying a legitimate political process, the Governor also recycled the tired case for his gun control bills. He mentioned how safe the world will be after placing the above-mentioned restrictions on high-capacity magazines. (Because, it’s pretty obvious that banning the 16th bullet in a high capacity magazine would somehow create a blissful land of security and safety.) He mentioned how“expanding background checks to cover all gun sales [will] prevent violent criminals from acquiring guns.” I assume this gem is based off of the widely understood fact that criminals are notorious for following the laws, regulations, and “modest restrictions” that are placed on everyone else.
At one point the Governor even suggested that last year’s “5,000” denied gun applications prove background checks work. Having worked at gun dealerships, I can tell you that number includes “false denials” and “mistaken denials.” For those who have doubts about that claim, consider this: Out of the 76,000 denied applications nationwide in 2010, only 13 ended up being prosecuted (http://harris.house.gov/video/why-expand-gun-background-checks-when-only-13-were-prosecuted-breaking-law). . . But, yeah: Making me run a background check on my best friend when I give them a gun for their birthday will completely stop criminals from obtaining illegal firearms.
The Governor’s Bloomberg-style understanding of gun issues aside, his “national appeal” via the Democrat party illustrates his liberal and authoritarian bent. Had the gun groups been abortion groups recalling Texas legislators, or labor groups recalling Wisconsin legislators, Democrats would be praising the “courage” of the citizens. Hickenlooper’s letter is merely an appeal to the Statists within the Democrat party.
Most egregious is the Governor’s decision to decry the recall efforts in a letter distributed by the National Democrat Party. Hickenlooper has shown that his interest in representing all Coloradoans is not nearly as important as accumulating support and respect among the increasingly left wing Democrat machine. His remarks were not crafted as an attempt to reach out to the discouraged voters who feel disenfranchised by their representatives. Instead, he crafted a letter to “outside interests” in an effort to inject national powers into the Colorado recall.
Hardly the actions of a “moderate” party member. If he’s not careful, the voters of Colorado may decide to place upon his future political plans “modest restrictions”.

sniper7
09-02-2013, 20:45
Hickenlooper can suck a dick in prison. That is where he belongs.

BigDee
09-02-2013, 20:52
There is "possibly" a shining light at the end of the tunnel.

My family is a bunch of California liberal democrats. They are the people who moved here from California and have changed the political climate of this state for the worse.

I had a barbecue today and asked them how they feel about Hickenlooper. They all said he's a spineless coward and despite their hatred of Republicans they hate Hickenlooper so much they will either not vote or vote for a republican in the next election because they will not vote for Hickenlooper again. They also now hate Obama because they have come to the realization that he makes GW Bush look like an amazing leader.

SirSai
09-02-2013, 21:00
There is "possibly" a shining light at the end of the tunnel.

My family is a bunch of California liberal democrats. They are the people who moved here from California and have changed the political climate of this state for the worse.

I had a barbecue today and asked them how they feel about Hickenlooper. They all said he's a spineless coward and despite their hatred of Republicans they hate Hickenlooper so much they will either not vote or vote for a republican in the next election because they will not vote for Hickenlooper again. They also now hate Obama because they have come to the realization that he makes GW Bush look like an amazing leader.
This made me laugh. Thank you.

Ridge
09-02-2013, 21:09
Y'all need to remember that these recalls are not because they passed gun laws. That is petty and childish. They are being recalled because they willfully ignored the people that elected them to represent them.

Irving
09-02-2013, 21:14
Is it just me, or is Bert less than enamored with our current governor and White House administration? I never realized it before now.

Gman
09-02-2013, 21:15
Shocking, huh?

This is coming from the same party that believes bi-partisanship is agreeing with everything they want to do.

Who believes that those that were growing pot for profit when it was illegal will be following the laws and will be paying taxes now?

BPTactical
09-02-2013, 21:52
Y'all need to remember that these recalls are not because they passed gun laws. That is petty and childish. They are being recalled because they willfully ignored the people that elected them to represent them.

^^^ This!

mcjhr
09-02-2013, 21:53
I have nothing nice to say about Hickenlooper. Disgusting and Disgraceful. He literally makes me want to spit.

Jeffrey Lebowski
09-03-2013, 08:54
There is "possibly" a shining light at the end of the tunnel.

My family is a bunch of California liberal democrats. They are the people who moved here from California and have changed the political climate of this state for the worse.

I had a barbecue today and asked them how they feel about Hickenlooper. They all said he's a spineless coward and despite their hatred of Republicans they hate Hickenlooper so much they will either not vote or vote for a republican in the next election because they will not vote for Hickenlooper again. They also now hate Obama because they have come to the realization that he makes GW Bush look like an amazing leader.

My liberal inlaws just moved here so I'm sure they missed all this, but I wish they'd join the ranks of your family.
Wonder how many other "moderate democrats" (yeah, I know...) feel the same and/or have been paying attention.

dirtrulz
09-03-2013, 09:01
Since when did we hire then to vote with their conscience. They are merely there to regurgitate what the majority of their constituents want. We dont hire them to be our conscience or out guiding light in the darkness. Some day maybe we can get them to realize they work for us. In todays modern world with almost instant vote tracking and electronic voting I dont see why the people cant have more of a say in what happens in government.

I am tired of them saying they did what they thought was right. I We dont really care what they think, they are merely one vote, just like everyone else.

sellersm
09-03-2013, 09:27
This is my surprised face.

kawiracer14
09-03-2013, 13:42
What a spineless dick.

brutal
09-03-2013, 15:40
Visiting the family in Wisconsin over the long weekend, and while they're all Repubs or flipped repub after Obama's mess (or not admitting otherwise), my brother says, "sensible limits.." and "if you need more than 15 rounds..." I told him first what a stupid fucktard he was, that it was not about hunting, and asked him how my wife could conceivably defend herself against multiple attackers with "only" 15 rounds in her AR-15? I also asked him how many criminals he thought would obey the "sensible" gun laws. He changed the subject like the cowardly half-entitled tit sucker he is. Sad to even think he was once a Marine.

10mm-man
09-03-2013, 20:30
He changed the subject like the cowardly half-entitled tit sucker he is. Sad to even think he was once a Marine. [Hang][pileoshit](Were is the puke smiley)

DonnyCommo
09-03-2013, 21:36
Hickenlooper can suck a dick in prison. That is where he belongs.


Preach it brother! Not much more needs to be said about that asswipe they call a governor.

68Charger
09-03-2013, 22:06
This is my surprised face.
Quoted just because I LOVE your avatar!


What a spineless dick.
Really, would you want your dick to have a spine? it would reduce it's flexibility, and lead to embarrassing moments because it won't go floppy why you want it to...

[Hang][pileoshit](Were is the puke smiley)
did you mean "Where", or "We're"? I hope it's the former, [Puke][Puke]


Shocking, huh?

This is coming from the same party that believes bi-partisanship is agreeing with everything they want to do.

Who believes that those that were growing pot for profit when it was illegal will be following the laws and will be paying taxes now?

I'm going to steal that quote... the one about the same party that belives bi-partisanship is agreeing with everything THEY want to do (emphasis mine)


Y'all need to remember that these recalls are not because they passed gun laws. That is petty and childish. They are being recalled because they willfully ignored the people that elected them to represent them.
and this is quoted for TRUTH... I can tolerate somebody that disagrees with me, but when their %#@(**(#'ing JOB is to REPRE-FUCKING resent the people in their district, and they IGNORE them on %#@*(*('ing purpose to be bought and paid for by interests out of state... they deserve to be recalled, shamed, brought before their constituents and stoned (and not at a Hookah lounge).

Our system says they get less, but I'm just describing what they DESERVE.


I have nothing nice to say about Hickenlooper. Disgusting and Disgraceful. He literally makes me want to spit.
Spit doesn't describe it well enough... he's just a traitor, and deserves what traitors deserve.

Jeffrey Lebowski
09-03-2013, 22:21
In todays modern world with almost instant vote tracking and electronic voting I dont see why the people cant have more of a say in what happens in government.


JMHO, this goes down a dangerous road away from representative republicanism towards simple democracy or worse....

That said, something like the magazines, the energy policy, jessica's law, etc, really should've been put to referendums first.

Ah Pook
09-03-2013, 23:09
Sounds like he is following the official play book. Just like he has the entire term.

BPTactical
09-04-2013, 05:38
Sounds like he is doing just what his masters Bloomy and Biden are pulling his strings to do. Just like he has the entire term.

There, IFIFY

Gman
09-04-2013, 06:31
Hickenlooper has aspirations of national office. He'll lick whomever's boots he has to.

HoneyBadger
09-04-2013, 07:52
There is "possibly" a shining light at the end of the tunnel.

My family is a bunch of California liberal democrats. They are the people who moved here from California and have changed the political climate of this state for the worse.

I had a barbecue today and asked them how they feel about Hickenlooper. They all said he's a spineless coward and despite their hatred of Republicans they hate Hickenlooper so much they will either not vote or vote for a republican in the next election because they will not vote for Hickenlooper again. They also now hate Obama because they have come to the realization that he makes GW Bush look like an amazing leader.


[ROFL1]

HoneyBadger
09-04-2013, 08:02
There, IFIFY


So true Bert, so true. I keep encountering people on Facebook who don't want to recall Morse because it's "out of state interests, extremists, and the NRA who are trying to recall him". I ask them why they think Bloomberg just sent $350k to keep Morse in office, while the "out of state NRA extremists" have only spend a whopping $42k on the recall Why is Bloomberg spending so much money for some little recall election halfway across the country? What is really at stake here? Some people honestly think that bans on large sodas are not only a good thing, but also constitutional. Sometimes I feel like I don't want to live on this planet any more... [Shake]

BPTactical
09-04-2013, 08:18
I saw on Ch7 news this am where the NRA pumped a wad of cash to the recall efforts. I was gonna get pissed about biased media when the story came on and the gal also mentioned Bloomys $350K "gift" to their side as well.
Color me surprised.
I actually called their main switchboard and told the gal how refreshing it was to see both sides of a story relatively unbiased. I told her that we aren't stupid and know there are two sides to a story and how the Morse/Giron club is wrongly representing the reason for the recall. She had no idea what I meant and I explained it wasn't as much the finished product that has people so upset but the process involved. Ignored and belittled constituents don't far well.

Singlestack
09-04-2013, 10:53
Heard this morning on Peter Boyles show on 710 AM that a Los Angeles libturd millionaire has thrown $250K in addition to Bloomy's $350K to defeat the recall.

Boyles said the liberal $$ is being pushed here since a loss (i.e. successful recall) will severely hurt Bloomy's political future.

Gman
09-04-2013, 10:57
I saw on Ch7 news this am where the NRA pumped a wad of cash to the recall efforts. I was gonna get pissed about biased media when the story came on and the gal also mentioned Bloomys $350K "gift" to their side as well.
Color me surprised.
I've been watching the early morning news on 7 for a few months now after Fox 31 revealed their true colors. I've been pretty happy about their delivery of the news. Mostly just the facts without the leftist editorial comments. I also caught the piece on the NRA contribution and thought it was well balanced and to the point.

sellersm
09-04-2013, 10:58
All this funneling of $$$ just proves what some have been saying all along: CO is the new 'proving ground'! HELLO! America? Are you watching? This show will be coming to your state next.

Squeeze
09-04-2013, 15:32
Visiting the family in Wisconsin over the long weekend, and while they're all Repubs or flipped repub after Obama's mess (or not admitting otherwise), my brother says, "sensible limits.." and "if you need more than 15 rounds..." I told him first what a stupid fucktard he was, that it was not about hunting, and asked him how my wife could conceivably defend herself against multiple attackers with "only" 15 rounds in her AR-15? I also asked him how many criminals he thought would obey the "sensible" gun laws. He changed the subject like the cowardly half-entitled tit sucker he is. Sad to even think he was once a Marine.

Right on brother. Wish I could've been there for that conversation. One of the points I like to make when a Libtard starts in with the whole "sensible gun laws" BS is asking them if they know which magazines LE have for their firearms. I then follow it up with, why should I be less-equipped to protect my family? Their family is just important as mine and why should I be restricted when they're not?