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Bailey Guns
09-11-2013, 19:41
Excellent read.

Source (http://blogs.denverpost.com/thespot/2013/09/11/colorado-recalls-ppp-holds-off-on-posting-accurate-poll-showing-sen-giron-likely-to-be-recalled/100360/)


Here’s Jensen’s statement:
We did a poll last weekend in Colorado Senate District 3 and found that voters intended to recall Angela Giron by a 12 point margin, 54/42. In a district that Barack Obama won by almost 20 points I figured there was no way that could be right and made a rare decision not to release the poll. It turns out we should have had more faith in our numbers becaue she was indeed recalled by 12 points.

What’s interesting about our poll is that it didn’t find the gun control measures that drove the recall election to be that unpopular. Expanded background checks for gun buyers had 68/27 support among voters in the district, reflecting the overwhelming popularity for that we’ve found across the country. And voters were evenly divided on the law limiting high capacity ammunition magazines to 15 bullets, with 47% supporting and 47% opposing it. If voters were really making their recall votes based on those two laws, that doesn’t point to recalling Giron by a 12 point margin.

We did find on the poll though that voters in the district had a favorable opinion of the NRA by a 53/33 margin. And I think when you see the final results what that indicates is they just did a good job of turning the election more broadly into do you support gun rights or are you opposed to them. If voters made their decision based on the actual pretty unobtrusive laws that Giron helped get passed, she likely would have survived. But the NRA won the messaging game and turned it into something bigger than it was- even if that wasn’t true- and Giron paid the price.

John Hickenlooper won the district overwhelmingly in 2010 but is only tied at 42 with Tom Tancredo in a hypothetical match up there (emphasis mine), so it’s something Democrats will have to figure out how to deal with before next year.

buffalobo
09-11-2013, 19:55
I think he still missed the point.

The recall was about the arrogance and condescension shown to the constituency by the legislature.

The gun bills were the issue that drove the people to act.

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

merl
09-11-2013, 20:06
unobtrusive laws? WTF is he smoking?

They have banned me from buying a fucking box with a spring in it (for certain sizes of box) and told me I cannot even sell my boxes I already own.

This was not about the NRA messaging. This was about people being pissed off because our reps passed laws we did not send them to Denver to pass. Laws we clearly told them were not what we wanted.

Zundfolge
09-11-2013, 20:55
I'm glad they didn't believe their own poll ... if they had and they'd made it public the Dems would have just stepped up their cheating efforts down there too and maybe we'd still have ole Ang.


Hubris ... fun to watch.

Jeffrey Lebowski
09-11-2013, 21:07
And I think when you see the final results what that indicates is they just did a good job of turning the election more broadly into do you support gun rights or are you opposed to them. If voters made their decision based on the actual pretty unobtrusive laws that Giron helped get passed, she likely would have survived. But the NRA won the messaging game and turned it into something bigger than it was- even if that wasn’t true- and Giron paid the price.

Disagree on the unobtrusive part, but I hope this messaging still works and we can still use it come 2014.