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brokenscout
09-09-2013, 16:36
Is there really a limit before they have to contact the ATF?

Zundfolge
09-09-2013, 16:39
If you buy two or more handguns within 5 days from a dealer there's a special form you have to fill out (http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-3310-4.pdf). Assuming since all sales are through an FFL now, if you buy more than one at a time from a private seller you'll have to fill it out too.

brokenscout
09-09-2013, 16:41
So if you go to different FFL's? Would it matter.

Zundfolge
09-09-2013, 16:42
So if you go to different FFL's? Would it matter.

Different FFLs and I don't believe you'd be required to report (its a requirement for the FFL, not you).

Not sure I'd be comfortable with the ATF ever finding out about it though and since everything goes through an FFL now I would try to put at least 5 days between purchases if possible.

brokenscout
09-09-2013, 16:54
Thank you

Great-Kazoo
09-09-2013, 18:00
Different FFLs and I don't believe you'd be required to report (its a requirement for the FFL, not you).

Not sure I'd be comfortable with the ATF ever finding out about it though and since everything goes through an FFL now I would try to put at least 5 days between purchases if possible.

You will be flagged going to different FFL's. That hand gun , Long gun , other is kept on file. Been there, done that ;)

BPTactical
09-09-2013, 18:00
Not so fast.
The FFL's conducting the BGC advise CBI of type of firearm purchased i.e. Long gun, hand gun or other. The system will catch it and the dealer that conducted the second transfer wee contacted by the ATF. I know of 2 regular customers of an establishment I used to work at that had it happen. Both had viable reasons, one guy was traveling and found a deal he couldn't pass up and the other had a Gunbroker deal get sent before he expected it.

Great-Kazoo
09-09-2013, 18:02
Not so fast.
The FFL's conducting the BGC advise CBI of type of firearm purchased i.e. Long gun, hand gun or other. The system will catch it and you can expect to be contacted the ATF. I know of 2 regular customers of an establishment I used to work at that had it happen.

typed less be first:) The idea CBI will not "catch you" because you purchase from different dealers is false and not to be taken as the right answer.

10mm-man
09-09-2013, 19:14
nevermind

Jeffrey Lebowski
09-09-2013, 20:30
FWIW, thanks for the info, all. [Beer]
I had it incorrectly in my mind that the window was 30 days, not 5.

BPTactical
09-09-2013, 20:44
FWIW, thanks for the info, all. [Beer]
I had it incorrectly in my mind that the window was 30 days, not 5.

Now you can buy 6 in an average month!

Jeffrey Lebowski
09-09-2013, 20:48
[Dinner] Where do I begin?!?
In seriousness, I should have asked - but it did recently cause me to wait on something I just wanted on a whim. Good to know!

brokenscout
09-09-2013, 21:53
$60 instead of $10:) What can they do if you buy 3 at a time?
Now you can buy 6 in an average month!

Mazin
09-09-2013, 21:55
Gunz R Bad

Circuits
09-09-2013, 21:58
If you buy two or more handguns within 5 days from a dealer there's a special form you have to fill out (http://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-3310-4.pdf).

The FFL is required to fill out and submit the multiple handgun sale report form, not the purchaser.

Bailey Guns
09-09-2013, 22:19
Never really cared, nor worried, about a dealer filling out the multiple handgun form if I bought more than one handgun. Rarely did the ATF contact me over one I did as a dealer, either...even with far more than 2 handguns reported. The only time they contacted me over a multiple sale was when I forgot something on the form...the date or something like that.

I've also bought 3 handguns in one day from different dealers. No one from the ATF apparently cared about me because they never called me. :(

Personally, I think the worries about multiple handgun sales (from a buyer's perspective) are way overblown.

jhood001
09-09-2013, 22:31
Personally, I think the worries about multiple handgun sales (from a buyer's perspective) are way overblown.

Maybe. Or perhaps the government knows you're just a mountain hermit and nothing to worry about! [Flower]

10mm-man
09-09-2013, 23:08
$60 instead of $10:) What can they do if you buy 3 at a time?


Nothing! Buy all you want...

asmo
09-09-2013, 23:28
I know the original question has been answered but I just want to add that if you trip the need to do an MSR (multiple sales report), then the serial numbers for those guns *are* recorded by the ATF and are forever linked to you. It is registration.

Search the forum for "asmotao msr" for more info.