Get 'em while you can, boys and girls...

[elk_chase1]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1

[sniper7]

I will call and email my elected officials every fucking day about anything that comes up.

Fuck Holder and Fuck obama. We aren't going to make a ban to help out mexico. fuck them too.
Why should our rights and freedoms change because the fucking illegals are killing each other off.

Best thing we can do right now to stop unemployment in its track are deport every single illegal out of the country so American citizens can have more jobs available to them.

[Rant1][Rant2][Bang][Rant1][Rant2]

[ssf467]

I will call and email my elected officials every fucking day about anything that comes up.

Fuck Holder and Fuck obama. We aren't going to make a ban to help out mexico. fuck them too.
Why should our rights and freedoms change because the fucking illegals are killing each other off.

Best thing we can do right now to stop unemployment in its track are deport every single illegal out of the country so American citizens can have more jobs available to them.

[Rant1][Rant2][Bang][Rant1][Rant2]
Breath in deeply through the nose...... exhale through the mouth.........

[JustSomeDude]

Just read this. Glad we are instituting the AWB to protect Mexico. The logic these people use to get their way is mind boggling.

[AUSyTyIN]

Does anyone have the link to what guns were on the last ban list?

[sniper7]

Does anyone have the link to what guns were on the last ban list?


it doesn't matter. they will come up with whatever they can that isn't protected by heller. think semi auto, detachable magazines, anything that is military style or "cool" looking.

who knows what is meant by cop killer...that is anything.

[mightymouse]

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/pelosi-tosses-cold-water-on-reviving-assault-weapon-ban-2009-02-26.html

Pelosi tosses cold water on assault-weapon ban
By Mike Soraghan
Posted: 02/26/09 11:59 AM [ET]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tossed cold water on the prospect of reinstating the assault weapons ban, highlighting Democrats’ reluctance to take on gun issues.

Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.

“On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. “I think it's clear the Bush administration didn’t do that.”

Outside of the dig at the recent Republican president, that phrase is the stock line of those who don’t want to pass new gun control laws, such as the National Rifle Association.

The White House declined to comment on Holder's remarks, referring reporters to the Department of Justice. The DoJ did not respond to The Hill's request for comment.

[DOC]

I wouldn't trust them and neither should anyone else.

[jackmode9316]

Well, if nothing else at least I will sleep better knowing that we are doing our part by protecting mexico. [Bang]

[AUSyTyIN]

it doesn't matter. they will come up with whatever they can that isn't protected by heller. think semi auto, detachable magazines, anything that is military style or "cool" looking.

who knows what is meant by cop killer...that is anything.

So I'm assuming M1 carbines & Garands will be on this list?[Bang]

[68Charger]

If I was giving them advise (but I am not in any position to do so), I would tell them the best way to get back at all those people that started stockpiling & purchasing "assault" weapons that are expected to be on a reinstated or new AWB would be to.... do nothing...

Publicly state that you're not intending to ban any of these things- then the prices would drop, and all that were hoping to profit (if they already hadn't) from buying these sorts of guns since the election would lose money...
[Bang]
Is that the reason they shouldn't do anything? of course not- but it may appeal to them at some level...

if they really wanted to go about it honestly, they'd attempt to repeal the 2nd amendment, rather than trying to get around it... (and in the process violating their oaths to uphold the constitution)

[sniper7]

So I'm assuming M1 carbines & Garands will be on this list?[Bang]


Most likely.

I am not sure how I feel about pelosi's comments given her background but hopefully she is right that the dems realized they lost a huge amount of their support and their power in the house and senate due to that single issue.

[Eow]

Relax, Obama won't take your guns away. See, he says so himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBHkMADXnOw

You can trust him, right?

[Marlin]

I wouldn't trust Him to walk the dog..

[Sled_Dog]

Well this SOB has just pissed me off till hell won't have it. And to that end gentlemen I'm getting involved. Here's what I've done in the past 48 hours:

Composed a letter to Mark Udall and Jared Polis, f*** sticks that they are, letting them know in no uncertain terms that Holders statements are outrageous and any legislation they vote on infringing our 2nd amendment rights are an attack upon the Bill of Rights itself and a violation of the consent of the Governed.

Started drafts to the legislative leaders with the same sentiment.

Joined the Gun Owners of america. (www.gunowners.org (http://www.gunowners.org))

Joined the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners (www.rmgo.org (http://www.rmgo.org))

I advise all like minded to get out in front of this NOW! Handwritten letters letting your reps know are better than anything. the RMGO has a link to find out who your reps are. Write them and tell them if they vote for an "assault weapons ban" or any other legislation infringing on our rights (use that term "our rights") you will do all in your power to defeat them in the next election.

Keep it civil, no tinfoil hat stuff. But now is the time folks, Mr. Holder Just gave us an opening. GET INVOLVED NOW WHILE THE IRON IS HOT! I'll have some sample letters up soon that we can all use, that is my mission this weekend.

[gnihcraes]

recently joined RMGO.org - also recently sent out several emails to the Judicial Committee on HB 1180 i think it was - about the CCW permits holders not going through background checks... got back several favorable responses. Which was more than expected.

kc.

[Sled_Dog]

Some folks believe that we shouldn't get our nickers in a twist over comments like Holder made. I disagree and applaud the actions SledDog is taking.

They say that over 80% of the U.S. is either Christian or possess Christian values and morals. With that said, just one man has created a stir in removing "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance. Just one man with an agenda.

Why do I mention that? Because the anti-gun movement is much large than one man and THEY have their nickers in a twist for their agenda. If we - the estimated 42 - 80 million gun owners of America (depending on the statistics you read) fail to get excited about preserving our Rights and getting involved, then we will lose by default.

Thanks for your actions SledDog! [Beer]

Well said sir. The first assault weapons ban was able to be imposed because of our inaction, and I am as guilty as anyone. I was unaware of it because I failed to keep myself informed. Never again.

The best example of why this is so dangerous is liberals or "progressives" use language like "assault weapons" and the vast majority of Americans think they are talking about automatic weapons, which we all know have been strictly regulated since 1934. "Progressives" manipulate through fear and defeatism and divisiveness in order to justify a giant Federal establishment, just like the Federalists of old.

I find this new crop much more dangerous than even the Clinton administration. They are nothing less than Marxist ideologues that wish to ensure their ability to control by using bureaucracy to strip us of our rights. Don't kid yourselves, collectivism is the goal of these people, they want us out in the rice fields side by side with our little pointy rice hats, and they as overlords. I believe that collectivism in all it's forms is evil. It is one of my core beliefs. Anybody who experienced the Cold War would know that. The problem is, there is now a whole generation now of voting age that have never seen the consequences of collectivism.

If they are so ideologically opposed to firearms as a "public safety issue," why do they not propose a constitutional amendment? Because they would lose. One of my personal heroes, Ronald Reagan, believed that personal firearms ownership was a tenant of anti-communism/collectivism. In spite of his own part in the 1986 NFA weapons bans, I agree with him, and so does most of this nation.

Even if Holder is just breaking wind, writing our officials now lets them know where we stand on this, and every time it comes up the legislature will back off from it like nutsy Pelosi and her congressional coconuts did this time. And we should remind them that their over-reaching is what lost them the majority in 1994. So it will be again.

I was also glad to see Wayne LaPierre finally get some fire in his rhetoric in response to this.

[Sled_Dog]

recently joined RMGO.org - also recently sent out several emails to the Judicial Committee on HB 1180 i think it was - about the CCW permits holders not going through background checks... got back several favorable responses. Which was more than expected.

kc.

Excellent.

[jason303]

Well this SOB has just pissed me off till hell won't have it. And to that end gentlemen I'm getting involved. Here's what I've done in the past 48 hours:

Composed a letter to Mark Udall and Jared Polis, f*** sticks that they are, letting them know in no uncertain terms that Holders statements are outrageous and any legislation they vote on infringing our 2nd amendment rights are an attack upon the Bill of Rights itself and a violation of the consent of the Governed.

Started drafts to the legislative leaders with the same sentiment.

Joined the Gun Owners of america. (www.gunowners.org (http://www.gunowners.org))

Joined the Rocky Mountain Gun Owners (www.rmgo.org (http://www.rmgo.org))

I advise all like minded to get out in front of this NOW! Handwritten letters letting your reps know are better than anything. the RMGO has a link to find out who your reps are. Write them and tell them if they vote for an "assault weapons ban" or any other legislation infringing on our rights (use that term "our rights") you will do all in your power to defeat them in the next election.

Keep it civil, no tinfoil hat stuff. But now is the time folks, Mr. Holder Just gave us an opening. GET INVOLVED NOW WHILE THE IRON IS HOT! I'll have some sample letters up soon that we can all use, that is my mission this weekend.


Bookmarked immdiately. Thanks Sled Dog. As for your follow-up two posts back on this thread, you're right on target.

[jason303]

Don't kid yourselves, they're after a reenactment of the AWB. The recent dramatic coverage of Mexican narcoterrorism is nothing more than the usual political scare tactics meant to put the impressionable masses into 'crisis-mode' thinking and get legislation passed quickly before too much critical debate occurs. Google mexican gun smuggling and read the articles published by the media and see how many times you see crap like this:

(referring to firearms seized from criminals in Mexico) "These guns, though, are a fraction of the high-powered weaponry purchased legally or illegally in stores and at gun shows in Texas, Arizona, and California and smuggled by the thousands into Mexico." -Christian Science Monitor

I don't know how many times you've walked into a gun store or approached a table at a show and they said ok when you asked to buy a firearm with no paperwork, cash transaction, and no questions asked. Me, and everyone I know? Yeah, not ever!

This link they're making between law-abiding citizens under the protection of our constitution and these drug dealing criminals is completely false and also par for the course. The next step is a big event that brings the fear home to the masses. I predict an upswing in coverage on the kick-in home invasions and kidnappings in Phoenix.

And another thing. I'm not buying the notion that it's not cheaper and easier to traffic weapons up from South and Central America.

[Zundfolge]

The logic these people use to get their way is mind boggling.

Yep, can't fail to take advantage of a good crisis ya know.