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bogie
10-02-2013, 13:10
Most of us here at the forum already know/agree with the title of this thread. The article makes a good case of the lack of his compromise from the start.


President Obama, as much as House Republicans, shut down the government. He is not willing to compromise on just about any issue, leaving the GOP with no other options.In 2008, Obama won 53 percent of the popular vote and commanding Democratic majorities in congress.
Faced with an economic crisis and carrying a mandate to accomplish universal access to health insurance, Obama was justified to take bold actions. However, as the leader of a democracy, he had the obligation to weight the views of the 47 percent who voted for Senator McCain and forge consensus where possible.

The president’s refusal to accept any changes in the ACA and special treatment for politicians is tyranny.
Yet, over Republican objections, the president abused a fund established to aid troubled banks to bail out GM and Chrysler. To reward autoworkers for campaign support, he confiscated private property by awarding 55 percent of the stock to the union health care trust instead of Chrysler’s creditors as U.S. bankruptcy law requires.
He rewarded Wall Street bankers who supported his campaign with new lending regulations that help them acquire regional banks.
Now, more than half of the nation’s deposits are concentrated among a handful of Manhattan casinos, middle class Americans can’t get decent rates on savings, and small businesses can’t get adequate credit.
Obama imposed other regulations in manufacturing and energy production that reward his constituents, punishing his opponents and slowing growth in an economy increasingly challenged to create enough well-paying jobs.
Prior to the Affordable Care Act, every major piece of social legislation was accomplished by seeking a bipartisan consensus.
Instead, Democratic leaders Pelosi and Reid wholly excluded Republicans from deliberations, and created an unpopular system that compels businesses to purchase health insurance for employees, and individuals lacking employer polices to purchase plans through government-run exchanges.
Through town meetings, polls and a senate election in Massachusetts, Americans expressed opposition. Yet, Democratic leaders packaged the final legislation into a budget reconciliation bill, avoiding the need to win any GOP votes in the Senate—an unprecedented maneuver for such a major piece of legislation.
The individual mandate also raised serious constitutional challenges, but Obama proceeded to warn Chief Justice Roberts not to mess with his law at the 2012 State of the Union Address. Caving to pressure, Roberts wrote a decision whose legal reasoning few ideologically neutral legal scholars could approve.
Micromanaging one-sixth of the U.S. economy is proving to be a nightmare. Facing huge rate increases and burdensome regulations, businesses are dropping insurance coverage Obama promised ordinary Americans they would be able to keep.
In 2010, Republicans won control of the House on a platform to curb spending and repeal ACA. Obama’s 2012 reelection was hardly a mandate to implement the law without substantial changes, because Republicans again won the House on promises to repeal the law.
Congressional Republicans behaved badly—demanding wholesale repeal of the law, when they simply don’t have the votes in the Senate and Obama is still president.
However, in the more recent effort to craft a continuing resolution to keep the government funded, they have indicated significant willingness to deliver what Americans expect—compromise.
Asking the president to postpone the individual mandate one year, as he has done for the employer mandate, and requiring the Congress to obtain their health insurance on the same terms the ACA requires for ordinary Americans are quite reasonable. The president’s refusal to accept any changes in the ACA and special treatment for politicians is tyranny.
Terms Republicans have laid down for raising the debt ceiling—more development of offshore oil, rethinking financial reform and changes to other regulatory policies—are broadly consistent with the public sentiment for a focus on jobs creation.
If the debt ceiling is not raised by October 17, the United States need not default on its debt as the president threatens.
The Treasury continues to collect taxes, and the president will simply have to prioritize what bills he pays, what services he suspends, and place interest payments ahead of other items.
Realizing presidents shape the public dialogue in crises, he is pressuring House Republicans to deny their obligations to constituents lest he put on them the blame for a government shutdown and perhaps a default.
Peter Morici is an economist and professor at the Smith School of Business, University of Maryland, and widely published columnist. Follow him on Twitter @PMorici1 (http://twitter.com/PMorici1)http://global.fncstatic.com/static/v/all/img/external-link.png.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/01/obama-just-as-responsible-for-government-slimdown-as-republicans/

BPTactical
10-02-2013, 14:44
Yes he is, even moreso.
He has the OBLIGATION to bring together opposing sides and WORK to an acceptable out come.

Instead he stands in the corner, stomps his feet and says:"No I won't."

TFOGGER
10-02-2013, 15:03
There are 536 people in DC that are responsible for the shut down. the House, the Senate, and the President all share blame. If they hadn't waited for 3 F**KING YEARS to pass a budget (as REQUIRED BY LAW) then there would be no crisis. I say jail the lot, and elect replacements that KNOW they're going to be on a short leash.

Aloha_Shooter
10-02-2013, 15:06
I'll go one further. Obama is SOLELY responsible for the current "slimdown" crisis as his intransigence on a single point is what barred funding the rest of government operations. Beyond that, he has intentionally created unnecessary pain by closing parks and monuments and facilities that didn't need or use any federal funding. The WW2 memorial is a 24-hour memorial with no gates. Obama had to SPEND MONEY to put up barricades to close it off. Heck, in 1995, all the closure signs were handprinted or quickly run off on computer printers. Yesterday, nice colorful preprinted signs were put up -- showing that they were preparing to shut down things weeks ago.

This entire "crisis" is artificial, created solely by Obama and Reid for political advantage.

Tinelement
10-02-2013, 15:19
Yes he is, even moreso.
He has the OBLIGATION to bring together opposing sides and WORK to an acceptable out come.

Instead he stands in the corner, stomps his feet and says:"No I won't."

Agreed.

Reminds me of a 3 yr old I am currently dealing with.

Zundfolge
10-02-2013, 15:59
I'll go one further. Obama is SOLELY responsible for the current "slimdown" crisis as his intransigence on a single point is what barred funding the rest of government operations.
I would argue that he shares the blame 50/50 with Harry Reid (and Reid is SOLELY responsible for the lack of a budget for 3 years).

Great-Kazoo
10-02-2013, 16:19
I blame it on the Creepy Ass crackers , Just Like Obama does ;)

Delfuego
10-02-2013, 17:54
There are 536 people in DC that are responsible for the shut down. the House, the Senate, and the President all share blame. If they hadn't waited for 3 F**KING YEARS to pass a budget (as REQUIRED BY LAW) then there would be no crisis. I say jail the lot, and elect replacements that KNOW they're going to be on a short leash.Well put. Plenty of blame to go around.

Jeffrey Lebowski
10-03-2013, 07:26
There are 536 people in DC that are responsible for the shut down. the House, the Senate, and the President all share blame. If they hadn't waited for 3 F**KING YEARS to pass a budget (as REQUIRED BY LAW) then there would be no crisis. I say jail the lot, and elect replacements that KNOW they're going to be on a short leash.

A liberal friend of mine is absolutely furious that the Republicans have this kind of leverage.
Boy, he sure hates being reminded of just how much debt King Obama has added which basically handed all that leverage right over to Boner and company.
"But it is not fair!!!" Well, if you hadn't spent like drunken liberals, there is NOTHING they could have done.



It isn't like these debt ceiling talks are predictable. They show up mysteriously, just like a tsunami.
Wait, what's that? They are predictable and regular? We did have a chance to negotiate?!?
Well then! [Roll1]

SamuraiCO
10-06-2013, 13:24
Odumbos last budget proposal did not get one vote from either party. Congress has passed a budget each year but dingy Harry has yet to bring one up for vote so they can play these political games. It they did pass one then in the reconciliation process they would have to give to get a budget to pass. They have been successful thus far with continuing resolutions.

Sorry I blame Dems 100%. Our side just needs to grow a pair and fight back.

I was watching the movie Lincoln last night and loved the hate and vitriol for the Conservative Republicans that were arguing in favor of the amendment to free all slaves. The Dems were the same then as they are now. Somewhere along the way our party lost it's pair and needs to punch back. Time for being nice guy is over.