I was wondering when someone will say this...

[UrbanWolf]

Quote from Article---
"Talking to American friends, I always sense a kind of despair that the gun lobby
is too powerful to challenge and that nothing will ever change. The same
resignation was evident in President Obama's rather lifeless reaction to the
Washington shooting last week. There is absolutely nothing he can do, which
underscores the fact that America is in a jam and that international pressure
may be one way of reducing the slaughter over the next generation. This has
reached the point where it has ceased to be a domestic issue. The world cannot
stand idly by."

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/21/american-gun-out-control-porter?commentpage=1

[BushMasterBoy]

Obama could authorize military personnel to CCW while at work for a start. His signature could do that overnight.

[merl]

CC hell, they carry rifles but no ammo! Just gem em a (full) mag.

[UrbanWolf]

Obama could authorize military personnel to CCW while at work for a start. His signature could do that overnight.

Better give him a Snickers, he abuses EO when he is hungry.

[hatidua]

The article, and especially the comments, make me want to pick up the phone and donate yet more money to the NRA.

[ZERO THEORY]

"Although it was brave of Howard Schultz, the company's chief executive, to go even this far in a country where people are better armed and only slightly less nervy than rebel fighters in Syria"

Stopped reading here.

[cstone]

Didn't we stop taking directions from the English a couple hundred years ago? International problem? I'd think the Brits would have learned their lesson the last time they tried to take our guns.

[theGinsue]

Apparently they're still a little bitter about that Chuck.


which underscores the fact that America is in a jam and that international pressure may be one way of reducing the slaughter over the next generation.
First, apparently that writer knows nothing about the American spirit. We don't take too kindly to outsiders meddling in our affairs. I fact, if Americans wanted the opinions and meddling from the Brits we'd have a puckered old tart they like to call "Queen" on our currency.

Secondly, The "slaughters" occur when honest law-abiding citizens are stripped of our Rights to protect ourselves by the over-reach of our local, state, and Federal governments. The true slaughters occur in nations around the world where their citizens have no right to possess firearms to protect themselves.


This has reached the point where it has ceased to be a domestic issue.
When American citizens abuse their God-given Rights to commit violence with firearms OUTSIDE of our borders, then they can claim it's no longer a domestic issue. Until such time, I recommend they shut up & color.


The world cannot stand idly by."Oh, I think it best for everyone if that's exactly what they continue to do; else MOLON LABE!

[spqrzilla]

I'm saving aluminum cans. When I get enough, I'm buying airfare to London. I got two asses to kick there, and his is #2.

[DavieD55]

Apparently they're still a little bitter about that Chuck.


First, apparently that writer knows nothing about the American spirit. We don't take too kindly to outsiders meddling in our affairs. I fact, if Americans wanted the opinions and meddling from the Brits we'd have a puckered old tart they like to call "Queen" on our currency.

Secondly, The "slaughters" occur when honest law-abiding citizens are stripped of our Rights to protect ourselves by the over-reach of our local, state, and Federal governments. The true slaughters occur in nations around the world where their citizens have no right to possess firearms to protect themselves.


When American citizens abuse their God-given Rights to commit violence with firearms OUTSIDE of our borders, then they can claim it's no longer a domestic issue. Until such time, I recommend they shut up & color.

Oh, I think it best for everyone if that's exactly what they continue to do; else MOLON LABE! X2

[buffalobo]

I'm saving aluminum cans. When I get enough, I'm buying airfare to London. I got two asses to kick there, and his is #2.

Are you gonna beat up the queen? Post pics. Most Brits are bitches anyway.

Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

[crays]

I'm saving aluminum cans. When I get enough, I'm buying airfare to London. I got two asses to kick there, and his is #2.

You can start right here at home...think Piers Morgan. That douchebag thinks he has the right to shit on US citizens, and doesn't even realize he's a GUEST here.

[buffalobo]

Made it to "despite conclusive evidence that people become less safe as gun ownership rises" and that pushed passed my BS limit.

Stupid, inaccurate and ridiculous article.

Foreigners are welcome to try most anytime. Most of us need the practice.





Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I think I lost 50 IQ points reading that editorial and the retards commenting on it.

[DavieD55]

He really should be more concerned with the way his own country is going.

[brutal]

Made it to "despite conclusive evidence that people become less safe as gun ownership rises" and that pushed passed my BS limit.

Stupid, inaccurate and ridiculous article.

Foreigners are welcome to try most anytime. Most of us need the practice.





Sent from my electronic ball and chain.

That was the bit I was going to quote until I saw your comment.

Utter bullshit fail.

[theGinsue]

Their drinking their own Kool-Aid.

[KS63]

Not going to bother to read the article. It's Friday and I don't want to ruin it.....

[merl]

Their drinking their own Kool-Aid.

Well I suppose they are past the denial and anger stages and stuck in acceptance...

Good summary of the ban:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=9127844&postcount=51

[Zundfolge]

It cracks me up how liberals and antis all look at the NRA and other gun rights supporters as some sort of "small but wealthy cabal looking out for the profits of the firearms industry at the expense of innocent lives".

I don't have the figures in front of me but a few years ago I dug into the money behind the firearms industry and what I came up with was kind of amazing. At that time (I'm sure they're doing better now with the last few rounds of panic buying) the ENTIRE US Firearms Industry brought in about $2 Billion a year. That's all of the gun companies combined. At that time McDonalds had revenues over $12 Billion.

So somehow an entire industry that only brings in 1/6th what ONE major fast food chain brings in is able to fund a super rich bunch of lobbyists to warp policy to increase their vast riches ... all while busy competing with each other I might add.

The simple truth is that the "Gun Lobby" is not out there protecting the interests of wealthy industrialists, they're the true voice of the grass roots ... the people.



Now, as for Piers Morgan ... I say we fly Jeremy Clarkson over, get him a bottle of Scotch and a cricket bat and sneak him into Piers' apartment.

http://www.heypiers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Tweet21.jpg

[wctriumph]

Secondly, The "slaughters" occur when honest law-abiding citizens are stripped of our Rights to protect ourselves by the over-reach of our local, state, and Federal governments. The true slaughters occur in nations around the world where their citizens have no right to possess firearms to protect themselves.

You mean like the English soldier that had his head cut off in broad daylight and he could not defend himself and that only thing onlookers could do was video the attack?

[Circuits]

"More Americans lost their lives from firearms in the past 45 years than in all wars involving the US."

And ten times as many per year are killed in traffic accidents. Almost that number drown per year.

How many of those firearms deaths were justifiable homicides - e.g. private self-defense and justifiable or excusable police shootings?

[brutal]

"More Americans lost their lives from firearms in the past 45 years than in all wars involving the US."

And ten times as many per year are killed in traffic accidents. Almost that number drown per year.

How many of those firearms deaths were justifiable homicides - e.g. private self-defense and justifiable or excusable police shootings?




How many were in gun-free zones?

[TFOGGER]

Their drinking their own Kool-Aid.

Kool-aid...urine...whatevah...

[cofi]

Now, as for Piers Morgan ... I say we fly Jeremy Clarkson over, get him a bottle of Scotch and a cricket bat and sneak him into Piers' apartment.

http://www.heypiers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Tweet21.jpg

clarkson all ready punched him in the face


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfzu2ObrYzc

hes my hero! :D

[sniper7]

I would like to punch piers in the face.

[merl]

"More Americans lost their lives from firearms in the past 45 years than in all wars involving the US."

And ten times as many per year are killed in traffic accidents. Almost that number drown per year.

How many of those firearms deaths were justifiable homicides - e.g. private self-defense and justifiable or excusable police shootings?



And something like 8% of the people that have ever been alive since the beginning of time are alive right now so absolute numbers are meaningless.

[brutal]

I would like to punch piers in the face.

Cock punch. But it would be too difficult to hit it without good optics.

[Dave]

I was having an ok Friday until I read the article and comments. [Bang]

[sabot_round]

Pierce Morgan blows goats!!

[BigDee]

I was having an ok Friday until I read the article and comments. [Bang]

The comments are what put the article over the top. It amazes me how many people are so eager to disarm and send the entire human populace back into slavery.

[Danimal]

Well today was starting out to be a good day but now I am pissed. I looked outside and saw it was raining, and for a moment I was happy because I could put off mowing for another day. Then I jumped on here and read that whole article. I think that I am going to go outside and mow in the rain because I have a better chance of convincing wet grass to cut than I do talking a shred of sense into these ass hats.

[brutal]

Pierce Morgan blows goats!!

It is "Chugs Goat cocks"

[Tor Larson]

England...such a nice country with an innocent past.

Created how many 10s of millions of opium addicts in China by forcing China to accept opium instead of $$$ for trade- Opium Wars x2 in the 19th Century???? Ever heard of Hong Kong?
Enslaved India for how many years???
Imperialist colonies/slavery around the globe for how many centuries????? Still in N Ireland, Scotland, Wales BTW.
Prevented how many world wars???? Whoops, they helped instigate WW1 and did NOTHING to stop Hitler and WW2 from starting. Ask Czechoslovakia and Poland...not. Nothing like 50 million lives lost.
England has how many amendments in their Bill of Rights? Whoops, their toffee arsed subjects don't have a Bill of Rights!

Yeah, lets let England lead the rest of the world in interfering in our lives since they don't have any crime, no social problems, and really do a bang up job keeping the peace. Pathetic wankers still have a queen!!!

[theGinsue]

^^ That was funny stuff and dead-on balls accurate. You know, I like you.

[KestrelBike]

"Although it was brave of Howard Schultz, the company's chief executive, to go even this far in a country where people are better armed and only slightly less nervy than rebel fighters in Syria"

Stopped reading here.

You went farther than I did, Urbanwolf's snippet quoting that idiot left me zero desire to even open the page.

[spqrzilla]

Are you gonna beat up the queen? Post pics. Most Brits are bitches anyway.

Almost. A poncy little git named Charles Vasey. You wouldn't know him unless you were in the wargaming hobby.

[Great-Kazoo]

Almost. A poncy little git named Charles Vasey. You wouldn't know him unless you were in the wargaming hobby.

Git or poofta ?

[jerrymrc]

England...such a nice country with an innocent past.

Created how many 10s of millions of opium addicts in China by forcing China to accept opium instead of $$$ for trade- Opium Wars x2 in the 19th Century???? Ever heard of Hong Kong?
Enslaved India for how many years???
Imperialist colonies/slavery around the globe for how many centuries????? Still in N Ireland, Scotland, Wales BTW.
Prevented how many world wars???? Whoops, they helped instigate WW1 and did NOTHING to stop Hitler and WW2 from starting. Ask Czechoslovakia and Poland...not. Nothing like 50 million lives lost.
England has how many amendments in their Bill of Rights? Whoops, their toffee arsed subjects don't have a Bill of Rights!

Yeah, lets let England lead the rest of the world in interfering in our lives since they don't have any crime, no social problems, and really do a bang up job keeping the peace. Pathetic wankers still have a queen!!!

And then when they had a change of heart totally screwed the pooch......

[ZERO THEORY]

You know what really bums me out about Morgan? Hear me out, here. He's actually an intelligent guy.

He came onto the Opie & Anthony show years ago and did like 20 minutes or so on there. He was funny, well-informed, and genuinely interesting. Now, from the impression I got, he's not really stupid enough to believe any of the anti-rights drivel he spouts. So it really comes down to him taking money over principle and honesty. And to me, that's 100x worse than just being a drone.
Ignorance is a standard that we all have to free ourselves from, so there is still a tiny inkling of forgiveness for people who haven't yet become pragmatic enough to evaluate things reasonably; I was one of them once. But willful ignorance and/or intentionally selling a false ideal for personal gain at others' expenses is despicable.

[UrbanWolf]

Winning, lock it down.


England...such a nice country with an innocent past.

Created how many 10s of millions of opium addicts in China by forcing China to accept opium instead of $$$ for trade- Opium Wars x2 in the 19th Century???? Ever heard of Hong Kong?
Enslaved India for how many years???
Imperialist colonies/slavery around the globe for how many centuries????? Still in N Ireland, Scotland, Wales BTW.
Prevented how many world wars???? Whoops, they helped instigate WW1 and did NOTHING to stop Hitler and WW2 from starting. Ask Czechoslovakia and Poland...not. Nothing like 50 million lives lost.
England has how many amendments in their Bill of Rights? Whoops, their toffee arsed subjects don't have a Bill of Rights!

Yeah, lets let England lead the rest of the world in interfering in our lives since they don't have any crime, no social problems, and really do a bang up job keeping the peace. Pathetic wankers still have a queen!!!

[UrbanWolf]

You know what really bums me out about Morgan? Hear me out, here. He's actually an intelligent guy.

He came onto the Opie & Anthony show years ago and did like 20 minutes or so on there. He was funny, well-informed, and genuinely interesting. Now, from the impression I got, he's not really stupid enough to believe any of the anti-rights drivel he spouts. So it really comes down to him taking money over principle and honesty. And to me, that's 100x worse than just being a drone.
Ignorance is a standard that we all have to free ourselves from, so there is still a tiny inkling of forgiveness for people who haven't yet become pragmatic enough to evaluate thinks reasonably; I was one of them once. But willful ignorance and/or intentionally selling a false ideal for personal gain at others' expenses is despicable.

If he is doing this just for money's sake I don't know how a man can deal with that and sleep at night. Listen to him blaming AR-15 for Washington shipyard before official report made me sick in the stomach.