Dealing with a noisy neighbor

[jhirsh5280]

Want to get some thoughts before I take any action.
I have a neighbor who is causing a lot of stress with my family right now. I have 2 boys (4 and 2) who are typical hyper full of energy kids. My wife is a stay at home mom and I usually dont head to work until the afternoons so we are around in the mornings. We also live in a townhome with shared walls. When my boys run around, play, laugh, scream, typical boy things we feel the instant need to correct or curb their behavior because we fear our neighbor will turn up his music and rattle our walls with bass out of spite for my kids. He has even gone as far as accusing us a abusing our kids (which we would never) without any proof other than noise. Our kids noises dont last but a few seconds or minutes, but when he fires up the bass it can last anywhere from 45 minutes to 2 hours. He claims he works from home as well, he's either a day trader or a pot dealer, not quite sure which at this point. All communication attempts fall on deaf ears, from texts to phone calls to knocks on the door. My neighbors on the other side dont ever complain about our noise levels and the neighbors on his other side can hear the same things we do. Ive thought about writing a letter to our HOA but I feel like they wont do anything and Im two seconds away from just calling the cops but dont really want to waste their time on a noise complaint. We cant afford to move at this very moment but honestly think about taking a loss on the house and renting just so we can get away and let our kids be kids. Believe me Ive thought about just pounding on the walls or getting some kind of revenge but my wife keeps advising against it because she doesnt want to give him any kind of leverage. Anyone have any similar experiences or advice?
Thanks!

[davsel]

Soundproof your adjoining wall(s).
http://www.soundproofingcompany.com/soundproofing-solutions/soundproofing-walls/

Let you neighbor know you are doing it in order to reduce the noise level he is subjected to. He will probably appreciate the effort and be less likely to complain about any future noise.

[Wulf202]

Ignore him. If he turns up his bass look up your cities noise complaint laws and if he's breaking them call him in. Otherwise keep ignoring it.

I've got lots of noise stories.

[Firehaus]

Call the police every time for documentation, then approach the HOA.

[Sawin]

Complain to the HOA that the walls were insufficiently sound-proofed. Get your noisy neighbor and the one on his opposite side to do the same.... get the whole neighborhood to have a more general conversation about the shotty walls and hopefully something can be done that way.

[pdr240]

Documentation and lots of it: times/duration of noise, attempts to reconcile face to face.
Have video of any f-t-f dealings and sound recordings from inside your home if possible.
Many Police Departments have a 'community relations offier' so as not to waste the patrol officers time.
Also document any interactions with the HOA - they should care about this.
I know it can be counter-productive to have to keep logs and stuff, kinda makes it worse to deal with.
Had a situation with a neighbors barking basset, sad to say I ended up moving, it can be very detrimental to quality of life.
Hope this helps a bit - God Luck!

[funkymonkey1111]

Or maybe keep your kids quiet? Ever think of that?

[Justin]

A Google search for HERF devices might be fruitful...

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[Sawin]

Kill him with kindness. Buy your neighbor a nice set of sound proofing headphones as a peace offering if you can't keep the kids to normal kid levels?

[newracer]

Contact the HOA and the police. All else fails move.

[Whistler]

Nature of living in a shared environment. You expect others to tolerate your "typical" noises but have little tolerance for theirs? Having kids doesn't give you a pass, learn to coexist or find a place that better suits your mindset.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Or maybe keep your kids quiet? Ever think of that?

Well someone had to say it....

Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Or maybe keep your kids quiet? Ever think of that?

Yes you're right, a 2 year old and a 4 year old boy should be kept in check. No noise, no playing, nothing but contemplative study of War and Peace and the WSJ.

You're an ass.


Nature of living in a shared environment. You expect others to tolerate your "typical" noises but have little tolerance for theirs? Having kids doesn't give you a pass, learn to coexist or find a place that better suits your mindset.

You are also an ass. How would you like me to move in next door to you and play music so loud that the bass shook your walls for hours on end?

Geez people, do you guys really hate kids THAT much that you're advice is "Shut your stupid kids up or move the hell away?" I mean damn...these are LITLLE BOYS. Little boys make noise sometimes. The OP even says when they start to make noise...they TRY AND CORRECT IT IMMEDIATELY SO AS TO NOT BOTHER THE NEIGHBORS. The OP sounds like he's doing his job...and he has a neighbor that seems extremely similar to you two.

Makes me blood boil...

[Monky]

You're coming to the net for advice. You're going to get it all... When I was in an apt I'd turn up the tv as to not hear my neighbors kids... Maybe it's his choice.

If it bothers you call the cops. You're not going to work out a peaceful solution till he gets a notice... Then continue to do it. Then contact the hoa


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Yes you're right, a 2 year old and a 4 year old boy should be kept in check. No noise, no playing, nothing but contemplative study of War and Peace and the WSJ.

You're an ass.



You are also an ass. How would you like me to move in next door to you and play music so loud that the bass shook your walls for hours on end?

Geez people, do you guys really hate kids THAT much that you're advice is "Shut your stupid kids up or move the hell away?" I mean damn...these are LITLLE BOYS. Little boys make noise sometimes. The OP even says when they start to make noise...they TRY AND CORRECT IT IMMEDIATELY SO AS TO NOT BOTHER THE NEIGHBORS. The OP sounds like he's doing his job...and he has a neighbor that seems extremely similar to you two.

Makes me blood boil...

And my music happens to make noise.... that's what music does.

Kids don't get a free pass on the noise thing. Neither do animals.

Nature of the beast. Deal with it.

Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.

[PugnacAutMortem]

And my music happens to make noise.... that's what music does.

Kids don't get a free pass on the noise thing. Neither do animals.

Nature of the beast. Deal with it.

Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.

Never said kids did. So you think 45 minutes to 2 hours of music with wall shaking bass is fair to do in exchange for a minute or two of children laughing and playing loudly?

[generalmeow]

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[flyingcouch]

Never said kids did. So you think 45 minutes to 2 hours of music with wall shaking bass is fair to do in exchange for a minute or two of children laughing and playing loudly?

Neighbors and parents have different definitions of "loud" kids. I would bet, if you ask the neighbor, that the kids are constantly loud when they are home and I sometimes I have to play my music for a little bit so I don't hear them.

[funkymonkey1111]

Yes you're right, il...

Glad you acknowledge it. You want your kids to act like shits, move somewhere they don't impose on their neighbors. If the kids weren't making noise, I suppose the neighbor wouldn't turn his music up. Pretty simple cause and effect.

[wreave]

Start documenting it. That's the most important thing for whatever your next step is.

Turn on the video camera preferably. Show how loud it is. Show you going over and knocking on the door and him not answering. Let it run, make sure you show a clock from time to time to document the time - preferably a cell phone clock (not that they can't be changed, but are far more likely to be accepted as accurate).

Get recordings of multiple instances. Dates, times, all recorded.

AFTER you have at least two, preferably three incidents recorded, you can either go to the HOA, and/or go to the cops, and/or come back here with the data for another pass through groupthink to get a second opinion. But no matter what, start by getting it recorded. Otherwise it's your word against his.

[PugnacAutMortem]

Glad you acknowledge it. You want your kids to act like shits, move somewhere they don't impose on their neighbors. If the kids weren't making noise, I suppose the neighbor wouldn't turn his music up. Pretty simple cause and effect.

I would bet a whole bunch of dollars your definition of kids acting like shits is WAY off base. I can guarantee that you don't have any little kids of your own, let alone a little boy. It's asshats like you who can't tell the difference between kids being little shits and them just being little kids. Now don't get me wrong, all little boys are little shits sometimes (my boy included). But when people like you start categorizing kids playing as them being little shits, that's where you become completely wrong. Frankly, your opinion on any kid related matters is going to be inaccurate, uninformed, and pretty much flat out stupid, and you should keep said opinions to yourself.

[jhirsh5280]

Thanks for all the advice, both positive and negative. We have documented many cases but recording the sounds doesnt come through on camera because its such a low vibration. Ive written a notice to my HOA formally filing a complaint and Ive asked several board members about what they can do and they just say call the cops. Ive tried to be diplomatic about it but I guess its time for the kid gloves to come off.

To those who say just shut up my kids, I openly invite you over to my house to see how well that works. You have to remember, little kids have lots of energy and strong impulses that includes screaming, crying, laughing and yelling...you all have done it before just ask your moms.

[Squeeze]

Glad you acknowledge it. You want your kids to act like shits, move somewhere they don't impose on their neighbors. If the kids weren't making noise, I suppose the neighbor wouldn't turn his music up. Pretty simple cause and effect.

Just wow... sad to see people like this are on the forum. I know the OP asked for "advice" on how to deal with the problem, BUT he did not ask for his children to be called foul names and for the record...NO, blaring loud music does not equal the noise caused by children. I've been the "other" neighbor where people's children were just being children. They are sometimes loud and sometimes parents don't care which causes it to get a bit excessive. I've taken the responsible route and spoke with the parents who were actually quite nice about it - problem solved-. As I didn't expect the noise to come to a complete halt, I understood it is important to let kids be kids. I'm sure the OP and his wife have talked about making an effort to help curb any issues on their end. If people like you can't be respectful when referring to children, I hope pancreatic cancer finds you rather swiftly. That also goes for anyone else badmouthing fellow forum member's children.

[funkymonkey1111]

your opinion on any kid related matters is going to be inaccurate, incorrect, and pretty much flat out stupid, and you should keep said opinions to yourself.

Perhaps you should take your own advice, especially since you don't know the level of noise the kids create or what the other guys hears. Likewsie I'm sure you don't know the level of noise your own kid creates on a plane, in a restaurant, or anywhere else in public, too, since you likely suffer from breeder deafness (as a nice complement to your blindness to cause and effect). So no, I don't think I'll keep my opinions to myself.

[clublights]

I'm not a kid hater .. really I'm not ....


But any noise out of a kid your not related to .. is annoying. ( unless it is a 1 and under's laugh... who can't smile at that?)

I'm just sayin.....

[funkymonkey1111]

Just wow... sad to see people like this are on the forum. I know the OP asked for "advice" on how to deal with the problem, BUT he did not ask for his children to be called foul names and for the record...NO, blaring loud music does not equal the noise caused by children. I've been the "other" neighbor where people's children were just being children. They are sometimes loud and sometimes parents don't care which causes it to get a bit excessive. I've taken the responsible route and spoke with the parents who were actually quite nice about it - problem solved-. As I didn't expect the noise to come to a complete halt, I understood it is important to let kids be kids. I'm sure the OP and his wife have talked about making an effort to help curb any issues on their end. If people like you can't be respectful when referring to children, I hope pancreatic cancer finds you rather swiftly. That also goes for anyone else badmouthing fellow forum member's children.

Equally sad to see folks like you that simply couldn't care less how much noise is made when "sometimes parents don't care which causes it to get a bit excessive." You sound a bit like a helicopter parent that simply could not ever consider the fact that not everybody wants to hear loud children or that their kids could do no wrong. OP has clearly shown who is in control of the situation with the statement "To those who say just shut up my kids, I openly invite you over to my house to see how well that works. You have to remember, little kids have lots of energy and strong impulses that includes screaming, crying, laughing and yelling..."

[Special Ed]

If people like you can't be respectful when referring to children, I hope pancreatic cancer finds you rather swiftly. That also goes for anyone else badmouthing fellow forum member's children.

Soooo....it's OK to wish pancreatic cancer on a person but not ok to call kids "little shits?" Simply amazing.

[mtnhack]

We have a family about 60 yards down the street with at least 2 children who are permanent residents and then he has 3 more from previous hook-ups that will show up for days on end. These kids (brats? Maybe.) are the loudest noise polluters for miles around. They make it nearly unbearable to hang outside during the summer evenings. It is a quiet neighborhood save for the screaming. The parents are right there with them, but are completely oblivious to the noise level they produce. It is beyond annoying, but it is not illegal, just rude.



I wish they would rent elsewhere so the rest of us home owners could enjoy the neighborhood peace and quiet like we did before they moved in. However, I would not ever blame the kids as they are just doing whatever their parents let them do. Typical parenting of these days; never say no, never discipline, let the kids decide what they do, or eat, or say. My kids are angels no matter what, and you're the asshole.


I would say to the OP, deal with it unless the neighbor is breaking a law. Make friends with him if at all possible, because he will likely put up with more of your shit, while subjecting you to less of his.

[hatidua]

[Pop]

[Squeeze]

Soooo....it's OK to wish pancreatic cancer on a person but not ok to call kids "little shits?" Simply amazing.

Yep. I have no room for people who have no respect for other people's chldren. Also, let me add, children will act out and be disruptive as long as the parents allow it...whether they care or not. The issue is with the parent, not the children, so take up the gripe with the responsible party.

[funkymonkey1111]

Yep. I have no room for people who have no respect for other people's chldren. Also, let me add, children will act out and be disruptive as long as the parents allow it...whether they care or not. The issue is with the parent, not the children, so take up the gripe with the responsible party.

Boy, that one's going to keep me up at night. I mean, I come on here and expect everyone to like me and now this happens. I just don't know what I'll do if this guy isn't my friend.

[Special Ed]

Boy, that one's going to keep me up at night. I mean, I come on here and expect everyone to like me and now this happens. I just don't know what I'll do if this guy isn't my friend.

[ROFL3]

[ray1970]

I say sell the children and use the proceeds to hire a hit man to whack the neighbor.

[Great-Kazoo]

I say sell the children and use the proceeds to hire a hit man to whack the neighbor.

Very soft market for kids these days. 2-3 years ago you could off them to anyone for good market value. Now. they could be in shopping carts left in walmart for days and no one would give them a second look.

[Special Ed]

Yep. I have no room for people who have no respect for other people's chldren. Also, let me add, children will act out and be disruptive as long as the parents allow it...whether they care or not. The issue is with the parent, not the children, so take up the gripe with the responsible party.

So apparently we've just learned that funkymonkey is not some other person's child because otherwise you would be saying that you have no respect for yourself and have also, by your own words, wished pancreatic cancer upon yourself. I can't believe you'd wish cancer on yourself after you've shown so much concern for others here today.

[DingleBerns]

The police department will do nothing to help your ongoing problem besides responding to your/his noise complaints, you need to go to your HOA.

[hurley842002]

In an effort to avoid personal attacks over an issue I hold dear to my heart (children), I'll leave this comment.

It's apparent there are several members with a genuine dislike, possibly even hatred for children. Maybe they were born that way, maybe it's because no woman will let them impregnate them, who knows. I don't like kids who are bratty any more than the next guy, but there is a big difference in bratty kids, and kids just being kids. Some of you have even gone as far to state you dislike anything coming out of childrens mouths or something to that effect. Simply amazing!

[Special Ed]

Oh yeah...on topic.....

I think this boils down to respect. Your neighbor believes you (your kids) are showing him a lack of respect for making what he considers to be excessive noise. He therefore returns the perceived disrespect by showing you the same lack of respect. I think that the HOA and police are only going to make things worse. He may stop after being admonished by one or the other (or both) but the seed of anger will likely only germinate and sprout stronger than ever (hopefully still non-violently).

The only way to fix this is to restore the sense of respect on both sides of the wall. Sure, it's easier said than done but once accomplished, it'll have longer lasting effects, and positive ones at that. Perhaps a 6-pack of whatever on his porch with a note requesting a conversation at a neutral location so you can try to work through it will get the ball rolling.

[Ah Pook]

The PMS is high today.

[Squeeze]

In an effort to avoid personal attacks over an issue I hold dear to my heart (children), I'll leave this comment.

It's apparent there are several members with a genuine dislike, possibly even hatred for children. Maybe they were born that way, maybe it's because no woman will let them impregnate them, who knows. I don't like kids who are bratty any more than the next guy, but there is a big difference in bratty kids, and kids just being kids. Some of you have even gone as far to state you dislike anything coming out of childrens mouths or something to that effect. Simply amazing!

Agreed.

[funkymonkey1111]

In an effort to avoid personal attacks over an issue I hold dear to my heart (children), I'll leave this comment.

It's apparent there are several members with a genuine dislike, possibly even hatred for children. Maybe they were born that way, maybe it's because no woman will let them impregnate them, who knows. I don't like kids who are bratty any more than the next guy, but there is a big difference in bratty kids, and kids just being kids. Some of you have even gone as far to state you dislike anything coming out of childrens mouths or something to that effect. Simply amazing!

Not one person in this thread has brought up hate other than those defending the children's perspective. Isn't that telling--any question--any position at all that the kids' noise might be off-putting to someone else is reacted to with this sort of vitriol--sorta the way the hysterical anti-gunners react to things.

[hatidua]

The entertainment factor is high today.

modified it for you [Beer]

[Colorado_Outback]

since you likely suffer from breeder deafness


LOL. Wow..

[Gman]

I never liked sharing walls/ceilings/floors....

[<MADDOG>]

Its conversations like these that make me truly appreciate this forum and the wide diversity of the personalities on it!

Myself: I would live under a box under a bridge before I lived in another apartment.

[hurley842002]

Not one person in this thread has brought up hate other than those defending the children's perspective.

Hence the word possibly....

[cofi]

Man I would hate raising my 3 year old in a townhouse were on 50 acres and I feel like even that's too tight of a space

[hurley842002]

Myself: I would live under a box under a bridge before I lived in another apartment.

Agreed, I'm in one now and hoping to get in a house soon!

[asmo]

Just because you forgot to use birth control doesn't mean the rest of the world has to be punished for it. Seriously, little noises here and there are to be tolerated - but anything more than an occasional yell or scream is too damn much. Inside voice vs. outside voice. Read "Special Eds" comment over and over again until you get it.

Now to cut off the peanut gallery. Yes, I am an ass. No, I don't hate kids. In fact I love kids so much that I feel it is important that they learn respect for others, what is right from wrong, and when to be loud and when to be quiet. It will serve them well as they mature and go out into the real world -- where they don't get trophy's just for showing up./

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Never said kids did. So you think 45 minutes to 2 hours of music with wall shaking bass is fair to do in exchange for a minute or two of children laughing and playing loudly?

Some people just do noise better...

It's like war.... You bomb me, I nuke you. War over.

Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.

[cofi]

Just because you forgot to use birth control doesn't mean the rest of the world has to be punished for it. Seriously, little noises here and there are to be tolerated - but anything more than an occasional yell or scream is too damn much. Inside voice vs. outside voice. Read "Special Eds" comment over and over again until you get it.

Now to cut off the peanut gallery. Yes, I am an ass. No, I don't hate kids. In fact I love kids so much that I feel it is important that they learn respect for others, what is right from wrong, and when to be loud and when to be quiet. It will serve them well as they mature and go out into the real world -- where they don't get trophy's just for showing up./
You must not have a lot of kid experience if you think it's easy....or even remotely possible to contain the squeals and screams of a kid under 5

[Holger Danske]

To the OP, get your kids a tuba and a drum set. Start up family band. Fight fire with fire.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

For what it's worth... I love kids... But only if they're not mine. That way I have no responsibility over them or their actions. Kids amuse the hell out of me. Especially the little ones.

My comments about noisy kids were more for the fun factor than actual advice... I have since PM'd the OP with an actual list of advice.

And said sorry for stirring the pot in his thread....

[sorry]





But I still think noise warfare is the way to go.....


[Poke][Pot]

[asmo]

And said sorry for stirring the pot in his thread....

[sorry]


Wuss..

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Wuss..
You're damn right. Do you know how bad a ban hammer hurts? I know how bad....













I liked it so much I took it 3 times.





[Flower]

[Irving]

Not everyone handles noise the same.

[beast556]

A few of you guys are real pricks.

To the OP The only way you are ever going to solve this issue is to move or the nehibor moves and hope the new person that moves in is better. I have personaly had this issue before and the HOA will be no help and the police you dont want to go down that road. Save every cent and try to buy or rent a house.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

Not everyone handles noise the same.
I handle noise with more noise.... And my music has more bass than your kids do...... [Coffee]

[Holger Danske]

JM, r u the noisy neighbor?

[Squeeze]

I handle noise with more noise.... And my music has more bass than your kids do...... [Coffee]

[ROFL1] Rock on JM.

[hurley842002]

You're damn right. Do you know how bad a ban hammer hurts? I know how bad....













I liked it so much I took it 3 times.





[Flower]

And that is why I've kept my comments to myself, I kinda like it around here.

For the record tho, my son was planned....

[Skully]

Not everyone handles noise the same.

Reading this horrible vindictive thread on the first 3-4 pages was sad........................ but good point Irving.

There are those that have never been parents /yet, who sit back and say; "I hope my kids wont be like that some day ,friggin brats." (this is the part that will cursed them guaranteed.) Sometime you dont truly understand unless you ARE a parent.

Kids as soon as they start talking to 7 or 8 years old will be noisy period, specially boys.

As parents you constantly stress to keep the noise level down. Not once, not twice, times it by hundreds of times throughout a week. They will learn, but it takes time. My boys have gotten much better at not being so loud in doors.

I live in an apartment now since Nov last year. We went to our neighbors when we first moved in and broke the ice and ask them to lets us know if they are too loud so we know. Worked like a charm, specially since my boys have earned the nickname of "little Terrorists" for a reason. We have had not one complaint, even followed up with them. We are lucky though sounds like the OP is not, a neighbor who does not have/like kids.

The original post didn't sound like they were rowdy for hours on end. kids do no resonate low frequency noise that vibrates through the floors and the walls. Sounds like his neighbor is just being an ass, unwilling to communicate. As everyone said, document, continue to try and communicate. If other neighbors hear it to get them involved, more than one against is better than he said she said. Not easy to just go find another house to rent. Think there is no easy solutions.

Maybe the link about the sound dampening the shared wall will work. Might be cheaper than moving. [Coffee]

[PugnacAutMortem]

Perhaps you should take your own advice, especially since you don't know the level of noise the kids create or what the other guys hears. Likewsie I'm sure you don't know the level of noise your own kid creates on a plane, in a restaurant, or anywhere else in public, too, since you likely suffer from breeder deafness (as a nice complement to your blindness to cause and effect). So no, I don't think I'll keep my opinions to myself.

I actually am very aware of the noise my boy makes. I am also very aware of people who have no tolerance for children in any capacity (i.e. you). It doesn't matter if my boy is shrieking at the top of his lungs, or if he's quietly talking to me about something he sees...my boy is going to annoy you. Is that my problem? Nope. If he's being too loud, I will handle it. If his mere presence annoys you...then I guess that's just some shit you're going to have to deal with on your own.

And you don't have to keep your opinions to yourself...that was merely a suggestion. It still doesn't mean that your opinions on children aren't just plain stupid though [Coffee]

[Irving]

OP you must also consider how you are perceiving the noise that you hear. It is very clear that this issue is beyond the noise, and likely both neighbors are so sensitive to anything produced by the other, that what would have been a normal/acceptable noise level before this all started, is probably infuriating now.

Sit down and actually ask yourself f being able to hear the bass is an issue because hearing it bothers you, or because you perceive it as a sleight? I remember being bothered by a basketball being dribbled 100 yards away across the street. Sounds ridiculous, but it was 2am on a Wednesday and while I was laying there trying to sleep it was all I could hear. Each bounce sounded louder and louder in my head as I became more angry.

Same thing with my neighbors drinking outside at 11pm the other night. I love having neighbors that aren't total trash for once, but it was a Monday night and I could hear them over our fan. I went outside and confronted them. They shriveled up like cowards and pretended the guy in the next yard, shinning a spot light in their faces and asking how long they planned to be up screaming wasn't there. Now they think I am a dick. I've been meaning to go talk to them and explain I only cared because it was a week night and my kid was sleeping. I haven't gotten around to it.

Anyway, before you go running off to the police, try to consider the ACTUAL noise levels, and how it may be perceived by each side. If you leave each other alone for long enough, you'll both probably grow numb and forget why you were upset in the first place. That is unless one, or both, of you can't see the situation for what it is and continues to be a passive aggressive dickhole.

Good luck.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

JM, r u the noisy neighbor?
No sir... I live in a detached house.

[ROFL1] Rock on JM.
Oh believe me, I am...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENjxq0oQCFc

And that is why I've kept my comments to myself, I kinda like it around here.

For the record tho, my son was planned....
Come on now... A little ban never hurt anyone...

[Whistler]

Yes you're right, a 2 year old and a 4 year old boy should be kept in check. No noise, no playing, nothing but contemplative study of War and Peace and the WSJ.

You're an ass.



You are also an ass. How would you like me to move in next door to you and play music so loud that the bass shook your walls for hours on end?

Geez people, do you guys really hate kids THAT much that you're advice is "Shut your stupid kids up or move the hell away?" I mean damn...these are LITLLE BOYS. Little boys make noise sometimes. The OP even says when they start to make noise...they TRY AND CORRECT IT IMMEDIATELY SO AS TO NOT BOTHER THE NEIGHBORS. The OP sounds like he's doing his job...and he has a neighbor that seems extremely similar to you two.

Makes me blood boil...

Nailed it I'm definitely an ass but your clueless indignation touches me so I'll take a moment to explain;

I didn't say a word about not liking kids or shutting them up, what I said was it's the nature of living in a shared environment. The OP didn't say he was rocking the block @ 2am, he's listening to his stereo for "up to" a couple hours in the middle of the day is what I gleaned from the OP. Bass tends to be omni-directional and low frequencies carry better than higher ones. It's possible the man is simply listening to his music at a moderate volume and the acoustics of the construction setup a harmonic that causes the walls to rattle. Maybe the speakers are against the shared wall. It's entirely possible the "revenge" is only in the mind of the OP, he didn't indicate the neighbor had complained about his kids. I did say having kids doesn't give you a pass - they make noise, he makes noise... they share a wall, it happens and people living in that environment need to learn to coexist or find a place that suits them better. Whining and blaming the other guy because you think his noise is worse than your noise is petty. Cops, document, record, HOA... jeez! If it bothers you that much go talk to the man. Boil away...

[Great-Kazoo]

No sir... I live in a detached house.

Oh believe me, I am...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENjxq0oQCFc

Come on now... A little ban never hurt anyone...

You still claiming it was a hammer used on you?

[th3w01f]

All I can say is WOW..... there is a lot of bitching and whining here when no one other than the OP has any idea what the situation actually is.

I say the OP should have a BBQ and several of us show up to actually judge the noise level; either that or the OP should borrow a 2000W sub and play a continual test tone about 15 hours a day. Either way sounds like fun to me.

[JM Ver. 2.0]

All I can say is WOW..... there is a lot of bitching and whining here when no one other than the OP has any idea what the situation actually is.

I say the OP should have a BBQ and several of us show up to actually judge the noise level; either that or the OP should borrow a 2000W sub and play a continual test tone about 15 hours a day. Either way sounds like fun to me.


No no no..... If you're gonna go to war with the guy you go to war the right way.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4

[th3w01f]

No no no..... If you're gonna go to war with the guy you go to war the right way.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4

LOL, I like where you're going but if he actually had some bass in his voice you could hear it in another room. Where's the techno dance remix?

[JM Ver. 2.0]

I already posted it up above.

[th3w01f]

In that case I'd have to go with the Geto Boys.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-7BlRc_a0

[TAR31]

Maybe some of you should look at this from the "noisy neighbors" perspective. Instead of him calling the police or complaining to the HOA he turns up his music... and he's the bad guy?

[tmleadr03]

My lord does this thread deliver. Soo much butt hurt.

[Gman]

My wife had a neighbor with loud speakers up against a bedroom wall in her condo. She spoke with the neighbor and they had no idea that the sound was passing through, but the speaker was up against the wall. They moved the speaker slightly forward and the noise wasn't an issue from that point forward. Are you sure that your neighbor is attempting to send noise your way, or might he just be trying to mask the sounds coming from your place?

[sniper7]

christ, a bunch of fucking whiners in here.

some of you are obviously not parents. You don't get it and you won't until you have kids. that is the absolute and down right fucking truth. you are the guys who mumble under your breath about the baby screaming on the airplane, maybe you say something to the guy next to you, but there isn't a damn thing that parent can do to make the kid happy.
kids make noises, lots of them. you can't silence them any more than you can silence a liberal spouting their mouth. push it too far and all of a sudden child services might be on your ass. there are fine lines as parents.

As to the OP, I would move. easiest way out. get to somewhere better where you don't have to worry about the kids being a little loud. At the younger ones age they have no concept of inside/outside voices and even if they do, they forget quickly, they get excited, they play, that's what kids do.
It sounds like the walls suck, the neighbor isn't a fan of kids and that is his reaction to their annoying noises, he makes his own annoying noises back.

There are major differences between other peoples kids' noises and your own. you tolerate your own blood a whole lot more than you do someone else. take that into consideration when you think they might be playing a little loud or if they really are being loud.

to the non-parents, your one and only opinion should be defending the guy on the other side of the wall. you don't get it.

[th3w01f]

Maybe some of you should look at this from the "noisy neighbors" perspective. Instead of him calling the police or complaining to the HOA he turns up his music... and he's the bad guy?

Fuck him, I'll take the word of someone I don't know on the forum over him any day. How would the forum be if we started assuming that anyone here that asks for advice is actually the one that's in the wrong?

[Monky]

I'm going back to watching porn.. this thread has become civilized.

[Irving]

I'm going back to watching porn.. this thread has become civilized.

As long as you keep it at a reasonable volume...

[th3w01f]

I'm going back to watching porn.. this thread has become civilized.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmuzEByLskY

[Squeeze]

christ, a bunch of fucking whiners in here.

some of you are obviously not parents. You don't get it and you won't until you have kids. that is the absolute and down right fucking truth. you are the guys who mumble under your breath about the baby screaming on the airplane, maybe you say something to the guy next to you, but there isn't a damn thing that parent can do to make the kid happy.
kids make noises, lots of them. you can't silence them any more than you can silence a liberal spouting their mouth. push it too far and all of a sudden child services might be on your ass. there are fine lines as parents.

As to the OP, I would move. easiest way out. get to somewhere better where you don't have to worry about the kids being a little loud. At the younger ones age they have no concept of inside/outside voices and even if they do, they forget quickly, they get excited, they play, that's what kids do.
It sounds like the walls suck, the neighbor isn't a fan of kids and that is his reaction to their annoying noises, he makes his own annoying noises back.

There are major differences between other peoples kids' noises and your own. you tolerate your own blood a whole lot more than you do someone else. take that into consideration when you think they might be playing a little loud or if they really are being loud.

to the non-parents, your one and only opinion should be defending the guy on the other side of the wall. you don't get it.

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i445/TangoDownPro/AwesomeApplaud_zps285a16ff.gif (http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/TangoDownPro/media/AwesomeApplaud_zps285a16ff.gif.html)

[cofi]

As long as you keep it at a reasonable volume...


OCONOMOWOC, Wis. — A man said he broke into an apartment with a cavalry sword because he thought he heard a woman being raped, but the sound actually was from a pornographic movie his upstairs neighbor was watching.

“Now I feel stupid,” said James Van Iveren, who has been charged in the case. “This really is nothing, nothing but a mistake.”

According to a criminal complaint, the neighbor told police that Van Iveren pounded on the door and kicked it open without warning Feb. 12, damaging the frame and lock.


“Where is she?” Van Iveren demanded, thrusting the sword at the neighbor, the complaint said. “Where is she?”

The neighbor told police Van Iveren became increasingly aggressive as he repeated the question, insisting that he had heard a woman being raped. The complaint said that, with the sword pointed at him, the neighbor led Van Iveren throughout the apartment, opening closet doors to prove he was alone.

The neighbor later played for police the part of the DVD he believed Van Iveren heard downstairs.

Van Iveren, 39, of Oconomowoc, was charged with criminal trespass, criminal damage and disorderly conduct, all while using a dangerous weapon, and is due in court March 5. Together, the misdemeanor counts carry a maximum sentence of 33 months in jail.

Van Iveren said Tuesday that he heard a woman “screaming for help,” grabbed the sword, bounded up the stairs, kicked in the apartment door and confronted the man who lived there.

“I intended to hold it behind my back and knock. But I froze and instead, what happened happened,” he told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Contesting his neighbor’s account, Van Iveren said he didn’t look anywhere in the apartment except the front room, and that he never threatened the neighbor with the sword.

“I had the sword extended. But that was all,” he said.

Van Iveren, who lives with his mother in the downstairs apartment, said he did not call police when he heard the noises because he does not have a telephone. He said he barely knew the upstairs tenant.

Police seized Van Iveren’s sword, which he said was a family heirloom

[jhirsh5280]

Love how this has evolved into porn.

There are some very valid points from all angles here. Those who have kids definitely understand where Im coming from and those without kids dont. I can understand that I have to look at it from his perspective and from what Ive heard from board members who have sat down with him and talked, he thinks I let my kids run around the house and kick the baseboards just to annoy him. Without ever being in my house you'll have to take my word but its impossible to even touch the baseboards against his our ajoining walls and 2) what parent would honestly just let their kids kick the walls? Not me. Maybe I didnt convey it properly but I think the basis for his noise is out of spite and retaliation. Ive tried to extend the olive branch, he hasnt. Ive taken note of some very good ideas contained in this thread, including going back to watching porn. I had no idea it would cause such a discussion, but Im glad I got opinions from both the understanding and the assholes (said in the most respectful way possible).

...back to your regularly scheduled rants and raves

[jslo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j8xcBmj1sn8

[BlasterBob]

Wow, we have been just tossing the idea of a town house or condo when we finally move but these posts are a grim reminder of what CAN happen when folks have a common wall, floor or ceiling. The older I get, the much less tolerant I am of things that bug me like abrasive noises.
We raised three great kids and they were NEVER loud and rambunctious and NEVER annoyed others. That was the "old school way" of dealing with our youngsters. When I was a kid ( LONG) time ago, we were frequently reminded of the old saying, "kids should be seen and not heard". Another old saying was ,"Respect your elders". Hey, it worked for us! ..
Now, I just hope I get some respect from most of my "juniors" here.[blaster]
[LOL]

[Irving]

Ariel Castro never would have had this problem....

[Squeeze]

Wow, we have been just tossing the idea of a town house or condo when we finally move but these posts are a grim reminder of what CAN happen when folks have a common wall, floor or ceiling. The older I get, the much less tolerant I am of things that bug me like abrasive noises.
We raised three great kids and they were NEVER loud and rambunctious and NEVER annoyed others. That was the "old school way" of dealing with our youngsters. When I was a kid ( LONG) time ago, we were frequently reminded of the old saying, "kids should be seen and not heard". Another old saying was ,"Respect your elders". Hey, it worked for us! ..
Now, I just hope I get some respect from most of my "juniors" here.[blaster]
[LOL]

I remember my mom, dad, grandpa, grandma, etc. telling us kids that saying more than once. It worked too. We got the message by the "look" we got. It really is sad seeing the way a lot of parents are now. Many of them seem to enjoy practicing the reproduction process, but don't care for the end result after 9 months. Anymore it's just babies having babies. After going through the drama, anger and disgust this thread pulled out of me...I figure I'm better off to say, "F - it" and just grab a bowl of popcorn and watch everything fall to shit around me. Haven't been this PO'd in a long damn time. Drains the soul I tell ya.

[BlasterBob]

I remember my mom, dad, grandpa, grandma, etc. telling us kids that saying more than once. It worked too. We got the message by the "look" we got..

We raised three kids and was damn rare that we ever had to lay a hand on them (paddle their butts). They knew what was expected of them and as Squeeze indicated, the "look" was enough to let them know that they should "cool it" NOW. These kids of ours ( now ages 49, 46 and 41) NEVER gave us any grief, no trouble with the law, not drinkers, smokers or dopers and are totally responsible adults. Guess we did something right in raising them the old fashion way. I am NOT bragging, just telling like really it is/was.[blaster]

[BigDee]

All of you kid haters should come spend an afternoon at my place. I've got a 4 year old boy, a 9 month old infant and a 2 year old Rotty. They can make a LOT of noise when they get going. I don't do anything to stop the noise because they are just being themselves and enjoying themselves in the process.

[Madeinhb]

He can't complain about the noise of kids being kids. If he doesn't want to deal with kids, he should move to a condo or such where kids aren't allowed.

[Irving]

I don't know how many times we've yelled at our 6 year-old about holding her face over her food so she isn't getting it every where. It's like every bite has to be one of those balance-an-egg-in-a-small-spoon-long-distance challenges. Hold your face over the bowl!

[Irving]

He can't complain about the noise of kids being kids. If he doesn't want to deal with kids, he should move to a condo or such where kids aren't allowed.

Yeah, like the ISS.

[MrPrena]

I have a kid as well, but they can be noisy.

I would rather deal with kid's party next door than a noisy neighbor who talks
"Yeah FOO!"
"Hellz No Fers!"
"WOO HAHAHAHAHAH"

at 11:30pm back yard.

[ZERO THEORY]

http://www.miscupload.com/upload/500597671062111144309638.gif

[PSS]

get an electronic game caller, crank up the volume and blast him at 1 am with moose calls. Repeat every time he plays his music loud. Escalation, bitch!

[Drucker]

My wife had a neighbor with loud speakers up against a bedroom wall in her condo. She spoke with the neighbor and they had no idea that the sound was passing through, but the speaker was up against the wall. They moved the speaker slightly forward and the noise wasn't an issue from that point forward. Are you sure that your neighbor is attempting to send noise your way, or might he just be trying to mask the sounds coming from your place? <S> Most constructive post in the thread.