View Full Version : The Future of Colorado in light of the recalls
Zundfolge
09-16-2013, 19:51
I noticed that the We're Done with Colorado (http://www.ar-15.co/threads/92825-We-re-Done-with-Colorado) thread popped back up with responses that kinda make it look like the recalls may have changed some people's minds about the future and direction of our beloved Colorado.
So I though I'd make another goddamn poll and see what happened. [panic]
We'll see what happens next fall. Also, who knows what they will try to pass hear on the state level with the recent incident in DC.
recalls: minor speed bump until the next schoolyard shooting comes along. It was nice to see occur, I donated in hopes of ousting those that got tossed and am glad it played out as it did but I don't think the trajectory of the state, overall, has changed a bit.
muddywings
09-16-2013, 20:01
i think the big test is the governor's race with some of the minor reps and senators who are in swing districts. The die hard libs in the urban areas are something that I just don't see moving and that will be problematic for a long time.
It is way too early to tell where we are going as a state yet. We all still have a good feeling because of the recall and it will be talked about for decades to come when the gun issue comes up but i will not be optimistic until the laws get repealed.
It was nice to recall those two bozos but it is a minor blip. The new register when you vote law means the dimocrats can win just about any election they want. There is no such thing as a safely Conservative district any more. All the sheriffs that are fighting the new gun laws are toast. All the libs have to do is bus in a bunch of voters. In rural areas it won't take many votes to swing rural elections over to the liberal candidates. Holder will be here in an instant if anything is done to keep outsiders from voting.
It's time to party like it's 1999. So to speak.
I think it is too early to tell, I was always hopeful for the recalls, but I have always said next years elections will tell the tale.
I don't think things will change much.. What I fear is the Reps getting in a drug out fight in the Gov primaries rather than rally around a single guy. Hick should be beatable but the Reps have shown that they are fully capable of throwing a race.
trlcavscout
09-16-2013, 20:50
Hick is a typical jack ass and I don't doubt he will continue to shank us
DavieD55
09-16-2013, 21:44
If any two of the following occur in Colorado politics. I will be outa here.
1. If the Colorado Supreme Court continues to rule in favor of leftists
2. If we end up with hickenfluffer again
3. If we end up with a majority of leftists in both bodies of the state legislature
stoner01
09-16-2013, 21:51
I think the recalls opened up a lot of people eyes. Im seeing more pro2A chatter than in recent times and also more "Less Government" chatter as well. Maybe its just more of the same folks, I cant be sure but it gives me a sliver of hope. We need to put more candidates who are pro freedom and for personal responsibility in the legislatures.
buffalobo
09-16-2013, 21:53
Too far down the path. Will hang to see results of 2014 elections. If no major swing back to liberty and individual freedom then I will be down the road.
I am pessimistic and have started some planning to relocate.
Jeffrey Lebowski
09-16-2013, 22:00
I agree with so many of you here (and with the majority of the poll). I hate to make a "me too" post - but me too on having to see how 2014 goes.
I think the democrats will get even dirtier.
I think the republicans will continue the infighting.
But I do hope the masses have opened their eyes. I'm hoping some of these "progressive" plans - like Obamacare, and the Syria BS, and constant scandals wakes some folks up for the next couple of election cycles.
Bailey Guns
09-17-2013, 11:36
I voted "slightly more cautiously optimistic".
The recalls were truly a breath of fresh air but they don't change the demographics at all. You still have about a 32/32/36 (roughly) split between Dem/Rep/Uaf voters. Generally, in statewide elections, Dems will vote for Dems because they're mindless and can only make decisions based on emotion. Reps (specifically conservative types) will piss and moan that the Rep nominee isn't conservative enough and either not vote or vote Libertarian in protest because the Rep nominee isn't perfect. Uaf voters seem to be pretty evenly split between left and right. Libertarians just want to prove a point they'll never be able to prove by voting for a party of perennial losers due to their dogmatic idealism.
Maybe "slightly more cautiously optimistic" is a stretch.
Geology Rocks
09-17-2013, 11:50
I hope things change. If not my wife and I have talked about Vermont or NH.
I'm holding out until the next election cycle before I make a decision. I contributed to the recall efforts, but in no way am I taking those victories to mean anything has changed on the statewide scale. My county already votes in line with my values. If the state decides that they want to continue to run to the left, I'll probably be leaving.
I think BG is on the money. That's how Morse got elected and how Clinton got elected without a majority, twice. 3rd party splits the R vote and the D gets handed the win. The Republicans have been truly uninspiring for over a decade. Nominating Dole because 'it was his turn', McCain the RINO that co-authored I don't know how many bills with Ted Kennedy, and Romney the guy that conservative Christians just can't seem to pull the lever for...that's not what conservatives are really looking for. The resistance to the Tea Party idealism by the GOP indicates to me how their interests seem to be more about maintaining power than doing what's right.
I didn't vote. I didn't see an option for still being cautiously optimistic and not swayed by the recall efforts.
I think the future of this state will greatly depend on the School Finance Referendum. If this passes, it is a clear indicator that Colorado is moving to a socialist state on its way to becoming little California.
I think a big part of the problem is more than 50% of the electorate doesn't vote. People are so consumed in their personal lives they have little regard or time for civic duty. I can't tell you how many folks I came across collecting signatures that appeared apathetic, without a mail-in ballot I they probably wouldn't vote at all. Many were supportive, but too many are uninformed or self absorbed. We need to get the word out...get involved and help in some youth shooting sports, invite a coworker, something.
I am hoping the potheads see how they are getting bent over by the people they voted in and swing the other way. Now is a really good chance for the GOP to align weed with alcohol, work together on ways to stay safe using it, keep it out of schools, and really get some votes. They can have their weed, I want my pmags back.
RblDiver
09-17-2013, 16:10
More cautiously optimistic, but I'll still be supporting the North Colorado initiative.
I am hoping the potheads see how they are getting bent over by the people they voted in and swing the other way. Now is a really good chance for the GOP to align weed with alcohol, work together on ways to stay safe using it, keep it out of schools, and really get some votes. They can have their weed, I want my pmags back.
Or at least hope they are too stoned to get out to vote for the Dems..
DavieD55
09-20-2013, 00:05
I think the future of this state will greatly depend on the School Finance Referendum. If this passes, it is a clear indicator that Colorado is moving to a socialist state on its way to becoming little California.
+1
Great-Kazoo
09-20-2013, 00:18
I hope things change. If not my wife and I have talked about Vermont or NH.
With the fleeing liberals, who support TAXING everyone, but doing their damnest to avoid paying it them self. From MA & NY, neither state is safe.
More cautiously optimistic, but I'll still be supporting the North Colorado initiative.
Likewise & THANK YOU for supporting the movement.
Slightly less pessimistic isn't a choice, so I can't vote.
The second choice implies some level of optimism.
O2
kawiracer14
09-20-2013, 10:57
With the fleeing liberals, who support TAXING everyone, but doing their damnest to avoid paying it them self. From MA & NY, neither state is safe.
Likewise & THANK YOU for supporting the movement.
I assume you're kidding about NH - which is continually getting further and further left. Yes there is that libertarian movement ... but that has gone pretty much no where. Utah or Tx might be a better bet.
I'm slightly more less cautiously optimistic pessimistic than I was before.
...the fleeing liberals.... From MA & NY.
I assume you're kidding about NH - which is continually getting further and further left. Yes there is that libertarian movement ... but that has gone pretty much no where. Utah or Tx might be a better bet.
I believe Jim is referring to the libs fleeing from NY/MA to NH & VT.
Bailey Guns
09-20-2013, 12:38
Utah or Tx might be a better bet.
Just curious why people still seem to think TX is a conservative stronghold?
sellersm
09-20-2013, 12:40
Just curious why people still seem to think TX is a conservative stronghold?
Me too. It's the next 'target' of the lib machine.
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Until I see who actually gets put up by the R side in this state I'm remaining pessimistic. I'm expecting some nice safe social conservatives that wont appeal to L or disgruntled D at all.
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