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james_bond_007
09-26-2013, 14:49
Disclaimer: Yes, I've searched this forum, the general internet (as Google sees it), and a few other forums. I've come up dry.
I've seen a lot of info on what was done recently, history of the use of EO, etc. but ...


Background: While researching these 2 new executive orders related to guns, I've learned that:
1) Only 2 executive orders have ever been overturned
2) EOs are supposed to be issued to help the executive branch manage operations by clarifying gray areas
3) EOs were not intended to be used to establish new laws or extend existing laws
4) EOs were not intended to further a law (or extend it to be something it is not)
5) The new EOs have most likely exceeded the intent and spirit of presidential discretionary power
6) Sometimes congress can effectively nullify an EO by not passing legislation to assist in funding an EO
7) Only congress can "make" new laws


QUESTION:
Has anyone heard/seen of any organization(s) or persons that are actively trying to challenge and repeal these orders ?

asmo
09-26-2013, 16:45
EO's, under the last 4 president's interpretations, have come to have the full force and effect of laws -- so sayeth the last couple of AGs. They get around the actual law-making ability by directing executive branch organizations (DOJ, IRS, EPA, etc) to enact new 'rulings'. Congress has permitted these executive branch rulings to carry the weight of law because of how Congress has written the actual laws - in many cases saying "blah..blah..blah.. as to be determined by the Attorney General of the United States..". Basically abdicating thier power to someone else because they (Congress) refuse to make a decision but have to 'do something'.

For an education on how the courts see it go look at any of the last 100 or so challenges to EPA 'laws' that have been enacted. EPA: 100 Plantiff: 0

Great-Kazoo
09-26-2013, 23:17
I think Dudley's doing a raffle.

buffalobo
09-27-2013, 00:04
^^^This deserves the bump.

That some funny shit there.:thumbup:

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

james_bond_007
09-27-2013, 07:48
Certainly deserves a rimshot !!!

34483

hatidua
09-27-2013, 09:54
I think Dudley's doing a raffle.

[Wow1]

Brian
09-27-2013, 12:42
I think Dudley's doing a raffle.

LOL.