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sellersm
09-22-2013, 18:47
Anyone know if this is true?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/dc-capitol-swat-team-that-was-ordered-not-to-neutralize-navy-yard-shooter-still-not-debriefed-and-pd-removes-leader-without-explanation/


On Wednesday, BBC News reported the indefensible discovery that the D.C. Capitol Police’s SWAT team was ready to neutralize the Navy Yard mass shooting. But, the highly trained and heavily armed, elite tactical group was, instead, ordered to stand down and leave the scene (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/09/capitol-pd-tactical-response-team-may-have-been-ready-to-neutralize-navy-yard-mass-shooting-instead-ordered-to-leave-scene/). The Capitol Police promised a full investigation. Today, BBC News reported more disturbing information. No one has talked to the SWAT team members. Not even for the protocol debriefing. But, not only have members of the SWAT team not been contacted, the department “has installed a new leader”. Without explanation.BBC News reports (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24163244),

Members of a Washington DC Swat team who the BBC has learned were ordered not to respond to Monday’s Navy Yard shootings have yet to be contacted by the authorities.
The Capitol Police tactical response team was told by a supervisor to leave the scene instead of aiding municipal officers, sources told the BBC.
Meanwhile, the department has installed a new leader of the elite unit. No reason has been given for the decision.
Gunman Aaron Alexis killed 12 people.
The BBC has also learned that four members of the highly trained team have applied for temporary leave, as they “grapple” with the aftermath of the incident.
The Capitol Police department has not yet granted the request, nor given approval for them to use their own paid time off.
Command shake-up
Days after the shooting, none of the officers has been questioned by officials or investigators from a special panel that was convened on Wednesday.
Members of the Containment and Emergency Response Team (Cert) are typically debriefed “right away, at the very least the following day” after an incident, a Capitol Police source said.
“[They] haven’t even been given the courtesy of a debrief… They have not even been given an answer as to why the decision was made that they should not respond,” the source added.
Another Capitol Police source close to the incident told the BBC: “No-one’s talked to these officers since this happened.”
This is unreal! Did these bureaucrats take the playbook from Benghazi?

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def90
09-22-2013, 18:58
I've read this in msm and it was a group of DC capitol police not swat specifically from what I remember. The reason for the stand.down was to get swat involved. There was a recent paper put out by a LEO that studied mass shootings and basically stated that current protocol is to wait for a team of 3 or more officers to assemble before entering when in reality as soon as any officer gets on scene they should enter and confront the shooter as most of these guys commit suicide when that happens.

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cstone
09-22-2013, 21:27
Washington DC has numerous police departments. MPDC is the city police department. The US Capitol has the Capitol Police Department. The US Park Police is a part of the Dept of Interior and they have a sizeable police department that includes the only helicopters in the District. There are many other police departments, including the Sup Court, National Zoological Police, US Secret Service Uniformed Division, FBI Police Department, Amtrak Police, Federal Protective Service, etc...

The first MPDC units to arrive were met by the Capitol Police Emergency Response Team (ERT). MPDC asked the Capitol ERT for assistance and the Capitol Police on duty Watch Commander ordered his ERT to stand down. There are no guarantees that ERT would have made any difference, but then again, earlier response may have made a difference. There is just no way of knowing what would have happened after the fact.

DC is a strange place to work.

Gman
09-23-2013, 01:26
Federal government efficiency on display.

stoner01
09-23-2013, 01:52
Thus again proving what a cluster fuck DC is.

Zundfolge
09-23-2013, 08:48
[tinfoil hat]The higher the body count the better chance you have to pass the precious gun control laws you want.[/tinfoil hat]

SA Friday
09-23-2013, 08:55
Washington DC has numerous police departments. MPDC is the city police department. The US Capitol has the Capitol Police Department. The US Park Police is a part of the Dept of Interior and they have a sizeable police department that includes the only helicopters in the District. There are many other police departments, including the Sup Court, National Zoological Police, US Secret Service Uniformed Division, FBI Police Department, Amtrak Police, Federal Protective Service, etc...

The first MPDC units to arrive were met by the Capitol Police Emergency Response Team (ERT). MPDC asked the Capitol ERT for assistance and the Capitol Police on duty Watch Commander ordered his ERT to stand down. There are no guarantees that ERT would have made any difference, but then again, earlier response may have made a difference. There is just no way of knowing what would have happened after the fact.

DC is a horrible, inefficient, unforgivable, racist, uncooperative, sadistic place to work.

Fixed it for ya.

cstone
09-23-2013, 17:53
DC is a nice place to visit. When something bad happens I just remind myself that I don't live there anymore. [Coffee]

nynco
09-23-2013, 18:20
I lived in DC and left that area for Colorado... thank god

kejam
09-24-2013, 02:13
Current protocol is the first LEO on scene enters and engages ...... waiting for SWAT is the old protocol. The unfortunate events which took place in our schools in the past brought that change on. ...................... thats Colorado protocol anyway.

davsel
09-24-2013, 04:13
FWIW
An article I read (can't find it now) said the Capitol Police team happened to be in the area for training, and arrived quickly. The team called in to their supervisors to ask if they should assist. They were then pulled off to guard the capitol buildings they are assigned to because their supervisors were afraid of a possible large scale attack.